Procede v4 CANbus love (pre-Beta maps/firmware available for private release)

jpsimon · 03-28-2010, 12:28 PM

you need to log actual ign. adv.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 03-28-2010, 01:50 PM

PCmike, your log files weren't in the zip folder or my computer wouldnt let me open them. From first glance it looks like you are a little too aggressive though.

Ironring Racing · 03-28-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I wont be able to post a wiring update until next week. Sorry.. out of time. And, upon request, we can add another bung to the meth elbow. It's not going to be a standard change since only a small minority of meth users will run nitrous as well.

Shiv

Bummer, I'll leave it out until you post the wiring mods. Hopefully early in the week please!

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Originally Posted by kenneth

True, without proper cooling tracking can be very frustrating and you will be going slower at the end of each session and power delivery inconsistent. And as Scalbert pointed out, 30 minute sessions would be too long for spraying meth.

Upgraded IC and additional OC helps in this regard.

I WISH! I've added a second oil cooler (AR Design + stock), the Helix FMIC, Vorsteiner vented CF hood, full catless UR/Supersprint DP's and exhaust, and I still hit high temp induced limp mode (154 C) within 8 or 9 laps (1:30min lap times).

Now without diff and trans coolers it's not like I'm expecting to run 2hr sessions, but I would at least like consistent performance across the 15 min. I've talked to a 135 race team in the US (I'm in Canada) and they went through exactly the same steps I did, and ended up with meth just to keep things cool on the track. Sure, if I want to the options is there for increased boost/timing for more power with meth, but at this point I'd just be happy with 15 min track sessions without overheating EVERY time. FYI, with the 6AT 335 I had before, that didn't even have the stock oil cooler (but did have the Sport package), and was completely stock very early 2007 model (no tune) I'd hit high temp limp within 5 laps every time. I was so disgusted that first track day with that car, I could have shot it right then and there.

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Well do the math guys. I am running a m10 nozzle and have a a 3quart little tank.
m10 flows 10 gallons an hour. 1.6 gallons ever 10 min of boost. So my little tanks lasts roughly 5 min of sustained boost. Which is nothing.

With the M7 nozzle and 1 gallon tank the Procede kit should provide just under 9 min of flow. Given 15min track sessions that should hopefully be about right, but you'll be filling it up every session.

That's what I'm hoping anyway! If I'm wrong in any of the above please correct me, it's my first time on meth!

Chefcg1 · 03-28-2010, 04:44 PM

Shiv, is there anyway to change the stock shift point? Say I have it is DS and just floor it and it shifts into the next gear at 6900rpm, but I would like it to do it at 6500rpm (as an example.)

AltecBX · 03-28-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chefcg1

okay I have confussed myself. what perameters should I be logging under channel setup? so for the question , but switching between 3 different laptops has me all screwed up.

Did you try doing this first. (v4 Datalogging Info)

adrean8j · 03-28-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironring Racing

Bummer, I'll leave it out until you post the wiring mods. Hopefully early in the week please!

I WISH! I've added a second oil cooler (AR Design + stock), the Helix FMIC, Vorsteiner vented CF hood, full catless UR/Supersprint DP's and exhaust, and I still hit high temp induced limp mode (154 C) within 8 or 9 laps (1:30min lap times).

Now without diff and trans coolers it's not like I'm expecting to run 2hr sessions, but I would at least like consistent performance across the 15 min. I've talked to a 135 race team in the US (I'm in Canada) and they went through exactly the same steps I did, and ended up with meth just to keep things cool on the track. Sure, if I want to the options is there for increased boost/timing for more power with meth, but at this point I'd just be happy with 15 min track sessions without overheating EVERY time. FYI, with the 6AT 335 I had before, that didn't even have the stock oil cooler (but did have the Sport package), and was completely stock very early 2007 model (no tune) I'd hit high temp limp within 5 laps every time. I was so disgusted that first track day with that car, I could have shot it right then and there.

With the M7 nozzle and 1 gallon tank the Procede kit should provide just under 9 min of flow. Given 15min track sessions that should hopefully be about right, but you'll be filling it up every session.

That's what I'm hoping anyway! If I'm wrong in any of the above please correct me, it's my first time on meth!

PROceded'd 135i, stock OC, stock FMIC, catless DP's track day in October ~80f absolutely ZERO limp modes (Road Atlanta)...must be a brutal track you are at...

dmurray14 · 03-28-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by adrean8j

PROceded'd 135i, stock OC, stock FMIC, catless DP's track day in October ~80f absolutely ZERO limp modes (Road Atlanta)...must be a brutal track you are at...

