[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by AJ@ESS

I went in to update the thread with the free available N51 update after installing the updated part on Tom's car and hearing his opinion.

Arguing with people like you is unfortunately counter productive, so that I will refrain from. Instead we will deal with the proper authorities when it comes to your continued threats and unacceptable behavior.

I consider this thread closed from our perspective at this point. Anyone have any questions on N51/52 kits feel free to email us.

Have your attorney contact my attorney.

For all who read this exchange on this forum - businesses can resorts to legal threats and intimidation tactics when subjective feedback and the exchange of information is not to their liking.

The fact a response to my comments was made only validates the original exchange and issues I faced.

Google SLAPP.

Use extreme caution when doing business with companies who utilize these behaviors and resort to this level.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

I did.

nice, what was the change in peak boost? did you dyno the new pulley yet?

[Hobbs64]

Wow, this turned into a juvenile exchange. Isn't it counter-productive to attempt to run off the vendors designing parts for these cars? Seems like you would want to work with them as opposed running down on eof the very few forced induction options for N52! Just my .02 worth!

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Torgus

nice, what was the change in peak boost? did you dyno the new pulley yet?

I have not yet....only using this pulley for air strip days at 3,500 feet or higher. Next one isn't until May 2017....

[PhaseP]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

For all who read this exchange on this forum - businesses can resorts to legal threats and intimidation tactics when subjective feedback and the exchange of information is not to their liking.

So basically you tried to order from them a part that they refused to sell you to protect themselves and you. Then you got really upset, how come they can refuse you, harassed them about it and threatened that you will go online and complain about them. And still going on about it here and there.

This is your first post on it that you mentioned you posted on bimmerpost:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1267813

Nice of you that you are not mentioning you asked them to buy a part that wasn't for the kit you owned, and why they refused to sell it.

And this has been ESS's response there:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=67

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by PhaseP

So basically you tried to order from them a part that they refused to sell you to protect themselves and you. Then you got really upset, how come they can refuse you, harassed them about it and threatened that you will go online and complain about them. And still going on about it here and there.

This is your first post on it that you mentioned you posted on bimmerpost:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1267813

Nice of you that you are not mentioning you asked them to buy a part that wasn't for the kit you owned, and why they refused to sell it.

And this has been ESS's response there:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...p;postcount=67

I stand by my comments.

Any company can refuse to sell their product, to any one. That's not questioned.

How a company treats people who have bought their product before (tune), and who are offering to buy an off the shelf product, and then receive the threat of legal action to prevent comments about very poor customer service - before any comments actually exist - is not the type of company I'll do business with in the future.

[CobraMarty]

Just have a pulley made if that is what you want.

[NYBulldog]

Well Tom I think your thread has gone in a completely different direction. Let's get back ON TOPIC.

Any more feedback after your new inlet? Mine is getting sent today.

[gunnerxq]

Any updates? Can someone get us a collection of Dynos and 0-60 pulls?

[Eagle1oh7]

Originally Posted by gunnerxq

Any updates? Can someone get us a collection of Dynos and 0-60 pulls?

I think many of us have given up on that kind of data. Best to let this thread die.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by gunnerxq

Any updates? Can someone get us a collection of Dynos and 0-60 pulls?

You paying?

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

You paying?

Don't you want to know for yourself?

[n55jb4]

Originally Posted by Tom Droze

ESS Super Charger Update... I am done! Continuous check engine lights, Idle hunting and stalling, hesitation and stalling as I try to accelerate from a stop. I am taking my car back to the shop on Monday to have my new fuel pump replaced under warranty because of a bad sending unit and I am having the supercharger removed. I will be have approximately $1,400 in labor for the supercharger install and removal, which I will attempt to recoup from ESS Tuning. And yes, I am F'n pissed off, as the hesitation and stalling has almost resulted in two accidents.


Update 09/19/2016:After the post above and the subsequent posts that have followed, including being contacted by AJ from ESS Tuning, here is an update as to the status of the ESS supercharger. The CEL I was getting had to do with the O2 sensors responding slowly. AJ believed this was a result of the increased turbulence in the intake tube as a result of the boost being generated by the supercharger, and the MAF sensor not being able to handle the increased intake turbulence. ESS had already designed a new intake tube with a baffle inside the intake tube to shield the MAF sensor but the newly designed intake tube was in Noraway, so AJ had the intake tube and a new MAF sensor overnighted to Arizona. This newly designed intake tube is for the N51 since the tune for the supercharger for the N51 continues to utilize the MAF sensor where the tune for the N52 does not. After having the new intake tube and MAF sensor installed one week ago, the car has been running very well. I just completed a 600 mile road trip from Phoenix to Las Vegas and back and the car ran very good. The idle is much more stable now with only an occasional minor dip in RPM. When AJ installed the new intake tube he tested my throttle body, which is a redundant back up on our cars in case of valvetronic failure; and he said mine is not working, and he recommended I replace it at some point. AJ said he's discovering a faulty throttle body this is fairly commonplace. Please remember, the tune for the N52 will utilize the throttle body full time whereas the tune for the N51 does not, with the possible exception of some low speed idle transition.

