Baseline Dyno vs. JB2 Dyno

A418t81 · 11-15-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

That's why I said proper dyno testing. By proper, it goes without saying that the testing procedure is held constant and fully disclosed. Full disclosure... try getting THAT from drag racers!

The serious drag racers, yeah, like pulling teeth

I did disclose everything on my run though...which is how the car sits every single day

Alpine335TT · 11-15-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MSimeon

Altered Atmoshphere huh? they're renowned for their work on 350Z's and G35's right?

That is correct!

335i4u2nv · 11-15-2007, 01:26 PM

haha great news i just smoked and i mean smoked a procede v2 twice from 0-70! but then my friend got off the phone and could use both hands to drive his 6speed and walked me like a limp kwak! procede v2 is great but the money.... not so nice... honeslty i could buy and make a car faster then a 335i procedev2! but then again itll probably blow up tryin. lol

Procede FTW!
JBS2 FTBudget! lol thats me!

boostin · 11-15-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 335i4u2nv

Procede FTW!
JBS2 FTBudget! lol thats me!

exactly. i don't know why the argument just continues and continues. if you have the money, get the procede. if you don't, chances are you'll be satisfied with what you get from the JB2/R for $375-$475. /DEBATE

-Chris

e.n335 · 11-16-2007, 07:49 AM

I posted it already. It's the "JB2 complex". SSTT owners don't have the problem.

Yeah, I bought a JB2 and smoked a PROcede V2 ! - Bravo

I know and feel my car is strong, I wanted to achieve this in the best ( not strongest ) possible way and I got it. I am fine.

What about the JB2(R) owners ? R U unsatisfied ?

- Eugen

RedGT3 · 11-16-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

What about the JB2(R) owners ? R U unsatisfied ?

- Eugen

Ok, no waiting time for the JB2. If I need support Terry always gets back to me in less than 10 minutes

. So in a word yes I am happy Jb customer. And I suppose you are a happy Procede customer so lets leave it at that.

e.n335 · 11-16-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fll335

Ok, no waiting time for the JB2. If I need support Terry always gets back to me in less than 10 minutes

. So in a word yes I am happy Jb customer. And I suppose you are a happy Procede customer so lets leave it at that.

Yes, lets leave it like that

Cheers
Eugen

5soko · 11-16-2007, 09:00 AM

Eugen, that sound about right, SSTT owners know what they got is a moderate power gain at a reasonable price. i for one, am always interested in new PROcede updates and records

but at the same time love the power i have of the SSTT with the simple install/uninstall, i dont understand why the jb2 crowd is trying to prove so much when they clearly make alot less power than the procede. JB2 makes about the same power as the SSTT and a few members who ran them aganist eachother are neck and neck(drivers race)

JB2- cheap power increase
PROcede- alot of damn power

adc · 11-16-2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

I posted it already. It's the "JB2 complex". SSTT owners don't have the problem.

Yeah, I bought a JB2 and smoked a PROcede V2 ! - Bravo

I know and feel my car is strong, I wanted to achieve this in the best ( not strongest ) possible way and I got it. I am fine.

What about the JB2(R) owners ? R U unsatisfied ?

- Eugen

That's really funny, considering all the Procede owners, tuners etc. posting in a JB2-specific thread.

sambonator · 11-16-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by adc

That's really funny, considering all the Procede owners, tuners etc. posting in a JB2-specific thread.

+1. It's the other way around. Whenever JB2 or JB2R owners post how happy they are with the product, or that ran xx secs in the 1/4 or 0-60 or whatever, we get unhappy Procede owners posting basura... "It must have been tested going downhill!" "He cheated! It was race gas!" "He lightened his car by 500 pounds!" "He ran drag radials that cheater!" "He had downpipes so it don't count!" ... and now lately its "0-60 is meaningless!" and "1/4 mile times don't count for shite!" yadda yadda

e.n335 · 11-16-2007, 11:48 AM

It's entertaining when drunken JB2 owners run the JB2R on 93 octane or simple physics are ignored ...

