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      03-03-2023, 10:58 AM   #1431
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I don’t hate electric vehicles at all. I think they’re bad ass. I think Tesla and Elon musk are bad ass. Always have. I mean I do think Teslas are ugly but I also think I’m in the minority on that. And what I hate with an extreme passion and you seem to love is that the only reason electric vehicles besides Tesla are picking up steam is because it’s being forced on the world population by laws. I do hate that. You love it. That’s the difference.
As the technology improves, I’m sure I’ll buy one. More than likely it will be a BMW or a Porsche but I’m sure I’ll get one. Not because I’m forced to because I want to.
Bro your tune in this post is so opposite of your other posts regarding this subject.

When you post, and by you I mean everyone involved that’s against ev, are just creating aimless logic that will make it seem like this won’t happen.

I’m not saying ev and it’s “forced” date is right. I’m not saying ev is better for the environment. I already said I don’t give 2 shits about the environment. I had countless catless cars in the past. Polluting the air like no tomorrow. I don’t give a fuck about the air.

I’m just saying if they have something set in place, instead of bitching, think about the positives of it and not worry about all the negatives. If you had an opportunity to make a change then do so. Will it work? Probably not but at least you’re trying.

But in the meantime as you’re waiting for this “backfire” about ev that won’t happen, think of ways you can benefit from this. Have your awesome ice cars for the weekend and get a badass fast ev for your daily commute.

Imagine having your 700whp m3 on the weekend and driving something as fast as a plaid Monday - Friday.


Sounds like a win win for the future.
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I’m just saying if they have something set in place, instead of bitching, think about the positives of it and not worry about all the negatives. If you had an opportunity to make a change then do so. Will it work? Probably not but at least you’re trying.
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You sound like the kind of guy that should stand in line at the slaughter house calming the crowd down on the way to their fate.

Said to the cow in front of you : “ look on the bright side, everyone loves hamburgers”.
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      03-03-2023, 01:46 PM   #1434
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You sound like the kind of guy that should stand in line at the slaughter house calming the crowd down on the way to their fate.

Said to the cow in front of you : “ look on the bright side, everyone loves hamburgers”.
I mean to be fair you’re probably right lmaoooo
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Bro your tune in this post is so opposite of your other posts regarding this subject.

When you post, and by you I mean everyone involved that’s against ev, are just creating aimless logic that will make it seem like this won’t happen.

I’m not saying ev and it’s “forced” date is right. I’m not saying ev is better for the environment. I already said I don’t give 2 shits about the environment. I had countless catless cars in the past. Polluting the air like no tomorrow. I don’t give a fuck about the air.

I’m just saying if they have something set in place, instead of bitching, think about the positives of it and not worry about all the negatives. If you had an opportunity to make a change then do so. Will it work? Probably not but at least you’re trying.

But in the meantime as you’re waiting for this “backfire” about ev that won’t happen, think of ways you can benefit from this. Have your awesome ice cars for the weekend and get a badass fast ev for your daily commute.

Imagine having your 700whp m3 on the weekend and driving something as fast as a plaid Monday - Friday.


Sounds like a win win for the future.
Imagine only being able to afford one car, but you don’t want an EV, whether it be because of preference or it not fitting your lifestyle?
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Imagine only being able to afford one car, but you don’t want an EV, whether it be because of preference or it not fitting your lifestyle?
What percentage of the population can't afford a new car, ever? They always buy used, and the prospect of a used EV with the ticking time bomb of a battery replacement is not something I'd want to contemplate. But hey, some people think the government knows what's best for us.
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      03-03-2023, 05:29 PM   #1437
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Imagine only being able to afford one car, but you don’t want an EV, whether it be because of preference or it not fitting your lifestyle?

So you're saying by the year 2035 comes, they won't make even more affordable EV's?

Where are you making this assumption from?

Because you're seeing 50-60K tesla's and EV6's and plaids and taycans for 100+k?

You just proved my point that the mentality you guys have are based on events happening TODAY.

Every year this is getting better. However you want to think or assume about the infrastructure, or the grid, or charging capabilities or electrical fires happening at home is all nonsense.

