PPK Flash every n55 Needs it!!

JJaber · 10-16-2016, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8

If you have the skills and the hardware, you can do it for free. Or you can get the full PPK2 package from BMW. I think I paid my local coder $75.00 for it and the Alpina trans tune.

Noob comment and i'll probably look into this further - what's the advantages/disadvantages with the Alpina trans tune?

Also, is the PPK2 fan needed?

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 10-16-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JJaber

Noob comment and i'll probably look into this further - what's the advantages/disadvantages with the Alpina trans tune?

Also, is the PPK2 fan needed?

Advantages: Rev matching during shifting, smoother shifting, view your actual gear, shifts at higher RPMs in sport and manual modes.

Disadvantages: Shifts quickly in drive mode (6th at 40 mph).

The fan isn't required; however, you will run "slightly" higher temps than a set up without one. Definitely not outside the safe operating temp for daily driving though.

nOEMm · 10-21-2016, 06:22 PM

Is the PPK flash anonymous like Cobb on your ECU? What im getting at: is there any worry about the PPK (software only) voiding a CPO warranty??

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 10-21-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nOEMm

Is the PPK flash anonymous like Cobb on your ECU? What im getting at: is there any worry about the PPK (software only) voiding a CPO warranty??

No, because this a BMW software version that's installed onto your DME. The dealer knows what software version is installed every time you take the car there. So, if they look back through BMW service records and see that PPK was not installed by a BMW licensed service center, they could "potentially" cause an issue.

Now, the fact that it's BMW software, it's developed/tested by BMW, pretty much all the bugs/kinks are worked out of the current version. There are many members running the "self-flashed" PPK with no reliability issues (that I know of).

So, voiding a CPO warranty, potentially... But, that's the risk anyone takes when modding a car outside of the BMW service center.

With the other flash/device tunes, they don't change the software version like the PPK. So on the surface, an average individual would never know you have a tune. But, BMW also has the ability to trace down any changes to the DME tables (which is what those flash tunes do). But, at that point, you'd most likely be in the middle of trying to make an engine warranty claim and BMW trying to do some extensive research why you had a rod go through the side of the block.

Nick.bmw · 11-26-2016, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AJF80

I want to get this done so bad! Anyone know someone that has a 2013 N55 that this worked on? I think there was 1 or 2 people on the forums that said this has worked on their car and they just got there DME updated by the dealer to the most recent version.

I talked to Joe @ top Gear and he wasn't too sure if I should try it.

Any insight..?

Hey man ...I did get the ppk on my 2013 335i N55 ...The main reason I went for it because I am still under BMW warranty and it seemed like a safe option

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 11-27-2016, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick.bmw

Hey man ...I did get the ppk on my 2013 335i N55 ...The main reason I went for it because I am still under BMW warranty and it seemed like a safe option

Did someone flash it or BMW, and what's your manufacture date?

YasF80_SLO · 11-30-2016, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AJF80

I want to get this done so bad! Anyone know someone that has a 2013 N55 that this worked on? I think there was 1 or 2 people on the forums that said this has worked on their car and they just got there DME updated by the dealer to the most recent version.

I talked to Joe @ top Gear and he wasn't too sure if I should try it.

Any insight..?

I have the PPK on my 2013 e92 335i with the n55, no issues, and works with JB4 flawlessly.

AJF80 · 11-30-2016, 06:54 AM

Thanks guys for the continuous feedback! This is why I love this forum.

Too bad I sold my 335i..... but I got an F80 M3

JJaber · 11-30-2016, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013_E92

I have the PPK on my 2013 e92 335i with the n55, no issues, and works with JB4 flawlessly.

Whats the difference between the 2013 N55 and the others? I thought they were all the same from 2011-2013 in the E92

YasF80_SLO · 11-30-2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JJaber

Whats the difference between the 2013 N55 and the others? I thought they were all the same from 2011-2013 in the E92

After 2012 there is a new DME unit that bmw started using if im not mistaken, this is what makes it harder to flash or remote code them, you check which DME you have, if you take a look at the MHD/Wedge Perf thread someone over there mentioned the differences, saying that 2013, needs bench flashing of the DME (Physically taking it out of the ECU box to flash it first), 2012 its a maybe, and 2011 you can flash with a cable whenever.

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 11-30-2016, 06:52 PM

02/2012 and older N55s have MEVD17, while newer ones have MEVD172* variants that require dealer involvement to properly install the PPK.

Nick.bmw · 12-01-2016, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe@TopGearSolutions

Did someone flash it or BMW, and what's your manufacture date?

Not sure of the date ...But its a 2013 model ..last of the e92 with the updated DME..apparently the flash cannot be done via remote access.
I got it flashed by BMW

gixracer · 12-02-2016, 03:45 PM

Finally got my n55 E91 working properly. the difference from a stock tuned dme vs the PPK is very noticeable. I would recommend getting it done. There was a bit of moisture out last night but the car definitely has bigger stones than before

MHD Tuning · 12-07-2016, 10:48 AM

Models built pre 03-2012 can already enjoy the ppk burble with more power and torque through MHD, and models build post 03-2012 will be supported very soon too.

mo0di · 12-29-2016, 06:32 PM

mo0di · 12-29-2016, 06:36 PM

ANMVQ · 12-30-2016, 07:39 AM

I've been driving on my PPK for two weeks now and love it. The throttle response is great! Joe was great for this! I also did the Alpina flash at the same time, car is way different to drive

. Will be stacking my plug and play JB4 STG1 next week with this. An was told it will add 3+ the PPK PSI, which i think is 10 PSI?

unrulyteach · 02-28-2018, 04:23 PM

Any know how to fi the right zusb? I hav a 2011 e90 335 AT

AJL · 03-01-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by unrulyteach

Any know how to fi the right zusb? I hav a 2011 e90 335 AT

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31885

RBGodZilla · 04-16-2018, 07:58 PM

What means '' Dont flash if your car is after 2013 or got Update by Dealer after 07/2012! ''
I have a 2011 E90, but got my ECU reflash by the dealer last year for some work done on my fuel pump... Does it mean I can't flash it?

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 04-16-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RBGodZilla

What means '' Dont flash if your car is after 2013 or got Update by Dealer after 07/2012! ''
I have a 2011 E90, but got my ECU reflash by the dealer last year for some work done on my fuel pump... Does it mean I can't flash it?

That's old information prior to software numbers being traced through updated DATENs.

Right now, the only limitation is that cars produced 2/29/2012 or newer requires the FSC from the dealer.

However, if all you need to do is fix surging issues, you can update your DME with the last OEM software version with no issues.

M4 AJG · 04-19-2018, 05:05 AM

i just changed my battery and the burbles aren't as loud as they used to be. Anyone else experienced this?

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