[Beer Goggles]

The real comparison for the average guy is on the stock car...racing modded cars means nothing at the end of the day. And since Walked U is a "beta" tester I'd say it's as close to a Vishnu car as you can get without being one.


Happy Thanksgiving, stop the bitching.

is there any way i can test out the jb2r for like 7 days and if i dont like it, get a refund?
im on catless DPs plus procede v 1.47 but im curious to see how the car would do with the jb2r instead...

[OC Guy]

Sorry I couldn't of made it, it sounded like fun. Stuff came up.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

is there any way i can test out the jb2r for like 7 days and if i dont like it, get a refund?
im on catless DPs plus procede v 1.47 but im curious to see how the car would do with the jb2r instead...

Sure, we offer a 14 day return policy. Just take good care of it.

[Driver72]

Now as for the other runs, well, since I parked my car and was the videographer inside Terry's car, I didn't get a chance to run against all the other guys until we went back to get my car.

I have just the PROcede v1.47, K&N drop in filter, and 19" CSL reps on General tires, with the AUTO tranny.

I ran Walked U and JonMartin last night and AB Tek 818 on Saturday.

We all know what Sherwin has.
JonMartin has PROcede v1.47, RD Sport Catback exhaust, 19" wheels, drop in filter, and lowered and is a 6 speed MANUAL.

I would say I was about 150-175 lbs less in my car than Jon.
I was alone and weigh 165, he had him and his girlfriend.
But his exhaust should give him 12+ rwhp.
So I was probably really running with a weight advantage of about 50 lbs.
I had 93 Octane in (2.5 gallons of 100 mixed to 1/2 tank of 91) and had about 1/3rd tank at the time of the runs.

JonMartin said he was on a 93-94 Octane mix too.

Well from a 40-50 mph (2nd gear) start to 130-ish I pulled 1.5 CL's on him twice.

As I've said before, the autos seem to be worth about 1 CL over the manuals. Doesn't matter how fast the manual driver shifts, they can't shift as fast as the auto or make up for the better gearing in the autos.

I was about 2.5 CL's behind Walked U (which makes sense since when I was riding in Walked U's car for several runs with JonMartin, Sherwin would pull 4 CL's from a 2nd gear start.

When I ran Adam (AB Tek 818) he'd beat me by 1.5-2 CL's.
Adam has PROcede v2.0.1, Borla exhaust, 2nd cat delete, ITG drop in filter and a 6 speed manual too.
On one or two of the runs I was only about 1-1.25 CL's behind but on the last run I was closer to 2.5 CL behind.
On the majority, I'd say I was like 1.5-2 CL behind (about 15-20 feet of air between his rear bumper and my front bumper) from 40-120 mph rolls.


Again, sadly none of these races have been apples to apples since we all have different transmissions and different mods, on different octane mixes. But it gives you an idea.

I think it's safe to say that v2 gives you about 2-2.5 CL's over v1.4 and the same hold true for JB2R over JB2.

But hopefully we can get an apples to apples comparison of the different cars soon too, from customers with same transmissions and same mods.

Good to see some of you again last night (small gathering) but I got to meet one or two new faces.

Originally Posted by Terry335

Sure, we offer a 14 day return policy. Just take good care of it.

sounds good

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by A418t81

I am a JB2R only guy and will be back in Atl for all of December. Find a V.2.0.2 guy there and we'll try to make it happen.

We'll, I just so happen to live near Atlanta.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Beer Goggles

The real comparison for the average guy is on the stock car...racing modded cars means nothing at the end of the day. And since Walked U is a "beta" tester I'd say it's as close to a Vishnu car as you can get without being one.


Happy Thanksgiving, stop the bitching.

lol... beta just means he gets an early release baseline map (one that will be tweaked/improved based upon his input) a few weeks earlier than the rest. It's not like his car is custom tuned and tested like mine (and presumabely Terry's) car.

shiv

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by A418t81

I am a JB2R only guy and will be back in Atl for all of December. Find a V.2.0.2 guy there and we'll try to make it happen.

I'm going to meet up with HotRod182 again soon.
He's now on JB2R and I'm still on v1.47
I would expect him to pull 2 or so CL's on me now.
Then I'll meet up with him again once I get v2.02 and see what happens.

