[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by Ballistic

Sorry, forgot to tell this is running the ZF 6AT with xHP Stage3 flash.

I need to read up some more on load targets to fully understand them.

that might have something to do with it. It might be expecting some softer hit on the shifts. I would at least set DSC for off and try another WFO log and see what the shift does. I would also get in on their beta tests or early adopters of V8 maps to see how that loads things a little more. Your motor seems healthly,, sounds like it could take a little more scroll - not sure what that might do to WGdcs.. id keep an eye on them. They are getting near 60 at the end of your top gear when its trying to make 16+...

your log looks a little different than most I see that are s2.. Yours are a little closer to the OTS limits. I dont know if it being an e91 (and additional weight) has much to do with it or not.

[Ballistic]

I will try and record some more logs soon.
I am already a MHD beta tester via Google Play app but i will send a message to the guys to see if we can help eachother.

I'll put some 102ron fuel in it soon with the 102 Stage2+ map and put it on a dyno. I'm hoping it will push about 360hp on the wheels but i'm happy with anything over 350.
According to your posts it looks like i am in the right direction

Thanks again for your input.

[erttuli]

Don't you have access to E85 where you live? I do 15 liters of E85 and the rest V-power for stg2+ 98/102 map and works fine, could do maybe 20 liters to be safe but yea, not getting any timing corrections atm. Need to try E25 map again after I replace those damn coils+plugs..
Will be interesting to see what you get of the map, running the same atm.

[Ballistic]

No affordable ethanol here I do have access to EUR98 (93oct) and Competition102 (95oct) but it's very expensive so i want to keep running the 91oct map. Which is enough power in Holland anyway.
They will be rolling out EUR95 E10 in the coming years which has 10% ethanol but i expect the 90% petrol will have a lower octane number so it evens out to 95RON.

I will pump and reflash to 95oct when visiting Germany But for driving like that i need a better intercooler too.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by erttuli

Don't you have access to E85 where you live? I do 15 liters of E85 and the rest V-power for stg2+ 98/102 map and works fine, could do maybe 20 liters to be safe but yea, not getting any timing corrections atm. Need to try E25 map again after I replace those damn coils+plugs..
Will be interesting to see what you get of the map, running the same atm.

+1 on the E25 map... i feel like e maps make a LOt more power than the stage 1 or 2

just dynoed my 335i at 406hp at the wheels and 448 torque running e25 mhd, 5"fmic and charge pipe

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by shanker604

+1 on the E25 map... i feel like e maps make a LOt more power than the stage 1 or 2

just dynoed my 335i at 406hp at the wheels and 448 torque running e25 mhd, 5"fmic and charge pipe

cool - sounds stout..

[McLeanSC]

Hi guys/girls. Could someone take a look at my log and tell me if it looks ok? The car is stock. Is it normal to have next to no timing corrections all the way through 2nd to 4th WOT? I run the car on 99RON VPower on a stock map. This was also with a fuel mixture code showing on the DME but as far as I can see the AFR's look good? Cheers

https://datazap.me/u/mclean6366/29e1...-9-10-14-15-19

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by McLeanSC

Hi guys/girls. Could someone take a look at my log and tell me if it looks ok? The car is stock. Is it normal to have next to no timing corrections all the way through 2nd to 4th WOT? I run the car on 99RON VPower on a stock map. This was also with a fuel mixture code showing on the DME but as far as I can see the AFR's look good? Cheers

https://datazap.me/u/mclean6366/29e1...-9-10-14-15-19

Factory maps dont push the DME the same way. IT is not going to be close to timing corrections at the factory boost level in most cases. But, on shifts and when when a load target is exceeded, the DME will do stuff like pull timing for all cyls and close throttle.

That is what happens to you on the 3/4 shift. Hard to say what that might do on a OTS/MHD map. Start with S1.

[Silent9n54]

question... after installing boost solenoids im exceeding target psi by 0.5 a few times during a pull... do i need to reset any adaptations perhaps ?

i was always short of the target psi by 1 or 2 before i installed them and getting the occasional 30ff code which is not popping up anymore

[Sgop335]

Originally Posted by McLeanSC

Hi guys/girls. Could someone take a look at my log and tell me if it looks ok? The car is stock. Is it normal to have next to no timing corrections all the way through 2nd to 4th WOT? I run the car on 99RON VPower on a stock map. This was also with a fuel mixture code showing on the DME but as far as I can see the AFR's look good? Cheers

https://datazap.me/u/mclean6366/29e1...-9-10-14-15-19

Dunno wtf earlier guy was saying but, your log looks good. Is it normal, no, but you are running 99 and it is great to have no corrections!
Only small thing to point out afrs dont climb to 235 as cleanly as they could. Lot of throttle closures normal for stock map, each time boost exceeds target. The timing is nice and strong. Whats the code?

