[brad4221x]

Originally Posted by selm

I have a pickup date of Sept 12, and am still juggling the itinerary. I know I want to go to Rothenburg and Salzburg, see the Ludwig castles and just get go with the flow. I am thinking that Baden-Baden and the black forest is within reaching distance, but I think I might start to strech my time a little too much. Is Baden-Baden and the black forest a must see? Is the drive a memorable one?

The short answer is no. The Black Forsest is just a forest. That whole area is hilly and you can see the same thing by traveling to Tennessee. Northeast of Munich is scenic and different.

[stevebmw3]

I`m originally Europian an i was over there{also Salzburg,Munich}.

Enjoy !!!!!!!!!!!!

[UK E91]

Just heard that my E91 Touring is being built now and should be in UK in time for launch on 17th September. Not only will I be one of the first on the road in this model, but it is ahead of the 30th September delivery date I was given.

[stressdoc]

Excellent! Really looking forward to your report; should be starting withdrawal depression from the Frankfurt show about then!

[Huncowboy]

Just test drove the 330i at Vista BMW in Coral Springs FL like 30 min ago. Car was awesome, though it did not blow my 330Ci out of the water. Still I made up my mind I am getting one once the lease is up next year.

Problem is that the sales guy told me ED is not negotiable. I asked if he wanted to bet. He got pretty cocky so I walked out on him.

Since me and my family can fly for free, I am willing to pay more than $1500 over ED invoice. Anyone knows of a FL BMW dealer (or at least E coast) who would do this?

Apparently Vista BMW isn't willing, or may be I saw the wrong guy.

Thanks!!!

[ck3]

Try Matt Hoffmann at Daytona BMW. Just yesterday, I put down a deposit with him for a 330xi euro delivery. He is knowledgeable and willing to deal. I had similar experiences as you with dealerships in Melbourne, Orlando, and Tampa. Fields BMW in Lakeland is not bad, but Daytona BMW (Lynch Imports) is the best I've been able to find. Email me privately if you are interested in more info.

[CALIF65GM]

Originally Posted by Huncowboy

Since me and my family can fly for free, I am willing to pay more than $1500 over ED invoice. Anyone knows of a FL BMW dealer (or at least E coast) who would do this?

Apparently Vista BMW isn't willing, or may be I saw the wrong guy.

Thanks!!!

Go to bimmerfest and there's a whole forum on ED's. Also there's a dealer sponsor in Atlanta that's very good.

[saurav27]

After reading lot's of article online and on BMW forums and negotiating with dealers here are my number's please feel free to post your suggestions on my deal with dealer for thanksgiving delivery.

BMW 325i Sedan
MSRP - $30,900
Metallic Paint - $475
Automatic - $1275
Xenon - $800
Navigation - $2000
Shipping - $695

Total MSRP - $36,145
ED MSRP - $33,980

I was talking to few dealer's around North East i got best offer from a dealer at $32,780 for ED. I am getting $1200 off ED price shown at www.bmwusa.com
This is my first BMW should i go ahead with ED for thanksgiving delivery or there is still room for negotiation.
Do you think i am getting enough discount on ED price i.e $2 1 6 5(from bmwusa.com) + $ 1 2 0 0(dealer) = $ 3 3 6 5 on BMW 325i

What will be the number for having dealer making profit of $1200-$1500

I'm 27 year old and my above configuration reflects my need but please let me know what option i should add that help me to resell (incase) i have to do after few years.

Thanks in advance ...

[abemathew]

From bmwusa.com, I understand that for ED you will have to pay for the car 1 month before you pick it up. Is that the full transaction amount including Sales Taxes, registration etc? Or do you pay those when the car arrives?

If I go in for ED now, and pick up the car around Thanksgiving, the car will only arrive here next year. So will the transaction be complete this year or next?

The reason I'm asking this is because this has tax implications. If the transaction is done this year you can deduct the sales tax (IRS Pub 600), but it is not certain they will continue this deduction next year.