Hotrod and I weigh about the same, have the same wheels and tires, and both have autos, so it's as close as you can get.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by scalbert

We'll, I just so happen to live near Atlanta.

Hey Greyson if you're going to race this guy better do the exhaust first...

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by Driver72

I'm going to meet up with HotRod182 again soon.
He's now on JB2R and I'm still on v1.47
I would expect him to pull 2 or so CL's on me now.
Then I'll meet up with him again once I get v2.02 and see what happens.

Hotrod and I weigh about the same, have the same wheels and tires, and both have autos, so it's as close as you can get.

You should include Down4it on that too!

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Hey Greyson if you're going to race this guy better do the exhaust first...

Hey, I am completely stock except for the PROcede. Heck, I didn't even like the golf tee mod.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by scalbert

Hey, I am completely stock except for the PROcede. Heck, I didn't even like the golf tee mod.

Ah I figured from that other post you had DP+IC... well then it sounds like a fair comparo!

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Ah I figured from that other post you had DP+IC... well then it sounds like a fair comparo!

Nope, I even run the stock filter; just change them often as well as the oil. But now, my days are over with touching every aspect of the car. No time or desire to go any further than it is now.

[purplewidow]

some people seem to want jb2r...but i don't get it cause a lot of the requests seem from people who use it as a daily driver and don't use 100oct gas...which i don't get at all...why would you want a race map unless for track only use...makes no sense...yet i have seen people do it!!!! i don't get it...like the one a couple posts above are you gonna use 100oct 100% of the time? and do you have an lsd...no point in getting all this power and not being able to put it to the pavement!!!!go faster than 1.47 and i see a NEED more than a want for an lsd...i still think that lsd plus exhaust and maybe an fmic is a MUST before a tune...it makes no sense to just leave the car stock and give it a powerful tune it can't even properly use because a lack of lsd and a proper exhaust...people say on here all the time exhaust doesn't give much...i consider a 6-7% gain as eisenman claims pretty damn good and with an intake and tune should give more

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by purplewidow

some people seem to want jb2r...but i don't get it cause a lot of the requests seem from people who use it as a daily driver and don't use 100oct gas...which i don't get at all...why would you want a race map unless for track only use...makes no sense...yet i have seen people do it!!!! i don't get it...like the one a couple posts above are you gonna use 100oct 100% of the time?

The "R" is just a switch you flip when you add 100 octane to the tank. On normal pump you just turn it off and enjoy the nice 40rwhp/50rwtq bump over stock.

Originally Posted by purplewidow

some people seem to want jb2r...but i don't get it cause a lot of the requests seem from people who use it as a daily driver and don't use 100oct gas...which i don't get at all...why would you want a race map unless for track only use...makes no sense...yet i have seen people do it!!!! i don't get it...like the one a couple posts above are you gonna use 100oct 100% of the time? and do you have an lsd...no point in getting all this power and not being able to put it to the pavement!!!!go faster than 1.47 and i see a NEED more than a want for an lsd...i still think that lsd plus exhaust and maybe an fmic is a MUST before a tune...it makes no sense to just leave the car stock and give it a powerful tune it can't even properly use because a lack of lsd and a proper exhaust...people say on here all the time exhaust doesn't give much...i consider a 6-7% gain as eisenman claims pretty damn good and with an intake and tune should give more

There is a gas station located approximately 1.3 miles away from me and I'm just curious to see how the car performs with the JBR2 on straight 100 octane. I also have catless DPs so it should be pretty interesting.

It's all about seeing which set up I like better.....

As for the daily driver comment - obviously I'm not going to be driving on 100 octane all the time. That's where the switch comes in

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Carnage I was expecting a better response than that, but you impressed enough people amazingly... (Every sentenced had the word Sh1t in it)

what can I tell ya, I'm good like that...

My dad thought me a long time ago to call it like you see it and if it looks and smells like shit, it probably is....

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Haha didn't want you to get death threats for riding in my car...

, no worries, I can handle myself quite well if need be.

[HyperM3]

Originally Posted by Driver72

I would say I was about 150-175 lbs less in my car than Jon.
I was alone and weigh 165, he had him and his girlfriend.

So his gf weighed 150-175lbs?

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by HyperM3

So his gf weighed 150-175lbs?

Yes.

His GF is 6 feet tall.

[MacDutchski]

What is the peak boost for V2?