[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Hadley

Looks like a meet is on the horizon!

We should do a meet at the track...not that I am going to set up a meet as that isn't my thing.

[Amonra08]

Originally Posted by Torgus

We should do a meet at the track...not that I am going to set up a meet as that isn't my thing.

I'm d for a track meet...sometime in September would be great

[dwells]

Filled the tank up with E85 last night. I'm planning on doing three third gear pulls tonight to calibrate map 5, and then two more pulls to data log. Here's to hoping my stock car can handle the approximately E30 blend I put in.

When I tested the E85 it appeared to be roughly E75, so I put in more E85 than I would have otherwise. Hopefully my testing was right and I'm not actually running closer to E40.

[Boston335xi]

Originally Posted by dwells

Filled the tank up with E85 last night. I'm planning on doing three third gear pulls tonight to calibrate map 5, and then two more pulls to data log. Here's to hoping my stock car can handle the approximately E30 blend I put in.

When I tested the E85 it appeared to be roughly E75, so I put in more E85 than I would have otherwise. Hopefully my testing was right and I'm not actually running closer to E40.

If you over boost the map will default to stock settings. Reset it and put some 87 in it to bring down the octane and you should be good.

[zero2sixtyZ]

Early Sept for Track meet?

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

Early Sept for Track meet?

At least it will be cool which I am down for. Then again this August has felt like September.

I'm in, Epping right?

[zero2sixtyZ]

Originally Posted by Torgus

At least it will be cool which I am down for. Then again this August has felt like September.

I'm in, Epping right?

Yes sir. I've been crazy busy with work, and attending weddings. Haven't had a chance to safely say I could make a meet. Sorry guys.

I'm thinking second week of Sept, up in Epping?

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

Yes sir. I've been crazy busy with work, and attending weddings. Haven't had a chance to safely say I could make a meet. Sorry guys.

I'm thinking second week of Sept, up in Epping?

Weddings are great at sucking up your time and money, I had 5 last year. Which meant 5 summer weekends booked and $$$.

Ugh I completely forgot that fact i'm going to be in Atlantic City the 2nd week of September for work. I think I'm the only person who complains about having to go there.

I would prefer the week of the 15th, 22nd, or 29th. But don't feel you have to work around my schedule.

[Island Road]

Just let me know the time and dates. There is a HPDE sept 25th in NH would be a good meet.

[dwells]

Well, it looks like my car can't handle E85 properly: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26497

So that's a bit of a bummer. On the upside, no codes thrown, no misfires or anything. I guess I should do some more logs on just 93 octane and see how they go. The problem is the whole full third gear pull thing - that's from 30mph to 90mph or so WOT. There's like nowhere to do that; it was hard enough doing it the few times I did for those logs and it had to be on an incline for some.

Since E85 isn't the answer and I want 400hp+, it seems like I need to go with downpipes and map 2. That does leave me with the problem of emissions and then of course the price of the downpipes and the installation, as well.

Hmmm...

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by dwells

Well, it looks like my car can't handle E85 properly: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26497

So that's a bit of a bummer. On the upside, no codes thrown, no misfires or anything. I guess I should do some more logs on just 93 octane and see how they go. The problem is the whole full third gear pull thing - that's from 30mph to 90mph or so WOT. There's like nowhere to do that; it was hard enough doing it the few times I did for those logs and it had to be on an incline for some.

Since E85 isn't the answer and I want 400hp+, it seems like I need to go with downpipes and map 2. That does leave me with the problem of emissions and then of course the price of the downpipes and the installation, as well.

Hmmm...

Yeah make sure everything is good with your 93 logs 1st.

There is no issue with emissions in MA. I pull in with catless DPs and my flash only tune and pass. You are allowed one readiness monitor not ready.

I would order DPs and an IC from Tiago, maybe throw in a CP for good measure. As far as install cost try and find a mechanic who wants a side job or DIY...It is much more rewarding DIY but that is just me.

[dwells]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Yeah make sure everything is good with your 93 logs 1st.

There is no issue with emissions in MA. I pull in with catless DPs and my flash only tune and pass. You are allowed one readiness monitor not ready.

I would order DPs and an IC from Tiago, maybe throw in a CP for good measure. As far as install cost try and find a mechanic who wants a side job or DIY...It is much more rewarding DIY but that is just me.

I didn't know that about the emissions, thanks.

As far as intercooler goes, it's outside my "amount I'm willing to throw at my car" budget. Given that I never push the car hard for any extended periods of time, I'm not entirely sure it would be worth it, either. No tracking since I don't have an oil cooler, and nowhere to really get up to speed.

Unfortunately my mechanic options are really limited (can't find anything out this way). I looked at the DIY, but it seems to be out of my league. I'm doing spark plugs soon for my brother and even that is scary for me, ha!

Still gotta find somewhere to do some data logging too. Highways around here are hilly, very heavily policed, and will pull you over for 73mph.

[Torgus]

New stock frame turbo record:



If that could be reliable for DD who needs a ST...it literally increases 200 ft lb of tq from 3-4k rpms...

[dwells]

Is that at the wheels?!

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by dwells

Is that at the wheels?!

yup on a dynojet to boot, granted there is no baseline or log I am aware of. it's on the other forarm. custom built stock frame turbos, E85 mix, meth for fueling. Those numbers should increase by a bit if they can do 100% E85 I think. Either way impressive.