We went from horses to cars and people thought that wouldn't work out.

We went from carbs to fuel injection and people thought that wouldn't work out.

We went from PURE ICE to hybrids and people thought that wouldn't work out.

Again i already agreed and said the whole "set date" on this thing isn't right. But we're here and the date is set so what are you guys really complaining about? Like really?

Your complaining is the equivalent of an NBA referee giving a technical foul on a player and that player gets mad and throws a tantrum like a baby, throws a fit, curses the ref and gets ejected from the game. What good did that do him? NOTHING.

Same principle here. It's already set in stone. Either deal with it or don't own a car in the future.
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Either deal with it or don't own a car in the future.
This is exactly the ultimatum that is pissing people off. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.
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So you're saying by the year 2035 comes, they won't make even more affordable EV's?
If I believed what I was told by the experts, I'd believe that EV replacement batteries would cost $2000-$4000 today, not the actual cost of $15,000-$25,000 (or more). The old "it will get cheaper" just hasn't panned out.

Blue sky Predictions < actual reality.

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Every year this is getting better. However you want to think or assume about the infrastructure, or the grid, or charging capabilities or electrical fires happening at home is all nonsense.
Not if you know how this shit works.

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Same principle here. It's already set in stone. Either deal with it or don't own a car in the future.
So where the various fuel MPG requirements. You know, the ones that kept getting kicked down the road and changed. The old stones were thrown out and new ones engraved.
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This is exactly the ultimatum that is pissing people off. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.
When the Soylent green EV company releases their first model, he will be an early adopter, and staunch advocate.

He's also heavily invested in Brawndo, because plants crave electrolytes.
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This is exactly the ultimatum that is pissing people off. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.
Awwwww then too fucking bad lmaooo
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Awwwww then too fucking bad lmaooo
You asked why people were complaining, I answered. You’re such a child it’s sad. Amazing that adults like you exist in the real world. Can’t imagine you in real professional environment. Your social skills haven’t advanced past middle school.
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You asked why people were complaining, I answered. You’re such a child it’s sad. Amazing that adults like you exist in the real world. Can’t imagine you in real professional environment. Your social skills haven’t advanced past middle school.
And you break down emotionally like a 16 year old girl.

I guess you're a child as well.
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And you break down emotionally like a 16 year old girl.

I guess you're a child as well.
Mate. Do us a favour and go on another thread !!
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Found another clip of Germany's important decision on the 2035 ICE EU mandate.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...s-2035-ice-ban
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Mate. Do us a favour and go on another thread !!
Nah i'm good mate.

This is an open discussion. Not a protest that only whiners can participate in

Plus i like watching everyone break down and cry while they basically wait for the inevitable to happen anyway lmaoooo
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And you break down emotionally like a 16 year old girl.

I guess you're a child as well.
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Every way I try to slice it. Running a 2023 Honda Accord LX to 100,000 miles and a Tesla Model 3 RWD (the slow one), the Honda still nets $4,200 less in total cost of ownership (purchase, fuel, maintenance). That includes $2,800 in maintenance* for the Honda. For $4,200 less cost, I'd pick the Honda with zero range anxiety and 5-minute road trip recharging.

*Engine Maintenace and oil $1,950
Driveline juices $250
Brakes $600 (assumes the Model 3 doesn't need brakes within 100,000 miles)
Assumes Model 3 requires $0 maintenance and both cars use tires at the same rate.
Tesla EV has same brakes, discs and pads and as heavier car with the batteries there is more wear on them so must require more maintenance and replacement and I heard servicing on them is expensive, need to discharge to work safely on them.

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Tesla EV has same brakes, discs and pads and as heavier car with the batteries there is more wear on them so must require more maintenance and replacement and I heard servicing on them is expensive, need to discharge to work safely on them.
You can probably get 100k on same brakes on Tesla if you use regen
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The delusion of the brainwashed EV fanboys is comical. Please keep going, it’s highly entertaining.
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The delusion of the brainwashed EV fanboys is comical. Please keep going, it’s highly entertaining.
And the people constantly living in fear of EVs is equally entertaining.
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