Procede v4 CANbus love (pre-Beta maps/firmware available for private release)

AltecBX · 03-30-2010, 12:27 AM

Shiv said we'll have new maps by Wednesday. Lets wait for those as we probably will get new features he talked about.

ehssan_alkhiyami · 03-30-2010, 02:30 AM

Don't forget me this time Shiv please ...

pcmike · 03-30-2010, 04:16 AM

Here are some new logs I just did tonight... thoughts?

First: 20% UT, 75% IC, 40% FU2

Second: 40% UT, 50% IC, 40% FU2

EDIT: These graphs are still accurate, but I didn't log the proper ignition advance channel, will redo that tonight and post it up.

Chefcg1 · 03-30-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pcmike

Here are some new logs I just did tonight... thoughts?

First: 20% UT, 75% IC, 40% FU2

Second: 40% UT, 50% IC, 40% FU2

FYI: IGN ADV was logged and is actually plotted here in view4, but its just a completely flat line so you don't notice it.

you really need to log CAN act ign adv

prich2004 · 03-30-2010, 10:29 AM

What are the mods for the above logs? I'd like to see logs for a stg. 1 car On 93 oct. running 50% IC with the latest maps.

forza1976 · 03-30-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick.CBR

lol - I agree - but I'm honestly starting to think that Vishnu tells their customers to keep it really safe (which is a good idea). Stock cars seem to be able to handle "stage 2" with relitive ease. I think with 93 oct. I could go down to only 50% IC with no issues; however, it's going to start getting warm out here and I'm not willing to throw misfire CELs all the time

Nick

Unfortunately mine couldn't handle the 50% UT setting. Just above 6000 rpm I would get a "buck or hesitation" of the car and it would throw an SES light. Thoughts from vishnu were I was going beyond the WG duty cycle.

End of the day, me being at 5200 feet of elevation and no other performance mods, I simply shouldn't be running such a high UT. So back down to 30% UT and all is good. Did some data logging and it's very smooth across the RPM band, my debug word 4 is a bit on the high side, maybe I can work out that this week. The map pulls a very consistent 13.4psi.

fz

Ilma · 03-30-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pcmike

Here are some new logs I just did tonight... thoughts?

First: 20% UT, 75% IC, 40% FU2

Second: 40% UT, 50% IC, 40% FU2

FYI: IGN ADV was logged and is actually plotted here in view4, but its just a completely flat line so you don't notice it.

So it looks like adding 20% to the User Torque value results in about 1 psi more boost.

I'm kind of surprised that at a setting of 20% UT this yielded 14 psi though.

I'm still on the previous 2-23 maps and on my low power daily drive map, I run about 11.5 psi......so I am wondering if that can be replicated in these newer beta maps by reducing UT to 0%

Seems that would result in around 12-13 psi if the scale is linear.

Ilma · 03-30-2010, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcmike

Here are some new logs I just did tonight... thoughts?

First: 20% UT, 75% IC, 40% FU2

Second: 40% UT, 50% IC, 40% FU2

FYI: IGN ADV was logged and is actually plotted here in view4, but its just a completely flat line so you don't notice it.

My thoughts......

If your ignition advance is a perfectly flat line, then that is a problem and may result in poor power as timing should be advancing as rpms rise.

If not, then you are running retarded ignition timing.

pcmike · 03-30-2010, 02:32 PM

I logged the wrong thing guys.... I logged "ign advance" apparently I'm suppose to log "CAN Actual Ignition Advance" my bad.. I'll redo these tonight and repost new graphs.

OpenFlash · 03-30-2010, 02:34 PM

Panoz · 03-30-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Shiv ... can we PLEASE get an updated software that runs in 800x480

just make the tuning parameters box wide, rather than long...

This is a MUST for the next firmware!! The ones using netbooks cant work on the existing template

Pseudo Nim · 03-30-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Panoz

This is a MUST for the next firmware!! The ones using netbooks cant work on the existing template

Thanks yo. I really thought I was the only one that cared by now, was losing hope there

It's not even that much work - just make the box wide, rather than long - don't even need tabs or anything.

pcmike · 03-30-2010, 07:17 PM

I mentioned it to Shiv to the first time I hooked my netbook up to the Procede. Shiv told me they are already working on new user software and it's being coded on a netbook just for this reason. In due time guys..

OpenFlash · 03-30-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pcmike

I mentioned it to Shiv to the first time I hooked my netbook up to the Procede. Shiv told me they are already working on new user software and it's being coded on a netbook just for this reason. In due time guys..

Yes, what he said

Firmware first guys. Once we are all sorted out with that, we'll finally release revised user software. And it will be netbook suitable.

Shiv

cn555ic · 03-30-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes, what he said

Firmware first guys. Once we are all sorted out with that, we'll finally release revised user software. And it will be netbook suitable.

Shiv

Hey Shiv will this next update finally incorporate the use of progressive meth?
Also when is my valet speed limiter finally coming back??

AltecBX · 03-30-2010, 07:26 PM

I would assume that the limiter comes back wit the software.

cn555ic · 03-30-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

I would assume that the limiter comes back wit the software.

No it has to be done on the firmware side!

Glowin · 03-30-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Also when is my valet speed limiter finally coming back??

Buzz off! Persistent map switching and boost display in dash are WAY more important!

PS Since you seemed to express some love for Shiv, I thought using the Magenta color would be appropriate!

BlueLion · 03-30-2010, 10:49 PM

anyone running netbooks and can't see the bottom of the "User Adjustable Parameters" just press CRTL+ALT+Right Direction Arrow. It will flip the orientation of the screen and you can now see the bottom of the window and the Okay, Apply, & Cancel buttons are now visible. When you down press CRTL+ALT+Up Direction Arrow to return to the normal window orientation.

Use this fix so Shiv can get back to making more maps/updates

Pseudo Nim · 03-30-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueLion

anyone running netbooks and can't see the bottom of the "User Adjustable Parameters" just press CRTL+ALT+Right Direction Arrow. It will flip the orientation of the screen and you can now see the bottom of the window and the Okay, Apply, & Cancel buttons are now visible. When you down press CRTL+ALT+Up Direction Arrow to return to the normal window orientation.

Use this fix so Shiv can get back to making more maps/updates

Doesn't work for all netbooks - depends what your shortcuts are set to in your gfx adapter settings - and in my case, my car PC doesn't even have a (readily available) keyboard.

AltecBX · 03-30-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

No it has to be done on the firmware side!

I know that, but I would think he will row that feature out when the software is ready for the masses. He has not responded to anyone who has asked in the last two months, so I figure it would probably come in a big release other than a map/firmware update.

I don't have a netbook, but has anyone changed the screen resolution to see if it fixes the issue with netbooks?

pcmike · 03-31-2010, 12:51 AM

Most netbooks don't support a screen resolution large enough to fix the issue at hand.

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