[rjahl]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

Haven't gotten the tuned file back ... the initial download to the MyGenius handheld took dead on 1 hour.

Cool ... thanks for the info. For the upload I won't worry about using the charger (but still might because I'm a huge Worry-Wart)

If you are flashing anything longer than 10 minutes, it's best to have a charger or do something to mitigate the power drain on the battery. Pulling the fuel pump fuse is one trick I've heard of.

Hass is correct, it's terribly difficult to crash the DME but it it's not that hard to place the DME into a mode that the Winfkp "comfort mode" can not fix. In those cases, you need Winfkp "Expert" mode and that gets just a little harder. It's easier now, but when It happened to me, Winfkp was only in German and there were no guides to fix the issue.

[Bob@BPC]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

Haven't gotten the tuned file back ... the initial download to the MyGenius handheld took dead on 1 hour.

Cool ... thanks for the info. For the upload I won't worry about using the charger (but still might because I'm a huge Worry-Wart)

We recommend the charger, it takes around 15mins or so to flash the file. Make sure to follow the instructions on the device and when flashing, please make sure not to open or close the doors or mess anything with the car.

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

I did a full flash on a 328xi and it only took ~15 minutes. No charger was needed. How long did yours take?

Flashed the tune today ... it took about 20 minutes each time.

(I say each time because I started the car too quick after the initial flash, so it didn't account for the adaptations properly [Throttle Valve P1632 and P1417 codes ... the installer installed the throttle body that came with my 3IM ... not my stock one]. I tried reflashing the tune ... ended up having to flash back to stock ... then flash the tune again. I did get a U0100 Lost Communication with ECM/PCM code each time I flashed the ECU. It was a bit difficult to clear the U0100 code after the tune flash ... it took a couple of tries, and a couple of restarts for it to clear. So far clear of lights ... no other codes yet. I've restarted the car a few times, and a 20 minute drive in traffic. One thing this whole ordeal tells me is to Invest in a Code Reader. I had to go to Autozone and Advanced Auto between the stock and tune reflashes. At least the folks at Autozone were cool enough to just hand me the reader so I could clear the codes myself ... Advanced Auto said they're not allowed to do that and wouldn't let me do it myself.

One thing I found weird ... When I was running the BPC Tune, if the car was running while the code reader was reading, the car would shut itself off. It only worked if the car wasn't running, but with the dash on. That wasn't the issue when I was running stock tune, it read either way. I'm hoping that the U0100 code doesn't present itself again later in the future ... but from what I've read ... the code sometimes presents itself as more of a "generic" code when it's not really the ECM/PCM that's the issue.

I will have to say ... Bob @ BPC is quite helpful ... thanks Bob!).

In a few days .... I'll write up a full review and any issues with the 3IM install and BPC tune in a separate thread.

[Jbwcfp]

Originally Posted by Zajac1

yes I'm. Please send me some pics of manifold at zajkowski87@gmail.com

Sorry, trash collection picked it up before I got your message.

[W37V]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

Flashed the tune today ... it took about 20 minutes each time.

(I say each time because I started the car too quick after the initial flash, so it didn't account for the adaptations properly [Throttle Valve P1632 and P1417 codes ... the installer installed the throttle body that came with my 3IM ... not my stock one]. I tried reflashing the tune ... ended up having to flash back to stock ... then flash the tune again. I did get a U0100 Lost Communication with ECM/PCM code each time I flashed the ECU. It was a bit difficult to clear the U0100 code after the tune flash ... it took a couple of tries, and a couple of restarts for it to clear. So far clear of lights ... no other codes yet. I've restarted the car a few times, and a 20 minute drive in traffic. One thing this whole ordeal tells me is to Invest in a Code Reader. I had to go to Autozone and Advanced Auto between the stock and tune reflashes. At least the folks at Autozone were cool enough to just hand me the reader so I could clear the codes myself ... Advanced Auto said they're not allowed to do that and wouldn't let me do it myself.

One thing I found weird ... When I was running the BPC Tune, if the car was running while the code reader was reading, the car would shut itself off. It only worked if the car wasn't running, but with the dash on. That wasn't the issue when I was running stock tune, it read either way. I'm hoping that the U0100 code doesn't present itself again later in the future ... but from what I've read ... the code sometimes presents itself as more of a "generic" code when it's not really the ECM/PCM that's the issue.

I will have to say ... Bob @ BPC is quite helpful ... thanks Bob!).

In a few days .... I'll write up a full review and any issues with the 3IM install and BPC tune in a separate thread.

Get Carly for BMW app and their dongle. It's an app that works on iOS or android. It can read all codes (including shadow codes), parimiters (including emissions), allows for code clearing, light coding etc. it's super convenient. App and dongle is about $100.

The other option is to get a cable ($40) and install free software on your comp.

Generic code readers are almost pointless for our cars as they can't read shadow codes or clear them.

[Zajac1]

Originally Posted by Jbwcfp

Sorry, trash collection picked it up before I got your message.

to bad

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by W37V

Get Carly for BMW app and their dongle. It's an app that works on iOS or android. It can read all codes (including shadow codes), parimiters (including emissions), allows for code clearing, light coding etc. it's super convenient. App and dongle is about $100.