Agreed, I've banged out 25 min sessions as well.

maui86 · 03-29-2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Not until we get our 2010 DKG'd 135

Should only be a matter of 1-2 weeks now. Hopefully.

how do you order that? i dont see that transmission option on the site:-(

Chefcg1 · 03-29-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Did you try doing this first. (v4 Datalogging Info)

I have done that and CAN actual Ign ADV is not one of the channels that is set up. I guess that is what screwed me up.

Ferre86 · 03-29-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick.CBR

http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...ead.php?t=1040

That's what I did this morning before going to the dyno.

Nick

lol i have been looking for those along time, Thanks for the link once again

OpenFlash · 03-29-2010, 12:56 PM

Hope everyone had a great weekend. More maps/firmware coming either tomorrow or Wednesday.

JacksonHandy · 03-29-2010, 01:08 PM

Are these going to be a wider release? I missed out on the email, improving my marriage and all.....

shyestsparks · 03-29-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hope everyone had a great weekend. More maps/firmware coming either tomorrow or Wednesday.

Yes!

Ferre86 · 03-29-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hope everyone had a great weekend. More maps/firmware coming either tomorrow or Wednesday.

not a public realase right ?

Ironring Racing · 03-29-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adrean8j

PROceded'd 135i, stock OC, stock FMIC, catless DP's track day in October ~80f absolutely ZERO limp modes (Road Atlanta)...must be a brutal track you are at...

Yeah, with a 1/2 mile front straight and 1/4 mile back straight it basically means a 25-150mph (almost top speed run) PLUS a 1/4 mile run every 90 second lap! Again and again. It's really hard on brakes and generates a lot of heat.

Here's the 2 track maps to compare, keep in mind when you're comparing them, that RA is 2.4miles, Race City is 2.2miles, so almost exactly the same length, and yet look at the lengths of the straights between the 2.

scalbert · 03-29-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hope everyone had a great weekend. More maps/firmware coming either tomorrow or Wednesday.

Great, something to load up on my drive home from the airport on Thursday evening.

OT, does everyone in Virginia drive in the left lane? Geez, everyone was in the left lane down I-95 fron DC to Richmond today. </rant>

JoeyFiasco · 03-29-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Great, something to load up on my drive home from the airport on Thursday evening.

OT, does everyone in Virginia drive in the left lane? Geez, everyone was in the left lane down I-95 fron DC to Richmond today. </rant>

i got the same problem here, just sort of in reverse..

hopefully the new maps will be publicly released soon.

AltecBX · 03-29-2010, 07:45 PM

Same here. Just DCI and 93 oct.
Map1 - 30% UT 75% IC UP-Shift 45 (Smooth)
Map2 - 50% UT 50% IC UP-Shift 25 (Beast)

Runs great.

kentgbr · 03-29-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick.CBR

The car is awesome on my conservative 50% UT 75% IC with just DCI. Lovin' it!!

Nick

I'm not seeing how this could be considered conservative. Per Shiv's original post, 50% UT with the new settings puts you between the old stage 2 and stage 3 maps boost wise and you've lowered the IC value as well. Sounds pretty aggressive for a DCI only but if it's working well then great.

pcmike · 03-29-2010, 10:38 PM

Personally, I'm not sure I'm 100% in love with the updates. I've emailed Shiv my concerns, so I'll wait for his response before I comment.

Pseudo Nim · 03-29-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pcmike

Personally, I'm not sure I'm 100% in love with the updates. I've emailed Shiv my concerns, so I'll wait for his response before I comment.

Yeah great job with all the transparency there. :P

How about "I had an undetermined TOTAL ENGINE FAILURE with tune X, but I emailed person Y who makes it and I won't tell you guys anything about it until I hear back".

How about you post the above when you hear back?

Right now all you'll get will be "ZOMG PLS POST MOAR".

pcmike · 03-29-2010, 10:49 PM

I have my reason for posting what I did, don't worry about it. Some people.

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GeorgiaTech335coupe Lieutenant Colonel 81 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	PCmike, your log files weren't in the zip folder or my computer wouldnt let me open them. From first glance it looks like you are a little too aggressive though. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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Chefcg1 Major 72 Rep 1,137 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mount Airy, NC iTrader: (6)	Shiv, is there anyway to change the stock shift point? Say I have it is DS and just floor it and it shifts into the next gear at 6900rpm, but I would like it to do it at 6500rpm (as an example.) __________________ 2008 335i coupe AW 6AT, RB Turbos, PROcede 2.5 V5, Alpina Flash, Injen Intake, VK MW DP . Helix IC, Vishnu PnP Meth(M10 nozzel), M3 sides, OEM Aero Lip, VMR V710 Midnight Blue, LUX H8, HID Fogs, M3 front bits, D2 Coilovers, Whiteline Rear Bushing inserts, Custom M3 Steering Wheel, Cyba scoops, M2 Performance Exhaust
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