5soko · 11-16-2007, 12:02 PM

im a SSTT owner and still get invovled in most tuner threads, except i try to stay away from JB threads as this is what happens usually.

PROcede and SSTT are some of the more popular choices out there as there media recognized and dont involve as much drama.

adc · 11-16-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

It's entertaining when drunken JB2 owners run the JB2R on 93 octane or simple physics are ignored ...

Just like the Antagonizer bunny, you keep going, and going...

adc · 11-16-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

PROcede and SSTT are some of the more popular choices out there as there media recognized and dont involve as much drama.

Yes, now that you mention it, I seem to remember reading about the SSTT in NY Times...

e.n335 · 11-16-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

Just like the Antagonizer bunny, you keep going, and going...

Sorry, I'II try to stay away from JB threads.

- Eugen

Nikolas · 11-16-2007, 12:36 PM

Actually I think the whole battle is kind of funny. It certainly is not going to help the sales on either product. Both tuners are guilty of stirring the mud. Lately I must say, though, Shiv has been very guilty jumping into threads and antagonizing to a level that got Terry banned before.

OpenFlash · 11-16-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikolas

Lately I must say, though, Shiv has been very guilty jumping into threads and antagonizing to a level that got Terry banned before.

Can you provide an example of this?

shiv

Nikolas · 11-16-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Can you provide an example of this?

shi

C'mon Shiv. Are you saying you have not taken any stabs at the JB or Terry?

I don't have time to search for the quotes between this site, Bimmerforums or Bimmerfest, but the one that I think was unacceptable was your concept of starting "happymealtooning.com"

There is no way you can say that was not a direct stab at Terry and the Juice box. You even quote in that thread that this will be the product for those that want a bad tune. You replied to me in that thread saying you were serious about that product which is even more disturbing after hearing all your criticisms with regards to the use of these resistor "piggybacks".

Now obviously Terry has ignited fires under you as well and he is by no means inocent either. I would just expect more from you based upon how you are perceived by all the Procede fans on this site. Your comments just make the situation even worse which is clearly seen on any post that is either procede (yay great results) or Jb2 (great but..........).

While I enjoy the entertainment, I think both of you are hurting your client base and turning, maybe only a few of us, away from both the Procede and the Juice Box.

Nik

OpenFlash · 11-16-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikolas

C'mon Shiv. Are you saying you have not taken any stabs at the JB or Terry?

I don't have time to search for the quotes between this site, Bimmerforums or Bimmerfest, but the one that I think was unacceptable was your concept of starting "happymealtooning.com"

There is no way you can say that was not a direct stab at Terry and the Juice box. You even quote in that thread that this will be the product for those that want a bad tune. You replied to me in that thread saying you were serious about that product which is even more disturbing after hearing all your criticisms with regards to the use of these resistor "piggybacks".

Now obviously Terry has ignited fires under you as well and he is by no means inocent either. I would just expect more from you based upon how you are perceived by all the Procede fans on this site. Your comments just make the situation even worse which is clearly seen on any post that is either procede (yay great results) or Jb2 (great but..........).

While I enjoy the entertainment, I think both of you are hurting your client base and turning, maybe only a few of us, away from both the Procede and the Juice Box.

Nik

Please show me an example, on this forum, of this antagonistic behavior that you are accusing me of. You took the effort to write that whole post, at least you can do is answer my original request.

Setting up a website, regardless of the name, that shows people who to build their own resistor based tuning device (and fully discloses all the caveats involved in using such a device) isn't antagonistic. Especially when it was my idea (as a joke) in the first place. If you need help, just tell me what the thread discussion topic was and I can probably find the actual thread.