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by Sgop335

Dunno wtf earlier guy was saying but, your log looks good. Is it normal, no, but you are running 99 and it is great to have no corrections!
Only small thing to point out afrs dont climb to 235 as cleanly as they could. Lot of throttle closures normal for stock map, each time boost exceeds target. The timing is nice and strong. Whats the code?

Ah, it looks like any other factory log. They dont DO TIMING CORRECTIONS bc they arn't at load limits the same way (at least no log I have seen). So it really wont be to definitive until it gets more load. And Load reqests and load actual should be logged to get any real idea what might have been exceeded any why throttle closer occured.


Location Scotland - 99 RON is the same as 93 in the US ((R+M)/2)=ANTI KNOCK INDEX

Lambda can be below 235 for various reasons - especially transient .. most likely is a fouled or aging O2 sensor.

But whatever, just MO.

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by shanker604

question... after installing boost solenoids im exceeding target psi by 0.5 a few times during a pull... do i need to reset any adaptations perhaps ?

i was always short of the target psi by 1 or 2 before i installed them and getting the occasional 30ff code which is not popping up anymore

a little strange.. so did it reduce load bc of it?? Not sure what adapts you would reset. But it would not hurt. Id just drive a while, it should stabilize. What boost we talking? did it go over on a shift or during mid pull?

[RSL]

Originally Posted by shanker604

question... after installing boost solenoids im exceeding target psi by 0.5 a few times during a pull... do i need to reset any adaptations perhaps ?

What adaptations exactly? If it's an unlocked tune, could tweak WGDC/PID if it's really bothering you.

Originally Posted by McLeanSC

Hi guys/girls. Could someone take a look at my log and tell me if it looks ok? The car is stock. Is it normal to have next to no timing corrections all the way through 2nd to 4th WOT? I run the car on 99RON VPower on a stock map. This was also with a fuel mixture code showing on the DME but as far as I can see the AFR's look good? Cheers

https://datazap.me/u/mclean6366/29e1...-9-10-14-15-19

Stock bin, 7psi, equivalent of 93-94 octane, guessing somewhere around 60-65F and rowing through gears. You're not asking for much and conditions don't get much better than that. Now, if you had no corrections at constant highway speeds on a stock bin, I'd be impressed.

If an injector were leaking in some fashion, the bank wouldn't get to 235:1, would take extremely long time to do it or might hit it initially and then fall back into the 100s:1 or lower. Those initial gaps between bank AFRs like McClean's are likely a non-issue, but can certainly keep a watch on it. If there's an actual leaky injector in a bank, you really can't miss it (unless someone has burble option set, then it's dumping fuel on purpose when they'd normally be off).

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

a little strange.. so did it reduce load bc of it?? Not sure what adapts you would reset. But it would not hurt. Id just drive a while, it should stabilize. What boost we talking? did it go over on a shift or during mid pull?

i tried both e25 and e40 maps load is always around 195 196 max... anywhere from 14-18 psi it shows just a tad more most of the pull..if target is 17psi its at 17.3 17.5 ..but shouldnt load go past 196 if i switched to e40 ? no timing pulled on this map either

[autoart]

Just went fbo and thought I would post a log. Not sure what I'm looking for but it seems my boot is not hitting the target. https://datazap.me/u/autoart/log-150...ata=1-5-6-7-20

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

a little strange.. so did it reduce load bc of it?? Not sure what adapts you would reset. But it would not hurt. Id just drive a while, it should stabilize. What boost we talking? did it go over on a shift or during mid pull?

here is my log .. just loaded e40 map 30 mins before the log

boost exceeds target on a couple occasions..

how is the log looking overall ?

https://datazap.me/u/shanker604/335i...=0&data=3-5-23

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by shanker604

here is my log .. just loaded e40 map 30 mins before the log

boost exceeds target on a couple occasions..

how is the log looking overall ?

https://datazap.me/u/shanker604/335i...=0&data=3-5-23

ill look - but this guy is the expert when it starts getting to custom maps (granted, we are talking an OTS map but you are rapidly getting into some custom stuff).
RSL


Now having said that, I see a few things. Hopefully save RSL some keystrokes. I would think for that boost it should be a higher load. Its only in the 190s for a short while and then tapers to the 160-170s.