[CALIF65GM]

Originally Posted by abemathew

From bmwusa.com, I understand that for ED you will have to pay for the car 1 month before you pick it up. Is that the full transaction amount including Sales Taxes, registration etc? Or do you pay those when the car arrives?

If I go in for ED now, and pick up the car around Thanksgiving, the car will only arrive here next year. So will the transaction be complete this year or next?

The reason I'm asking this is because this has tax implications. If the transaction is done this year you can deduct the sales tax (IRS Pub 600), but it is not certain they will continue this deduction next year.

Pay or finance everything. If you lease, you can wait until 2 weeks prior to pick-up.

It's this year because you start making payments now and also take delivery in 2005.

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by Armen52

Prices of the options are the same for US or Euro Delivery. The difference in the price you'll pay is:

1) The automatic ~$2500 BMW gives you off the price of the ED car.
2) Being able to get an ED car for about $1500 over ED invoice vs. $1K off MSRP for US Delivery.

It all works out to roughly $5K in savings on a 330i.

I'm confused wth ED prices....so if I do ED, I'll get the 7% saving...and if the car is automatic, I'll save another $2500???

And what does it mean when you guys say "ED Invoice"?? Is that the same as the the "ED Price" on the BMW website?? or ED invoice is lower???

I'm planning to get a E90 325XI with some pkg&options and the US MSRP is $41065 (Invoice $37660)...how much $$$$ savings am I targeting if I do ED???

Please help!!!

[lxapilot118]

Try BMW of Columbus, in Columbus, GA. I got outstanding service from him. I called them up and asked what price they could give me on an ED 330i. I ended up getting the vehicle on my signature for 41,000 (Post-September production) without having to negotiate at all...that's just the price they gave me.

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by lxapilot118

Try BMW of Columbus, in Columbus, GA. I got outstanding service from him. I called them up and asked what price they could give me on an ED 330i. I ended up getting the vehicle on my signature for 41,000 (Post-September production) without having to negotiate at all...that's just the price they gave me.

how does that work when you live in another state?

[fdc]

Originally Posted by e90fanatic

free

Where is written that the shipping back to the US is free ?
This is what is listed as "included" with ED on BMW web site:

European Delivery price includes:
* 14 days of free premium road insurance
* Tourist registration
* Factory preparation
* Inland European transportation from the designated drop-off point
* Marine insurance
* Customs duty and clearance
* U.S. port processing and accessory installation
* Wharfage and handling fees

perhaps the

* Inland European transportation from the designated drop-off point

? if so is really badly written ...

[CALIF65GM]

Originally Posted by ska

I'm confused wth ED prices....so if I do ED, I'll get the 7% saving...and if the car is automatic, I'll save another $2500???

And what does it mean when you guys say "ED Invoice"?? Is that the same as the the "ED Price" on the BMW website?? or ED invoice is lower???

I'm planning to get a E90 325XI with some pkg&options and the US MSRP is $41065 (Invoice $37660)...how much $$$$ savings am I targeting if I do ED???

Please help!!!

1. No he was using "automatic" in terms of the discount being immediately not an automatic vs stick transmission.

2. No the ED Price on bmwusa.com is the ED MSRP. ED invoice is lower.

3. Give us the specs that you're considering. Can't determine the ED invoice unless we know the specs. But typically people aim for high $xxx to $1500 over ED invoice.

[CALIF65GM]

Originally Posted by fdc

Where is written that the shipping back to the US is free ?

Well it's not actually "free" as you pay the $695 destination charge, which you also pay on US Delivery. It's free in terms that there's no additional shipping costs besides the normal destination charge.

[ska///235i]

Originally Posted by CALIF65GM

1. No he was using "automatic" in terms of the discount being immediately not an automatic vs stick transmission.

2. No the ED Price on bmwusa.com is the ED MSRP. ED invoice is lower.

3. Give us the specs that you're considering. Can't determine the ED invoice unless we know the specs. But typically people aim for high $xxx to $1500 over ED invoice.

