-- Movies -- Vishnu V3.1 vs JB3

TurboSid · 07-20-2009, 12:23 PM

alex, u or i need to race frank to compare our jb3's and procedes

jpsimon · 07-20-2009, 12:28 PM

sorry don't feel like back reading. What's going to be different in the rematch with the tunes?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-20-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

sorry don't feel like back reading. What's going to be different in the rematch with the tunes?

Main difference will hopefully be Enrico getting a better start.

Same tuning wise. I think the JB3 car is going to match the boost level of the V3 this time around of 15-16psi. Also this time they will be on the same octane fuel, last race it was a bit different with 93 octane JB3 vs 94 octane V3. Not huge but it was like a 1 car difference on the run up to 155mph so could help.

Mike

jpsimon · 07-20-2009, 12:42 PM

my procede stage 3 map only hits 15.3psi BTW (well, even less since the procede software reads on the high side).

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I think the JB3 car is going to match the boost level of the V3 this time around of 15-16psi.

Mike

Big Tom · 07-20-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

sorry don't feel like back reading. What's going to be different in the rematch with the tunes?

I am going to race with the exact same setup as the last time.

Enritas butt dyno felt a big power increase with the new 1.4 map 7 before we raced, but didn´t really like the outcome.
So he will now change to 1.4 map 8 instead, with less IAT decay.

BTW: I am boosting 15.2 psi.

jpsimon · 07-20-2009, 01:04 PM

what max psi is run with map 8 on the juice box?

enrita · 07-20-2009, 01:15 PM

i will first race with the same map 7 and try to do a better launch. Than will do a couple with map 8 to see the differences. Pity the procede does not have the possibiliy to change maps with different PSI levels on the fly since it would be really interesting to see how both cars react with different PSI levels and almost same mods.

jpsimon · 07-20-2009, 01:18 PM

You can change the user torque / ign-correction settings on either map to your liking. So yes you can switch between lower/higher boost maps on the fly.

enrita · 07-20-2009, 06:16 PM

i know but its only 2 maps. I meant doing runs on maybe 11-13-14-15 psi etc. its just a curiousity , mean would be interesting to test that . With the laptop in the car i guess it would be possible.

OpenFlash · 07-20-2009, 06:29 PM

Is Big Tom also going to install catless dps like enrita? That alone is worth another 15-20whp over th catted dps he is running now.

Shiv

enrita · 07-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Why don't you send him a set?

jpsimon · 07-20-2009, 06:51 PM

What's your issue flashrunner? did you even read the thread? Big Tom and Enrita are good friends. No funny business.

Why do you keep putting Big Tom in quotes anyways?

StartupJunkie · 07-20-2009, 06:51 PM

I've had high-flow cats before (and do again in my exhaust), its a misnomer ... they should be branded "slightly better flowing" cats.

I got the cats to getting rid of the smell, but still wanting a deeper sound and some flow improvements.

I'm about to cut the cats out of my AE exhaust ... I'll dyno the before and after (with no other changes) to see what the real world difference (i'll post it in a new thread).

jpsimon · 07-20-2009, 06:54 PM

The secondary cats aren't as bad... catless downpipes vs. highflow catted downpipes is where there will be a bigger difference.

OpenFlash · 07-20-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

The secondary cats aren't as bad... catless downpipes vs. highflow catted downpipes is where there will be a bigger difference.

Yep exactly... Especially when the rest of the system is also catless, running at 15+psi of boost. Catless dps are a big advantage over catted dps.

Shiv

gqmd · 07-20-2009, 09:38 PM

I think they should swap cars (differnt drivers) next time around...

M_M · 07-20-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yep exactly... Especially when the rest of the system is also catless, running at 15+psi of boost. Catless dps are a big advantage over catted dps.