Also, because my car, with the N51, utilizes the MAF sensor, I am not able to run the smaller 115 MM pulley because the MAF sensor is at its air flow limit with the 120 MM pulley. The difference between the two pulleys is about 20 horsepower.

While this endeavor was very frustrating for me, including having issues with the new fuel pump installation and a new car battery that were not directly related to the supercharger itself, they would not have happened if I did not have the supercharger installed, and added significantly to my overall frustration.

Now that the tuning issues appear to be behind me (knock on wood), I love the way the car runs, especially above 3,000 RPM. I'm hoping to be able to do my post supercharger zero to 60 run now that the tuning issues have been resolved.

Also, I want to say the concern and customer service provided by ESS Tuning have been outstanding once they became aware of my tuning issues.

Please do when you have chance, I'm sure many people want to know too

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Don't you want to know for yourself?

Honestly, not really. Don't have the time, or money.

[Eagle1oh7]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

Honestly, not really. Don't have the time, or money.

Cop out.

[JuniorB]

Tom, I have a question regarding what's been going on, being that this kit was the first boost offering for the n52, we know now this motor is capable of 400 with ease, yet it's just at the 300hp mark. So now it goes from na to a boosted car, since it runs a maf sensor for na cars, why wouldn't you change the intake from a n54 and run a map sensor since it's looking for boost now? I know it's a low boost number, but doesn't a boost controller have better control than a maf sensor with a bunch of crammed air going into the motor? We've seen what goes into a turbo kit for this, same principle being it's still forced air before the intake. Maybe this doesn't make sence for this set up, and that you have a n51 motor,, but this kit has so much potential, why not utilize it? I thought a car need to read the incoming air to adjust for its parameters , what are you gaining if it's being eliminated? Thanks for listening and would like to see if you thought about doing some modification yourself.

[Eagle1oh7]

Originally Posted by JuniorB

Tom, I have a question regarding what's been going on, being that this kit was the first boost offering for the n52, we know now this motor is capable of 400 with ease, yet it's just at the 300hp mark. So now it goes from na to a boosted car, since it runs a maf sensor for na cars, why wouldn't you change the intake from a n54 and run a map sensor since it's looking for boost now? I know it's a low boost number, but doesn't a boost controller have better control than a maf sensor with a bunch of crammed air going into the motor? We've seen what goes into a turbo kit for this, same principle being it's still forced air before the intake. Maybe this doesn't make sence for this set up, and that you have a n51 motor,, but this kit has so much potential, why not utilize it? I thought a car need to read the incoming air to adjust for its parameters , what are you gaining if it's being eliminated? Thanks for listening and would like to see if you thought about doing some modification yourself.

ESS apparently hasn't done destructive testing or anything else to find out how much power they can make. You can't even run this SC with headers for starters. Why do you think this thread has been silent? Especially from the guys that bought it and installed it since last year? They probably uninstalled it silently and went into the shadows because I don't buy the "I don't have time to dyno/0-60" or whatever reason to show the effectiveness of the kit unlike other guys who are FBO and have.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by Eagle1oh7

ESS apparently hasn't done destructive testing or anything else to find out how much power they can make. You can't even run this SC with headers for starters. Why do you think this thread has been silent? Especially from the guys that bought it and installed it since last year? They probably uninstalled it silently and went into the shadows because I don't buy the "I don't have time to dyno/0-60" or whatever reason to show the effectiveness of the kit unlike other guys who are FBO and have.

Damn bro, hate much? I already said if you paid for it I would do it. I can feel the car is a lot faster, even more when I put on the smaller pulley. Obviously not as fast as the turbod 328, but it's better than "FBO"

[rick100]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

Damn bro, hate much? I already said if you paid for it I would do it. I can feel the car is a lot faster, even more when I put on the smaller pulley. Obviously not as fast as the turbod 328, but it's better than "FBO"

What do you mean pay for it? Like the gas you ll be paying to do a pull

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by rick100

What do you mean pay for it? Like the gas you ll be paying to do a pull

The last place I went to charge 20 bucks a pull and had to do at least 3 pulls

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

The last place I went to charge 20 bucks a pull and had to do at least 3 pulls

That is really cheap fwiw. Given how long it takes to strap it down correctly and get the rpm pickup etc. Usually even dyno days are more expensive than $60 bucks.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by Torgus

That is really cheap fwiw. Given how long it takes to strap it down correctly and get the rpm pickup etc. Usually even dyno days are more expensive than $60 bucks.

The last time I went there it was a dyno day and it was 20 for 3 runs. But they only do it like quarterly.