The other option is to get a cable ($40) and install free software on your comp.

Generic code readers are almost pointless for our cars as they can't read shadow codes or clear them.

I'm familiar with them (as a code reading product) but am on the fence regarding an App Reader or a regular handheld device. At the moment I'm leaning towards a Foxwell reader that registers batteries too. When I'm more familiar with codes and such ... I'll get with BimmerGeeks.


Can Carly read codes without the engine running, but with the dash on?
The reason I ask is I had issues code reading with the engine running with the BPC tune flashed. The car shuts itself off within a 5 or so seconds of scanning.



Has anyone had this happen when reading their BPC tuned n52. I'm wondering if it's because of my software version (car assembled in 07/07).

[W37V]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

I'm familiar with them (as a code reading product) but am on the fence regarding an App Reader or a regular handheld device. At the moment I'm leaning towards a Foxwell reader that registers batteries too. When I'm more familiar with codes and such ... I'll get with BimmerGeeks.


Can Carly read codes without the engine running, but with the dash on?
The reason I ask is I had issues code reading with the engine running with the BPC tune flashed. The car shuts itself off within a 5 or so seconds of scanning.



Has anyone had this happen when reading their BPC tuned n52. I'm wondering if it's because of my software version (car assembled in 07/07).

I have BPC tune. Never had issue you mentioned and I scanned the car many times since I got the tune.

Carly does NOT need engine running to scan for codes. It works just as fine. I used it in both situations. Never had an issue (knock on wood).

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by John@BPC

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2. Rick328
3. ddanJ
4. 2006E85
5. PKumarM3
6. Michaellcoates
7. E91 Swagger
8. jdspeed99z
9. Jbwcfp
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How many of us from the list has installed their tune?
I know I'm going to review it in another few days or so ... and I do believe there was 1 other person has ... I'm curious what others though about the tune ... especially people with Manual transmissions vs Automatic.

[BlueM3Wagon]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

How many of us from the list has installed their tune?
I know I'm going to review it in another few days or so ... and I do believe there was 1 other person has ... I'm curious what others though about the tune ... especially people with Manual transmissions vs Automatic.

I was late to the game, tuner is being shipped as we speak!

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

How many of us from the list has installed their tune?
I know I'm going to review it in another few days or so ... and I do believe there was 1 other person has ... I'm curious what others though about the tune ... especially people with Manual transmissions vs Automatic.

Add to the questions,

How many of the automatics upgraded their transmission tune to the 330 version?

[2006E85]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

How many of us from the list has installed their tune?
I know I'm going to review it in another few days or so ... and I do believe there was 1 other person has ... I'm curious what others though about the tune ... especially people with Manual transmissions vs Automatic.

I have it, I have not reviewed yet, since I am awaiting a reply from BPC on my last dyno pull.

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by 2006E85

I have it, I have not reviewed yet, since I am awaiting a reply from BPC on my last dyno pull.

Sounds curious ... I look forward to reading the review when things are sorted.

[Biginboca]

I just ordered the tune today. I saw this question asked but never answered...

Can't you just run a jumper cable to another car (or idling car) instead of buying a charger to use once for a flash?

[W37V]

Originally Posted by Biginboca

I just ordered the tune today. I saw this question asked but never answered...

Can't you just run a jumper cable to another car (or idling car) instead of buying a charger to use once for a flash?

Reading the car takes about an hour. If reading stops, there is no harm to the car. Writing is about 10-15 min. that is the part you don't want to mess up. If you have even remotely decent battery, it should hold while you flash the car. as it will take few hours to get the tune back, just go for a longer drive while you wait.

Also, battery chargers are fairly cheap - $20-$30. Buy it from Walmart and once you are done, just return it.

[The-Traveler]

I'm sorry to ask this for the billionth time, but what can I really expect from this tune on the following car:

2006 330I
Dinan Exhaust (6hp they claim)
Charcoal delete & K&N.

I believe 22hp was the figure but I haven't really seen a 330I dyno to back this up.

Thanks.

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by The-Traveler

I'm sorry to ask this for the billionth time, but what can I really expect from this tune on the following car:

2006 330I
Dinan Exhaust (6hp they claim)
Charcoal delete & K&N.

I believe 22hp was the figure but I haven't really seen a 330I dyno to back this up.

Thanks.

BPC does show a dyno with a '06 330i manual - on their website ...

https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...i-n51-n52-tune

I'm under the impression that none of us have dyno'd a stock 330 or 328 (with 3IM) vs BPC Tuned that matter yet. But as far as "what to expect" ...

The quote below is regarding a 330 ... I believe many of us have 328i's with a 3IM swap ... so we're essentially going from a 328 to 330i that's "tuned" to what a 330i is with the tune. I'd guess regardless of going from a 328/330 or stock 330 ... most of us will basically agree with the following quote. (although I don't think mine is a "totally different car" ... but definitely much much better. I have an auto trans if that matters)



Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by jdspeed99z

Got my tune loaded on Monday . I had a few load errors and was sweating bullets but I just kept following the instructions on the handheld and it finally loaded on the 3rd try.

