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      06-22-2008, 06:54 PM   #133
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I have a question guys. I was trying to install the intake and according to the video and written instructions it says it makes the job easier if I take off the hvac filter,meaning I would have to take out the two panels on both sides, the sensors, wires, and the battery rail. All that seemed a little intimidating for me while the other steps seemed to be pretty easy. How much harder would it be if I did not remove all of those parts prior to disassembling the stock air intake? Is the only reason why they recommend taking out the hvac filter is to access the oem bracket? And if so, would I be able to use the screw drivers where you are able to bend to access tight spots? Any info would help. Thanks
the only thing i removed was the stock intake and the install went smoothly.
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      06-22-2008, 07:51 PM   #134
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I just installed mine today and it was a breeze. I did remove the rails along with the HVAC filter and its much easier to do that. I removed them as I was installing JB2H at the same time SO now I got the intake with JB2H and Rix boost gauge

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      06-22-2008, 08:12 PM   #135
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will I notice any power gain at all, or is this just gonna make some noise, my car is all stock
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      06-22-2008, 09:32 PM   #136
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will I notice any power gain at all, or is this just gonna make some noise, my car is all stock
it's gonna make a nice sound. that's why i got mine since i have no piggyback tunes in my car.
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      06-22-2008, 10:00 PM   #137
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will I notice any power gain at all, or is this just gonna make some noise, my car is all stock
I wouldn't buy it for the power bc ur not gonna notice any. The point is for the sound it makes..
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      06-23-2008, 01:43 AM   #138
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Just installed mine and I have a V3 as well. Sound is nice but honestly, my car feels a bit slower. It could be the extremely hot weather lately but the tires don't spin as easily anymore. Anyone else experience this? Do I need the V3 dual cone intake map that is on Vishnu's site to get any benfit?
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      06-23-2008, 02:16 AM   #139
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Open element filters + boost + heat = powerloss. Try at night when the temps are lower.
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      06-23-2008, 05:38 AM   #140
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You car should feel slower when you install it. The problem is your car will be getting much more air and the result is that it leans out for A/F ratio. It could cause the car to retard timing if it notices any knock. The bottom line is that the car will add more fuel to accomodate the increase amount of air you are now injesting and once the STFT's adjust then you will enjoy the power. After adapting, there is no doubt in my mind that the car has more power. Anyone that has riden in my car has the same opinion as well.
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You car should feel slower when you install it. The problem is your car will be getting much more air and the result is that it leans out for A/F ratio. It could cause the car to retard timing if it notices any knock. The bottom line is that the car will add more fuel to accomodate the increase amount of air you are now injesting and once the STFT's adjust then you will enjoy the power. After adapting, there is no doubt in my mind that the car has more power. Anyone that has riden in my car has the same opinion as well.
Thats an important point. The car needs time to adapt.

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      06-23-2008, 02:24 PM   #142
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You car should feel slower when you install it. The problem is your car will be getting much more air and the result is that it leans out for A/F ratio. It could cause the car to retard timing if it notices any knock. The bottom line is that the car will add more fuel to accomodate the increase amount of air you are now injesting and once the STFT's adjust then you will enjoy the power. After adapting, there is no doubt in my mind that the car has more power. Anyone that has riden in my car has the same opinion as well.
Got it. Thanks.
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      06-23-2008, 03:25 PM   #143
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so what about the 6-8WHP claims? that is only applicable for tuned cars?
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      06-23-2008, 03:29 PM   #144
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so what about the 6-8WHP claims? that is only applicable for tuned cars?
from what i read, yes. Unless you're putting out 340-350hp and above, the only benefit of the intake is the cool sound. I think just on the sound itself is worth the price plus the fact that in the future if you do decide on getting the tune, then you'll benefit even more b/c of the intake. I'll let the experts correct me if i'm wrong
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The benefits are definetly not earth shattering. From reading the various threads this is what I have been able to come up with in terms of discussion points about the dual cones.

Pros

1) better throttle response
2) high end power gains
3) awesome turbo sound
4) less work for the turbo to intake air as the restrictions are removed
5) Perhaps a few pounds in saved weight

Cons

1) Possible warranty issue
2) Hot air intake (this is really a sticking point for some as intuitively its bad but there is data out there that actual intake air temps are only marginally higher (post intercooler)

Anyone please feel free to edit or add to the list. I for one am a fan of the dual intake.

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      06-23-2008, 03:53 PM   #146
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just received mine and installed it.. just gave it a quick 10 minute test run...

used to have the single BMS intake

still need to give it some time for the car to adapt to the intake but it sounds great! the blow off sound is much louder than the single bms intake. as for the spooling.. it sounds pretty equivalent but well see how it sounds when my car adapts.

as for the install.. it fits pretty well actually... everything went right in.. it was wayyy easier to install than the single intake. it said you might have a hard time with limited space but i actually had a lot of space to install.
you missed the most important part.. how much faster or do you feel anything more then you did with the single bms intake? thanks
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Originally Posted by Mike07335i View Post
The benefits are definetly not earth shattering. From reading the various threads this is what I have been able to come up with in terms of discussion points about the dual cones.

Pros

1) better throttle response
2) high end power gains
3) awesome turbo sound
4) less work for the turbo to intake air as the restrictions are removed
5) Perhaps a few pounds in saved weight

Cons

1) Possible warranty issue
2) Hot air intake (this is really a sticking point for some as intuitively its bad but there is data out there that actual intake air temps are only marginally higher (post intercooler)

Anyone please feel free to edit or add to the list. I for one am a fan of the dual intake.

Mike
Great list. I also like the blow off sound you get. No need for a blow off valve anyway with this car, but with the dual cone intake you can hear that part of the stock system much better.
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      06-23-2008, 05:03 PM   #148
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i dont know if its just me... but it feels like the single bms intake has a louder spooling sound... the dual still has the spooling sound... not as loud, but does have a louder blow of sound.

anyone else experience both yet?
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      06-23-2008, 11:17 PM   #149
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fawk i cant get those 3 rubber grommets off! i'm getting angry.
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fawk i cant get those 3 rubber grommets off! i'm getting angry.
I started with the one in the back and used a flat head screw driver to gently pry it loose. Once that one was off I moved forward. I assume you took off the cowl to reach things better?
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      06-23-2008, 11:22 PM   #151
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I started with the one in the back and used a flat head screw driver to gently pry it loose. Once that one was off I moved forward. I assume you took off the cowl to reach things better?
no i didnt remove the cowel b/c a couple people said it wasnt necessary and i didnt want to mess with taking out the hvac filter, panels, fuse,hose, etc.. i got no leverage with a screwdriver. if i had a plier, which i dont for some stupid reason, i think i could jiggy it and pull it out. fawk!
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      06-23-2008, 11:23 PM   #152
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i almost got the first one out. i second one is a little loose and 3rd one is stuck like chuck
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Anyone with SSTT and this intake? The sound would be neat, but I'm really only interested if I will feel it with the butt dyno after adaptation..
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      06-24-2008, 12:57 AM   #154
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will this be a problem? I was not able to straighten out the bottom portion
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