400 ft lbs of tq at 3k
500 ft lbs of tq at 3.5k
600 ft lbs of tq at 4k

so from 4k-6.5k rpms you are at basically 600 wheel tq or hp.


obviously this is unique but pretty amazing for stock frames given their size imo.

It would make for a killer DD with that instant tq on tap. a ST will end up being faster with more linear power but damn...

[Boston335xi]

Originally Posted by dwells

I didn't know that about the emissions, thanks.

As far as intercooler goes, it's outside my "amount I'm willing to throw at my car" budget. Given that I never push the car hard for any extended periods of time, I'm not entirely sure it would be worth it, either. No tracking since I don't have an oil cooler, and nowhere to really get up to speed.

Unfortunately my mechanic options are really limited (can't find anything out this way). I looked at the DIY, but it seems to be out of my league. I'm doing spark plugs soon for my brother and even that is scary for me, ha!

Still gotta find somewhere to do some data logging too. Highways around here are hilly, very heavily policed, and will pull you over for 73mph.

How much e85 did you add to the first tank?

[Island Road]

Originally Posted by Torgus

New stock frame turbo record:

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ps108c28e1.jpg[/IMG]

If that could be reliable for DD who needs a ST...it literally increases 200 ft lb of tq from 3-4k rpms...

Sent this to Z when it first came out. I was like holy shit my thoughts exactly no ST even needed. Also I don't believe they even upgraded housings at all. Hexon Racing is doing blades and housings so should be able to pick more hp. Can't wait to see how they perform.

Been following that thread all day to see exactly what's been done to the turbos.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Island Road

Sent this to Z when it first came out. I was like holy shit my thoughts exactly no ST even needed. Also I don't believe they even upgraded housings at all. Hexon Racing is doing blades and housings so should be able to pick more hp. Can't wait to see how they perform.

Been following that thread all day to see exactly what's been done to the turbos.

It would be interesting to know what was done I agree. I would really like to see a 3rd or 4th vendor for stock frame upgrades.

I like how Vargas is all over the thread and making it seem like this is nothing new and he already had plans to make the turbos better. Really guy? 1st batch didn't perform, 2nd batch is basically a copy of RBs with upgraded thrusts and options for billet wheels(which are unneeded imo).

I think I would still want an ST just for the HP bragging rights and to keep up with a certain supra I know...but 600/600 with near instant spool would be more fun to drive I bet. Talk about a sleeper.

[zero2sixtyZ]

Originally Posted by Torgus

I think I would still want an ST just for the HP bragging rights and to keep up with a certain supra I know...but 600/600 with near instant spool would be more fun to drive I bet. Talk about a sleeper.

You won't be able to.

Saw him at the last cars and coffee. That thing is a beast. 720whp on E85? Ugh it's gorgeous.

[dwells]

Originally Posted by Boston335xi

How much e85 did you add to the first tank?

Based on the baby bottle test the E85 was 75% ethanol (odd, I thought it was 85% this time of year). So I added five gallons of E75 and eleven gallons of 93 octane, which should've yielded about 30% ethanol overall and around 97 octane.

Still gotta figure out where to do my data logging. Ugh.

I was out in the Southwest a week or two ago on vacation and the roads out there are absolutely amazing. I was in the desert out by the mountains, and it's just unbelievably beautiful. There's these little to no traffic roads that go from winding, hilly sections to endless visibility straights. I saw a guy out there with an Exige, pretty much the perfect car for the situation. I'll have to go back sometime just to drive.

[Boston335xi]

Originally Posted by dwells

Based on the baby bottle test the E85 was 75% ethanol (odd, I thought it was 85% this time of year). So I added five gallons of E75 and eleven gallons of 93 octane, which should've yielded about 30% ethanol overall and around 97 octane.

Still gotta figure out where to do my data logging. Ugh.

I was out in the Southwest a week or two ago on vacation and the roads out there are absolutely amazing. I was in the desert out by the mountains, and it's just unbelievably beautiful. There's these little to no traffic roads that go from winding, hilly sections to endless visibility straights. I saw a guy out there with an Exige, pretty much the perfect car for the situation. I'll have to go back sometime just to drive.

I think you may have added a little too much e85 off the get go. When I run ethanol I do 3.5 gallons to start on the first tank and then increase it by small amounts to 5.

Try it again with adding only 3.5 and see if it does the same thing.

I'll sometimes run regular for a couple of tanks to give it a break, but when I put too much ethanol in off the bat, the car acts up as well. Might be what you experienced as well.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

You won't be able to.

Saw him at the last cars and coffee. That thing is a beast. 720whp on E85? Ugh it's gorgeous.

I was going to caravan with him to that C&C but he was leaving at like 7:30am.

It's nice how he hasn't riced the car out at all. Super clean. That thing must be a beast. Stock they weigh 3,417 lb which isn't too far off from us we are just north of 3500 so roughly a 100lb difference which is what like 25whp using bench racer math? Full E85 a ST N54 should be able to hang but obviously the 2jz motor has alot more potential given you can increase the displacement etc.



It's kind of a shame about the 1/4 rules. He can't run it more than once unless he cages it. A cage seems to take away from it being a awesomely fast street car to suddenly 'race cah'


@Island Road Does Hexon do the same thing that VTT does and that is using the TD03 center section and thus the TD03 interface flange? This makes things much cheaper to produce, but you lose the flexibility that having a TRUE TD04 adapted (such as RB's and Turbo Dynamics) interface and new TD04 center sections. Just curious. Also, when the hell are those things going to be for sale?