It is a totally different car. Not insane, but definitely much better. It should have came from the factory like this. Better throttle response, more power, no soft limiter,( I hated that).

Big thank you to BPC for their efforts with the tune, the quick turn around time, and for the discount.

Thanks!

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by Biginboca

I just ordered the tune today. I saw this question asked but never answered...

Can't you just run a jumper cable to another car (or idling car) instead of buying a charger to use once for a flash?

I wondered the same thing .... did a bit of Google research regarding the question ... never found anyone who's answered it. I'm guessing it would work in theory.

I used a battery charger for both the read and flash, figuring might as well be safe; it only takes a minute to hook up a charger. I did have issues during the flashing of the tune; so I had to try reflashing it ... when that didn't work, reflashed the stock tune in order to flash the tune again. Without a charger, I wouldn't have been able to flash tunes 3 times in a row. That would've sucked! It's frustrating enough dealing with issues, without having to deal with the battery situation too.

Originally Posted by W37V

Reading the car takes about an hour. If reading stops, there is no harm to the car. Writing is about 10-15 min. that is the part you don't want to mess up. If you have even remotely decent battery, it should hold while you flash the car. as it will take few hours to get the tune back, just go for a longer drive while you wait.

Also, battery chargers are fairly cheap - $20-$30. Buy it from Walmart and once you are done, just return it.

Agreed.

It took me pretty much dead on 1 hour to download my info to MyGenesis and 20 minutes to flash the tune (each time).

I bought my battery charger at Walmart with the intention to return it ... but decided to keep it. I paid $50 for an EverStart 25amp (got that many amps so can use it for my F350 diesel). You can get a charger with less amps cheaper, but was informed by BPC that at least a 15 amp unit is needed. I know my battery dropped 20% in the first minute and kept it steady throughout the process on a 25 amp quick charge.

[Biginboca]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

I wondered the same thing .... did a bit of Google research regarding the question ... never found anyone who's answered it. I'm guessing it would work in theory.

I used a battery charger for both the read and flash, figuring might as well be safe; it only takes a minute to hook up a charger. I did have issues during the flashing of the tune; so I had to try reflashing it ... when that didn't work, reflashed the stock tune in order to flash the tune again. Without a charger, I wouldn't have been able to flash tunes 3 times in a row. That would've sucked! It's frustrating enough dealing with issues, without having to deal with the battery situation too.





Agreed.

It took me pretty much dead on 1 hour to download my info to MyGenesis and 20 minutes to flash the tune (each time).

I bought my battery charger at Walmart with the intention to return it ... but decided to keep it. I paid $50 for an EverStart 25amp (got that many amps so can use it for my F350 diesel). You can get a charger with less amps cheaper, but was informed by BPC that at least a 15 amp unit is needed. I know my battery dropped 20% in the first minute and kept it steady throughout the process on a 25 amp quick charge.

Thanks for the reply. I purchased my e92 used and it's a 2009. The battery looks original and it doesn't start quickly it kind of chugs slowly so I'm thinking the battery is on the way out.

I have the Carly dongle on order but it won't arrive for a couple weeks, so getting a new battery is on hold.

My jeep has a brand new AGM battery so I'm going to just run some jumper cables from the 328i jumper post to my (non running) jeep and do the download like that. I can even disconnect the jumpers from the jumper post for 10 mins a few times while it's downloading. I don't feel right about buying a charger, using it, and returning it. In my mind that's stealing, but I realize others are comfortable with it and whatever. (And I don't want to buy a charger I'll only need once when I can just run jumper cables.)

[The-Traveler]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

Hope this helps.

Thank you.

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by Biginboca

Thanks for the reply. I purchased my e92 used and it's a 2009. The battery looks original and it doesn't start quickly it kind of chugs slowly so I'm thinking the battery is on the way out.

I have the Carly dongle on order but it won't arrive for a couple weeks, so getting a new battery is on hold.

My jeep has a brand new AGM battery so I'm going to just run some jumper cables from the 328i jumper post to my (non running) jeep and do the download like that. I can even disconnect the jumpers from the jumper post for 10 mins a few times while it's downloading. I don't feel right about buying a charger, using it, and returning it. In my mind that's stealing, but I realize others are comfortable with it and whatever. (And I don't want to buy a charger I'll only need once when I can just run jumper cables.)

Perhaps give BPC a call and see what they have to say about it. I typically have an alternate vehicle at my disposal so I'm interested to hear if attaching to another battery works. I was really on the fence about trying that, but decided to go the "sure thing" route.

Totally hear you about the charger thing ... they're not something most people will use on a regular basis, purchasing one can be considered wasteful.

[Biginboca]

Originally Posted by N52UNED

Perhaps give BPC a call and see what they have to say about it. I typically have an alternate vehicle at my disposal so I'm interested to hear if attaching to another battery works. I was really on the fence about trying that, but decided to go the "sure thing" route.

Totally hear you about the charger thing ... they're not something most people will use on a regular basis, purchasing one can be considered wasteful.

So to put this to rest... I emailed with BPC and they said using jumper cables to another rides battery is fine for when downloading and installing tunes.