Shiv

stillclaimndp · 11-16-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 335i4u2nv

haha great news i just smoked and i mean smoked a procede v2 twice from 0-70! but then my friend got off the phone and could use both hands to drive his 6speed and walked me like a limp kwak! procede v2 is great but the money.... not so nice... honeslty i could buy and make a car faster then a 335i procedev2! but then again itll probably blow up tryin. lol

Procede FTW!
JBS2 FTBudget! lol thats me!

race him in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear when the rpms aren't flying up so crazy that everything can actually go to work and then let us know what you think

Imagine spending 1,500 on any other car and gaining 100bhp and 130btq, i think you would be pretty pysched

Nikolas · 11-16-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Please show me an example, on this forum, of this antagonistic behavior that you are accusing me of. You took the effort to write that whole post, at least you can do is answer my original request.

Setting up a website, regardless of the name, that shows people who to build their own resistor based tuning device (and fully discloses all the caveats involved in using such a device) isn't antagonistic. Especially when it was my idea (as a joke) in the first place.

Shiv

I believe the topic I mentioned above is on this site, unless it was removed. I type fast. That whole post is a lot easier than digging through the 10 pages of crap. If you don't feel you have done anything to antagonize the situation, then there really isn't much more I can say. I really don't think it matters which site and where. I have read and so have others.

Your comment that I mentioned was clearly a stab at Terry. You can deny it all you want. Give me a break, the guys name is Terry Burger and his company was Burger tuning and you come up with Happymealtooning and don't think that is a stab at Terry? give me a break.

I was merely pointing out that your battles with Terry are unprofessional on both sides. I don't care which site it is on. Most of us go to multiple sites and see that behavior from both of you.

You don't have to agree with me as I expect you will not. I have my own business as well and the worst way to get new business is fighting with my competition.

Nik

sambonator · 11-16-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Can you provide an example of this?

shiv

Maybe he's referring to this thread?
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=872755

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335i4u2nv Colonel 69 Rep 2,765 Posts Drives: 335i e9O sL0w Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: im right behind u iTrader: (0)	haha great news i just smoked and i mean smoked a procede v2 twice from 0-70! but then my friend got off the phone and could use both hands to drive his 6speed and walked me like a limp kwak! procede v2 is great but the money.... not so nice... honeslty i could buy and make a car faster then a 335i procedev2! but then again itll probably blow up tryin. lol Procede FTW! JBS2 FTBudget! lol thats me!
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e.n335 Moderator 279 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	I posted it already. It's the "JB2 complex". SSTT owners don't have the problem. Yeah, I bought a JB2 and smoked a PROcede V2 ! - Bravo I know and feel my car is strong, I wanted to achieve this in the best ( not strongest ) possible way and I got it. I am fine. What about the JB2(R) owners ? R U unsatisfied ? - Eugen
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11-16-2007, 09:00 AM	#118
5soko Brigadier General 350 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	Eugen, that sound about right, SSTT owners know what they got is a moderate power gain at a reasonable price. i for one, am always interested in new PROcede updates and records but at the same time love the power i have of the SSTT with the simple install/uninstall, i dont understand why the jb2 crowd is trying to prove so much when they clearly make alot less power than the procede. JB2 makes about the same power as the SSTT and a few members who ran them aganist eachother are neck and neck(drivers race) JB2- cheap power increase PROcede- alot of damn power
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e.n335 Moderator 279 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	It's entertaining when drunken JB2 owners run the JB2R on 93 octane or simple physics are ignored ...
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5soko Brigadier General 350 Rep 4,633 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	im a SSTT owner and still get invovled in most tuner threads, except i try to stay away from JB threads as this is what happens usually. PROcede and SSTT are some of the more popular choices out there as there media recognized and dont involve as much drama.
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Nikolas Colonel 313 Rep 2,576 Posts Drives: 996 TT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sierra Mountains iTrader: (0)	Actually I think the whole battle is kind of funny. It certainly is not going to help the sales on either product. Both tuners are guilty of stirring the mud. Lately I must say, though, Shiv has been very guilty jumping into threads and antagonizing to a level that got Terry banned before.
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