I dont see WGDC logged (also include PID) so that might be something but I think you are hitting up against some of the factory limits in the DCT.. this is a dct right? You should get with wedge and try to get in on some of the newer v8 map testing. ( see http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...ostcount=10260)
I am not sure where the 510nm limit comes into play during a pull but it obviously affects at the shift. It also seems to be pretty lean and trims are pullin fuel. That can't help with power. I dont see anything wrong as such, it just needs more tuning to keep making power as you add rpm.

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by autoart

Just went fbo and thought I would post a log. Not sure what I'm looking for but it seems my boot is not hitting the target. https://datazap.me/u/autoart/log-150...ata=1-5-6-7-20

not some of the traditional variables I expect. So, i guess this is a cobb log??
Little timing getting pulled, not bad -
AFR is pretty close but I only see one bank
And not seeing short term trims. Does cobb log that?
The taper on boost is pretty high..
Thats all I Can offer.

We might have to get some other eyes on this..But I think you need a custom tune to be able to leverage boost higher in the band..

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

ill look - but this guy is the expert when it starts getting to custom maps (granted, we are talking an OTS map but you are rapidly getting into some custom stuff).
RSL


Now having said that, I see a few things. Hopefully save RSL some keystrokes. I would think for that boost it should be a higher load. Its only in the 190s for a short while and then tapers to the 160-170s.

I dont see WGDC logged (also include PID) so that might be something but I think you are hitting up against some of the factory limits in the DCT.. this is a dct right? You should get with wedge and try to get in on some of the newer v8 map testing. ( see http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...ostcount=10260)
I am not sure where the 510nm limit comes into play during a pull but it obviously affects at the shift. It also seems to be pretty lean and trims are pullin fuel. That can't help with power. I dont see anything wrong as such, it just needs more tuning to keep making power as you add rpm.

wdgc is logged.. it tops at 63 %... also 510 nm limiter was removed with xhp stage 3, you can see it goes up to 650nm in the log

[RSL]

Originally Posted by shanker604

i tried both e25 and e40 maps load is always around 195 196 max... anywhere from 14-18 psi it shows just a tad more most of the pull..if target is 17psi its at 17.3 17.5 ..but shouldnt load go past 196 if i switched to e40 ? no timing pulled on this map either

Nope, load targets/actual and boost targets/actual between your E25 and E40 logs are the same. Only differences I see in logs are better STFTs, higher torque output and higher timing targets on E40 compared to E25. That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of other changes that you wouldn't see in a log, but load/boost are no different between them.

>200 actual load can be a problem on some cars (DCT IIRC), but you might see it on an "m-boost" map occasionally. There's really no need for load that high though. I'm sure most people are after boost, not load, and you can have 22psi at 155 load, 220 load or anywhere in between, all depends on the tune. On a locked map, you get what you're given and the only things that will move actual load/boost around then are environmental/operational factors.

335e92tx Can almost guarantee torque output request will always be 510nm at WOT on a tuned map and probably all of the OTS MHD maps. Torque actual value (nm) is what changes depending on settings and effects the tranny, shifts and other things.

[RSL]

Originally Posted by autoart

Just went fbo and thought I would post a log. Not sure what I'm looking for but it seems my boot is not hitting the target. https://datazap.me/u/autoart/log-150...ata=1-5-6-7-20

Originally Posted by 335e92tx

not some of the traditional variables I expect. So, i guess this is a cobb log??
Little timing getting pulled, not bad -
AFR is pretty close but I only see one bank
And not seeing short term trims. Does cobb log that?
The taper on boost is pretty high..
Thats all I Can offer.

We might have to get some other eyes on this..But I think you need a custom tune to be able to leverage boost higher in the band..

+1 that gas isn't great or the tune needs work for it. Despite the name, boost target is not a target, it's a limit. Boost somewhat below boost target isn't a problem unless WGDC is high at the same time, which may indicate a leak.

[335e92tx]

Originally Posted by RSL

Can almost guarantee torque output request will always be 510nm at WOT on a tuned map and probably all of the OTS MHD maps.

I see. Prob so. Iv only seen the actual value in mine. never logged req. Still looked like it pulled power back a bunch at the shift though.

Torque actual value (nm) is what changes depending on settings and effects the tranny, shifts and other things.

Gotcha.