Here are the Specs:

2006 325xi Sedan $32,800
Destination Charge $695
Arctic Metallic $475
Premium Package $2,900
Sport Package $1,200
Options
Navigation System $2,000
Automatic Transmission $1,275
Park Distance Control $350
Fold Down Rear Seats $475
Xenon Adaptive Headlights $800

Total MSRP $42,970


I truely appreciate your help!!!

[cpcollin]

Here's the ED Invoice Price:

2006 325xi Sedan (European Delivery Invoice) $27,760
Destination Charge $695
Arctic Metallic $430
Premium Package $2,640
Sport Package $1,090
Options
Navigation System $1,820
Automatic Transmission $1,210
Park Distance Control $320
Fold Down Rear Seats $430
Xenon Adaptive Headlights $730

Total (ED) Invoice $37,125

Note that ED Invoice is only different for the base price of the car. Invoice pricing for options is the same as state-side delivery invoice pricing.

Good luck!

[fdc]

Originally Posted by CALIF65GM

Well it's not actually "free" as you pay the $695 destination charge, which you also pay on US Delivery. It's free in terms that there's no additional shipping costs besides the normal destination charge.

wow, so actually BMW looses a lot of money with ED (accounting for geman plates, insurance etc etc ) .... how it cames ?
I mean what is from BMW point of view the advantage of ED ?

fdc

[stressdoc]

There used to be some savings from excise/import tax (?not sure if this is still the case?) -- they were importing a 'used car' that had a different tax base. In addition they (BMW AG) like to encourage travel to Munich, with the tourism benefits to the economy, and the likelihood of enhanced buyer loyalty. Few things in life are better than cruising the autobahn in your new bimmer. BMW AG has a different pricing schedule for ED cars that saves them some $ that normally goes to USA dealers. You also save on the 'training fee' and local advertising market fees. Any way you look at it, ED is a great deal, no strings attached, other than putting up the cash early, and the added waiting trauma between having sampled your new car and it arriving back in the USA. Otherwise it is exactly like ordering a car at the dealer. No hassles; everything is taken care of. All you have to do is show up in Munich, sign a few papers, drive your dream for as long as you can (only 2 weeks free insurance now), and then drop it off at one of their pick-up stations and sign some more papers, get to the airport and deal with the longest 6 weeks of your life. Same car, same shipping, same everything. Except lower price, and a killer vacation.

[fdc]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

There were savings from excise/import tax (?not sure if this is still the case?) -- they were importing a 'used car' that has a different tax base. In addition they (BMW AG) like to encourage travel to Munich, with the tourism benefits to the economy, and the likelihood of enhanced buyer loyalty. BMW AG has a different pricing schedule for ED, they don't pay the USA dealers as much. Plus you save on the training and advertising fees. Few things in life are better than cruising the autobahn in your new bimmer. ED is a great deal, no strings attached, other than putting up the cash early, and the added waiting trauma between having sampled your new car and it arriving back in the USA. Otherwise it is exactly like ordering a car at the dealer. No hassles; everything is taken care of. All you have to do is show up in Munich, sign a few papers, drive your dream for as long as you can (only 2 weeks free insurance now), and then drop it off at one of their pick-up stations and sign some more papers, get to the airport and deal with the longest 6 weeks of your life. Same car, same shipping, same everything. Except lower price, and a killer vacation.

Thank you stressdoc. When I ordered my e90 I didn't get it. I thought
I still had to take care of shipping. That's really a pity because I have
family in germany and I go there at least once a year ...
well it will be for my next bmw I guess ...

fdc

[stressdoc]

Wow, that is too bad -- ED is perfect for you. Check with your dealer and make sure you cannot still do it. If your car has not shipped yet you still might be able to arrange it. Even if it has, and you can stand a longer wait, your should be able to renegotiate your deal, giving up the car you ordered and replacing it with an ED.