[Clap135]

Nope he claims to hit 115 on a bone stock car running 91 octane with only a tune

[Black Sheep]

Nice time Clap, I'll let you know what I can turn next week

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by Budz135i

Nice time Clap, I'll let you know what I can turn next week

Pretty much the same mods. Are you auto or manual?

[Black Sheep]

Manual, I'll have toyo R888's on, no runcraps

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by Clap135

You know what is funny about that video? Your times simply cannot be matched. Just to put things into perspective for you. In the 5 years the n54 has been out, not 1 person has cracked 120 in the tri state area outside of lost marine who did 121ish at 19psi on RB TURBOS dosed in meth and ms109 race gas.

He went to the same track I just did and trapped 115-116mph on 93 octane.

So we have hotrod who hits 115mph on a bone stock car on 91 octane lol
And we have lostmarine who whit 116mph on a fully bolted car, on upgraded turbos runnin 93 octane.

What is even funnier is how people were sure I was using nitrous before I even bought the kit from Brian 135. People, including Shiv have looked at my car at the track. I can assure you no hidden nitrous, hybrid motors, aftermarket exhaust, intercooler, etc.

If my car is closer to the weight of a 135i..you know I trapped over 116mph
Racefuel..JB4/DCI:.118mph...on RFTs, high octane....otherwise stock.
Meth+91, JB4/DCI...and closer to 135 weight...121+mph
Nitrous...I have trapped 133mph....

So no....trapping 116 for me didn't require nitrous..or hidden mods, lol. You can see how much faster the car was with those other mods.

Not hating, great performance for your car. Just responding to your claim of having the fastest 91 octane/tune only run or street tires.

Now get some 60-130 pulls also!

FYI: My sedan trapped at 128.6mph this last weekend, still working on faster times...It also runs 3.4 second times with no warm up burnout, 2nd gear street launch.

[Clap135]

Over on n54 tech a tri state user just went 12.7 at 109 on v5 using 93 octane. I believe he had some bolt ons as well.

[themyst]

Hotrod-you're not factoring in the Sacramento trap inflation from when you ran your "record breaking" times.

Clap-he has an auto.

[Clap135]

Yea he's an auto with LSD downpipes and Dci. Running v5 map 2. I thought he would trap higher being that its 400 whp map. I am guessing my car is in the 360 whp range on its current state

[themyst]

I really need to get to the track to see how I do. 2nd gear launches only; going for traps.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by themyst

Hotrod-you're not factoring in the Sacramento trap inflation from when you ran your "record breaking" times.

Clap-he has an auto.

Sure I am...vbox read 129.xs mph at Sacramento...I have since ran 133mph on the vbox...(would have been 135.7 mph at Sac). Its pretty much a given a car running sub 7 second 60-130s is a 130mph+ trap car. Heck...I don't even think a ZR1 breaks out of the 7s.

[Clap135]

Hotrod. The man who defines common sense and physics. Sprays a car with a 28 shot and picks up over 150 to the rear wheels.

My 112 if I took a shit and had a tailwind would be a 118 if I was at sac and their timing was messed up to my ego would go up. If the stars aligned and a unicorn jumped across the finishline it would have been a 120. So my new time is 12.6 at 120 Cobb stage 1.


Shiv hit 126 at 19 psi stock turbo. Lm hit 121 rb turbos so the eh upgrade loses 80 wheel. Hold on to your stock turbos guys cause if u were there and not here u would run faster.

This if Bs is just that.....Bs.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

I wish I could join this discussion...

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Hotrod. The man who defines common sense and physics. Sprays a car with a 28 shot and picks up over 150 to the rear wheels.

My 112 if I took a shit and had a tailwind would be a 118 if I was at sac and their timing was messed up to my ego would go up. If the stars aligned and a unicorn jumped across the finishline it would have been a 120. So my new time is 12.6 at 120 Cobb stage 1.


Shiv hit 126 at 19 psi stock turbo. Lm hit 121 rb turbos so the eh upgrade loses 80 wheel. Hold on to your stock turbos guys cause if u were there and not here u would run faster.

This if Bs is just that.....Bs.

I've had a few customers report 114-117mph on 93 octane with mods using 14-15psi. Hell BMS did almost 112mph at Famoso (2200' DA) with their N55 135i using a JB+ as its only mod and we know how slow N55s are!

Mike

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Hotrod. The man who defines common sense and physics. Sprays a car with a 28 shot and picks up over 150 to the rear wheels.

My 112 if I took a shit and had a tailwind would be a 118 if I was at sac and their timing was messed up to my ego would go up. If the stars aligned and a unicorn jumped across the finishline it would have been a 120. So my new time is 12.6 at 120 Cobb stage 1.


Shiv hit 126 at 19 psi stock turbo. Lm hit 121 rb turbos so the eh upgrade loses 80 wheel. Hold on to your stock turbos guys cause if u were there and not here u would run faster.

This if Bs is just that.....Bs.

I don't get what all the fuss is about..your car is slow!

no, i'm joking, seriously though its exactly the trap that I'd expect running that boost curve

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by dzenno

I don't get what all the fuss is about..your car is slow!

no, i'm joking, seriously though its exactly the trap that I'd expect running that boost curve

Ask Jake or Jeff what I tested them. I actually said 12.9 at 108-110 lol. So it ran a little faster than I though. In an all out 93 effort I can see 115 traps. I actually ran that trap already on the standback back in the day. It wasn't exactly pretty though lol

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Hotrod. The man who defines common sense and physics. Sprays a car with a 28 shot and picks up over 150 to the rear wheels.

My 112 if I took a shit and had a tailwind would be a 118 if I was at sac and their timing was messed up to my ego would go up. If the stars aligned and a unicorn jumped across the finishline it would have been a 120. So my new time is 12.6 at 120 Cobb stage 1......Bs.

