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      05-22-2011, 05:00 PM   #111
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Hate to but...I'm about to bite the bullet on some red 1156 CANBUS leds (44 LED towers) that I can use to replace the brake bulbs in my e90 LCI tail lights
WHY you might ask?? Answer: good question, mostly, because I can, I think it will be brighter, and with LEDs, they come on quicker, and in tests at highway speeds, it can give the person behind you a 25 foot decrease in stopping distance over halogens. That's the difference between a rear end...and not at all.
mind telling me where you found them?


also, can someone clarify what is in pre lci & lci's & e90 & e92?
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mind telling me where you found them?


also, can someone clarify what is in pre lci & lci's & e90 & e92?
Sure, no problem! I can't link to specific products on autolumination (their website really could use an upgrade) but you go to http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm and you want to just search the page for this exact phrase "44 High Powered Wide Angle SMT LEDS" (just without the quotes). I triple checked just to be 100% sure that this is the right type of bulb, and it seems like it is.

Now, I've decided to quasi-throw the Sylvania out the window. It's great for getting a general idea of bulbs, but it seems like they've got the 3 series all wrong. I think it doesn't fully understand the difference between the e9x models, and weather the car is LCI or not. But at any rate...the e90 LCI (and that's all I can speak for) uses 5 different bulbs/modules for brake lights:
The ceiling mounted brake light bar
4x P21W bulbs [2 per tail light] (aka a bulb with a BA15S base).

And just a tip, when buying LEDs, unlike halogen bulbs, it's better to get them color matched to your application; so if you wanted amber turn signals and your car has amber turn housings, you still want to buy amber leds, vs. a whitish halogen bulb. The color will be brighter. So you want to buy the red bulbs for your brake lights instead of the white ones.

And it's easy to tell what kind of bulb is in your housing. When you take off the bulb holders (those plastic blocks with metal contacts on it, really a brilliant idea on BMW's part) it has stamped into it, what kind of bulb it needs to be replaced with. I saw P21W on the block, just plugged P21W into google, and found out that it has a BA15s base. I then poked around on AutoLumination for the right bulb (they could use a search function...) and found these. They claim their 1156 base bulbs will replace a bevy of bulbs, including a P21W.

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hopefully more to come tonight after i get some time to build a test set
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hopefully more to come tonight after i get some time to build a test set
Nice! Good luck.
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Lux how are you making out?
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      05-25-2011, 11:35 AM   #117
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Got tied up the other night. got the aluminum cut and can hopefully build it tonight finally.
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Hate to but...I'm about to bite the bullet on some red 1156 CANBUS leds (44 LED towers) that I can use to replace the brake bulbs in my e90 LCI tail lights
WHY you might ask?? Answer: good question, mostly, because I can, I think it will be brighter, and with LEDs, they come on quicker, and in tests at highway speeds, it can give the person behind you a 25 foot decrease in stopping distance over halogens. That's the difference between a rear end...and not at all.
Yea as much as people think these upgrades are unnecessary there is a safety factor with LED. The human eye responds faster to LED because of their crisp on and off compared to a slow dimming halogen.
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Lux how are you making out?
Making good progress, built a test unit last night and it looks great. I'm in the process of moving and my camera was at the new house so i couldnt take pictures stay tuned
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Making good progress, built a test unit last night and it looks great. I'm in the process of moving and my camera was at the new house so i couldnt take pictures stay tuned
Sometimes I wish I had a different model that you so I could be your local beta test dummy for these projects but of course I had to purchase your exact car.

I'm looking forward to this project. I'm sure it'll be top notch like your other products and an easy decision on my wish list.
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installing my LEDs today hopefully!
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installing my LEDs today hopefully!
Good luck! Are you going to try using the 13 LED Ba9s bulbs in your rear fogs?? I mean, they're not red LEDs, but its worth a shot just to see if the brightness is even comparable to the halogen.
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Installed the 9 led tower for reverse bulbs.

Bought error free bulbs, but noticed that you can use ordinary bulbs as there's no errors.

Stock


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Sorry for the crap pics, Was taken with my phone. Both in direct sunlight


Also tried using these bulbs for the brake light.
Two 9 SMD Leds and they were nowhere near bright enough. Stock bulbs were much brighter.

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Good luck! Are you going to try using the 13 LED Ba9s bulbs in your rear fogs?? I mean, they're not red LEDs, but its worth a shot just to see if the brightness is even comparable to the halogen.
sorry didn't update...realized when i opened the package...they were just tire caps! haha sorry
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sorry didn't update...realized when i opened the package...they were just tire caps! haha sorry
Ah, I've heard rumors that tire caps don't have very good light output
I'm anxiously awaiting the pictures of LUX's prototype!
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Making good progress, built a test unit last night and it looks great. I'm in the process of moving and my camera was at the new house so i couldnt take pictures stay tuned
Any news
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I think he is getting together with his aluminum guy today or tomorrow to go over those details.
Witht the move, the angel eyes and everything else, he has probably beeen running crazy busy.
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any updates?
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After meeting with the metal machinist a small design change was made and he should have something next week.
Stay tuned, this is going to be good.
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