Shiv

I dont really think so. i did a couple of tests from 0-200km/h before/after catless by g-tech, same road, similar weather, and theres certainly no difference between them in terms of time.

enrita · 07-21-2009, 02:02 AM

We both have only 1 set of cats. Big Tom on Dps and i have the middle ones.
Guys please there is absolutely no history here , we just like to race and share videos to the community. It just happens we have different tunes, thats it. We would do exactly the same if we both have the same one... We are more battling on the fastest car not the best tune. :-)

Big Tom · 07-21-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Guys please there is absolutely no history here , we just like to race and share videos to the community. It just happens we have different tunes, thats it. We would do exactly the same if we both have the same one... We are more battling on the fastest car not the best tune. :-)

+1.

enrita · 07-23-2009, 05:53 PM

Rematch done! Thanks Big Tom had lots of fun !
Pity it was raining and traffic but we managed anyway hehe.
Amazing how our cars go exactly the same!
Videos will be posted soon!

Terrance28 · 07-23-2009, 06:06 PM

Videos now!!!

enrita · 07-23-2009, 06:13 PM

we were so lucky that we got a professional photographer/movie maker with us so we got a professional photo shoot for free and got videos which he will edit. going to take some time to get that done , but big tom videos will be posted soon .

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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	sorry don't feel like back reading. What's going to be different in the rematch with the tunes?
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	what max psi is run with map 8 on the juice box?
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07-20-2009, 01:15 PM	#117
enrita Major General 163 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	i will first race with the same map 7 and try to do a better launch. Than will do a couple with map 8 to see the differences. Pity the procede does not have the possibiliy to change maps with different PSI levels on the fly since it would be really interesting to see how both cars react with different PSI levels and almost same mods. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	You can change the user torque / ign-correction settings on either map to your liking. So yes you can switch between lower/higher boost maps on the fly.
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07-20-2009, 06:16 PM	#119
enrita Major General 163 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	i know but its only 2 maps. I meant doing runs on maybe 11-13-14-15 psi etc. its just a curiousity , mean would be interesting to test that . With the laptop in the car i guess it would be possible. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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enrita Major General 163 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Why don't you send him a set? __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	What's your issue flashrunner? did you even read the thread? Big Tom and Enrita are good friends. No funny business. Why do you keep putting Big Tom in quotes anyways?
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StartupJunkie First Lieutenant 33 Rep 314 Posts Drives: 07 BMW 335i Sedan+2 Baby Seats Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SF South Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	I've had high-flow cats before (and do again in my exhaust), its a misnomer ... they should be branded "slightly better flowing" cats. I got the cats to getting rid of the smell, but still wanting a deeper sound and some flow improvements. I'm about to cut the cats out of my AE exhaust ... I'll dyno the before and after (with no other changes) to see what the real world difference (i'll post it in a new thread). __________________ 11.535@124.423mph (1.641 60') - AutoTune 7-27, Race+Meth, Best ET w/ only 80% throttle 1st and 2nd 11.647@121.356mph (1.590 60') - AutoTune (beta pre-5-15), Race Gas, No METH Perf Mods: Vishnu PROcede Rev3 v5, Vishnu PWM Meth Kit, AR Design DPs, AE Exhaust, Helix FMIC, Vishnu DCI, Forge DV, WaveTrac LSD (Best Trap - 124.665mph)
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07-20-2009, 06:54 PM	#124
jpsimon Team Zissou 3200 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	The secondary cats aren't as bad... catless downpipes vs. highflow catted downpipes is where there will be a bigger difference.
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07-21-2009, 02:02 AM	#128
enrita Major General 163 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	We both have only 1 set of cats. Big Tom on Dps and i have the middle ones. Guys please there is absolutely no history here , we just like to race and share videos to the community. It just happens we have different tunes, thats it. We would do exactly the same if we both have the same one... We are more battling on the fastest car not the best tune. :-) __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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enrita Major General 163 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Rematch done! Thanks Big Tom had lots of fun ! Pity it was raining and traffic but we managed anyway hehe. Amazing how our cars go exactly the same! Videos will be posted soon! __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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