That is not true. If you ran at Sacramento now, you would probably trap 110mph. You didn't see Mr. 5's report? How about Drews report on his 16 ESS M3 runs at M'fest. In case you haven't noticed by now, the Vbox is incredibly accurate. Tracks differ. I think Vegas ran .7mph slower than the Vbox. Famoso 1.0 mph slower, Sac is now about 2.5mph slower. So guess what? Track trap speeds vary more than the Vbox...amazing isn't it.

Again..I will reiterate: I ran verified 133mph traps on the Vbox. level run. If you need me to post the graphs again, I will be more than happy to oblige. And yes..133mph traps is probably the fastest run on the planet for a N54...so far. Your 112mph on 91 octane is good, but nothing to be fascinated about, or record breaking.

FYI...I back up my runs with video, Vbox at the track, etc. I ran 11.8 in my sedan a few weeks ago...went up to Famoso and ran guess what?...I ran a 11.8.

Really has nothing to do with stars being aligned, I can assure you I am running 121mph+ traps daily, on 91 oct/meth the way I drive it now. Anything less than a 120mph trap right now would seriously disappoint me.

On my sedan build up list...I started instrumenting the car stock...ran 13.3-13.5..at 104-106mph...4.8-4.9 sec 0-60mph range..just where a stock 335i is supposed to run. It really is amazing how you doubt everything. I really couldn't have provided more proof.

But currently that fastest 60-130 on nitrous or off belongs to a JB3/JB4 335i.
Probably the fastest recorded trap on 91 was done on my car too.
And yes..for my car lacking traction, with no LSD, no intercooler, stock exhaust...its still #1 on drag times for a 335i. I'm sure you will do better with more mods, no one is stopping you. But you have absolutely no reason to accuse, or insult others by saying their runs are B.S. as much as you don't need someone to say it was BS for you to be running 91 octane. ( I mean 93).

[Clap135]

Nowhere did I say this was record breaking or amazing, it says cobb drag results.

I think you missed the point, it was to say your claims cannot be backed up by anyone else, but if you REALLY want me to pick these thigns apart I will be game.

Lets start with a couple of questions.
133mph trap speed in a 3500-3600lbs car.
What kind of power do you think that car has to put down?

115 traps in your video showing boost of like 13 psi falling to 11 on 91 octane. Same weight.
What kind of power do you think that car has to put down?

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Nowhere did I say this was record breaking or amazing, it says cobb drag results.


I think you missed the point, it was to say your claims cannot be backed up by anyone else, but if you REALLY want me to pick these thigns apart I will be game.

Lets start with a couple of questions.
133mph trap speed in a 3500-3600lbs car.
What kind of power do you think that car has to put down?

115 traps in your video showing boost of like 13 psi falling to 11 on 91 octane. Same weight.
What kind of power do you think that car has to put down?

I have looked at various HP calculators with varying results.

Not trying to argue here, but I'm sorry, I am not really into being a dyno queen or internet racing. I just want to see what the car does in real life, at the track, racing against others, etc. Maybe someday I will go to a dyno, but really have no interest in it.

For the record, I never claimed any type of HP numbers for my car, nor do I care.
And also, the coupe was very fast for reasons I still can't figure out. The sedan is 5mph slower in the traps (128mph) with a bigger 040 nitrous jet. Just the facts. I don't know why...wish I did, if you have any ideas, let me know!

But no biggie, good run you have there...but certainly not the fastest on 91 (93) octane like you were claiming, thats all I was getting at. I'm actually quite disappointed when I can't trap full weight, on RFTs, 91 octane/JB3/JB4.

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

I'm sorry, I am not really into being a dyno queen or internet racing. I just want to see what the car does in real life, at the track, racing against others, etc. Maybe someday I will go to a dyno, but really have no interest in it.

For the record, I never claimed any type of HP numbers for my car, nor do I care.

But no biggie, good run you have there...but certainly not the fastest on 91 (93) octane like you were claiming, thats all.

Can you simply answer, lets apply some common sense here and compare to actual results posted by others. Nothing more.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

I think the most REALISTIC Race gas Stock tune only trap was 114-115. I believe that car was light weight in some regards.

One should note that CLAP135 never mentioned he had record breaking results.

He also is stock weight + excess weight in the trunk for work equipment.

In essence, this is a 93 octane FBO, Stage 1 bottleneck boost run with extra weight.

These are realistic numbers, other numbers appear to be inflated, light weight, or race gas numbers with more boost.

Pick your poison but nobody is really comparing apples to apples.

Just for the record those 114+ traps on race gas tune only, were also taking advantage of more boost. The stage 1 cobb tapers to a realistic 13 PSI.

Not sure I trust the boost gauges I've seen in the past from the JB3 line up. I had them myself and compared to a manual boost gauge came up with different numbers.

Its no surprise either as one is read in the manifold (manual boost gauge) and the JB3 gauge was read at the TMAP.

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Hotrod. The man who defines common sense and physics. Sprays a car with a 28 shot and picks up over 150 to the rear wheels.

My 112 if I took a shit and had a tailwind would be a 118 if I was at sac and their timing was messed up to my ego would go up. If the stars aligned and a unicorn jumped across the finishline it would have been a 120. So my new time is 12.6 at 120 Cobb stage 1.


Shiv hit 126 at 19 psi stock turbo. Lm hit 121 rb turbos so the eh upgrade loses 80 wheel. Hold on to your stock turbos guys cause if u were there and not here u would run faster.

This if Bs is just that.....Bs.

keep going............

[Clap135]

We both know hotrod wont get into a common sense discussion, so Im not gonna waste my time.