[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by TWNTRBO

have they done so yet? id be interested if its actually better than the rest

A month ago they had both kits set up on a car and were ready to test it the following week. We have yet to see the results... Leaves only assumptions behind, and assumptions are never good.

[OpenFlash]

I have had more important things to do in the last month than convince the unconvinced of the obvious. Results from users will speak for themselves. Leaving me to do focus on more constructive things.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by TWNTRBO

Does that have anything to do with this? what was the reason for the change needed? was it AFR specific, or somehting to do with the meth kit?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=551970

Nope. That update has nothing to do with kits. But rather focused towards those with bigger turbos and 500+whp. All that simple update did was give the Procede a larger adjustability range for AFR targeting.

[Brey335i]

Once they get caught up with PWM orders, I plan on ordering mine.

In the meantime, I am logging a lot with my current setup. I can already tell you the PWM logs look better than mine. But I am excited to see it in person

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I have had more important things to do in the last month than convince the unconvinced of the obvious. Results from users will speak for themselves. Leaving me to do focus on more constructive things.

(Block, deflect, misdirect) Only works for the newbs and some of the blind faithful on here.

One of the last post in this thread by you stated that both kits were already installed on a car and was ready for testing. What changed?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

(Block, deflect, misdirect) Only works for the newbs and some of the blind faithful on here.

One of the last post in this thread by you stated that both kits were already installed on a car and was ready for testing. What changed?

My job isn't to convince the ignorant that the earth isn't flat. Turns out the ignorant are stubborn too. So i think it's best to let the truth seep in slowly over time. And have it come from others with first hand experience rather than me. Because the ignorant find it easy to cop out by cover their ears and slinging insults when presenting with info they don't want to hear.

[Shellacked135i]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

(Block, deflect, misdirect) Only works for the newbs and some of the blind faithful on here.

One of the last post in this thread by you stated that both kits were already installed on a car and was ready for testing. What changed?

Why not instead of having everyone one of your post be an Anti-Vishnu post, do something constructive for the community, cause if you think your bickering does anything you've been horribly mislead.

The kits are sold out and pre-ordered for weeks.... You arent slowing anyone down. Give it a rest. The kit is good. Its been proven for years on many other platforms. Search Aquamist.

[Rotorocious]

Seeing that ghetto pressure switch is Enough reason for me to not get one.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Rotorocious

Seeing that ghetto pressure switch is Enough reason for me to not get one.

Sound reasoning

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Nope. That update has nothing to do with kits. But rather focused towards those with bigger turbos and 500+whp. All that simple update did was give the Procede a larger adjustability range for AFR targeting.

Shiv, I'm upgrading turbos in the next couple months. Will you allow some kind of trade from a to b? For customers that have bought every version rev 1 - v1, rev 1 - v2 harness, rev 1 - v3 PNP, rev - 2.a?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by scottp999

Shiv, I'm upgrading turbos in the next couple months. Will you allow some kind of trade from a to b? For customers that have bought every version rev 1 - v1, rev 1 - v2 harness, rev 1 - v3 PNP, rev - 2.a?

Yes... More info next week.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes... More info next week.

Thanks, just saw this info coming around in another thread as well.

[Rotorocious]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Sound reasoning

After you talked negatively about kits with a pressure switch, yes.
I'll admit I'm sure it's different but I think it should have been done cleaner.

I'm just here to watch and eat popcorn.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Rotorocious

After you talked negatively about kits with a pressure switch, yes.
I'll admit I'm sure it's different but I think it should have been done cleaner.

I'm just here to watch and eat popcorn.

We are using a pressure switch to arm a pump so it doesn't run constant when not needed. It has nothing to do with metering methanol spray which is done by an injector. So yes, Rotorocious, it is different than using a pressure switch to turn a pump with no such metering device. That's silly.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by TWNTRBO

how exactly does a circuitry update allow better control of fuel, that just seems odd?

I didn't say "better"? I said it offers a wider adjustability range for those who need it. More info next week.

[sdstatestud88]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

So what ever happened to this? Both systems were on the car and ready for testing according to your post.
Sorry but lack of data only leaves me thinking the test was done and the results did not come out as fruitful as you wanted it to be..

SHIV provided users with his first pps kits...Users logged, documented and commented...he has then moved onto PWM....Say an HFS-3 essentially...Users logged, documented and commented.

To many people come in here to bash and talk shit..How about we constructively criticize to further the tuning on our platform..

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

My job isn't to convince the ignorant that the earth isn't flat. Turns out the ignorant are stubborn too. So i think it's best to let the truth seep in slowly over time. And have it come from others with first hand experience rather than me. Because the ignorant find it easy to cop out by cover their ears and slinging insults when presenting with info they don't want to hear.

My job isn't to beleive everything you say, sorry if that ruffles your feathers. The fact that the data was not provided when it was blantantly stated that the test car was already set up to have a run at it with both kits, shows that you cannot provide proof that this system works better than a standard meth kit. You do not have to prove anything, lack of proof also speaks pretty damn loud.

[Brey335i]

Shiv has already provided log of the PWM kit. And I'm sure many more users will log too now that they are beginning to receive their kits.

Why don't you guys try to come up with a log on a PPS kit that looks better than the PWM logs... Instead of expecting Shiv to provide one for you

[ridin135]

I would like to hear someone's observations that has had both kits on their car. I have had the pps kit on two cars and would like to try the Pwm but retrofitting it to the z is more work then I wanna do.

[EastBayE90]

I don't understand what your point is ramblej? Why feel the need to bring this back up after so long? Because Vishnu is back? Just give it a rest. Lots of people will receive their kits in the next few weeks and everyone will love it as much as I do. That will be all the proof you need. And if you already have your mind set what's the point of proving anything to you?

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by (-(ellblazer420

I don't understand what your point is ramblej? Why feel the need to bring this back up after so long? Because Vishnu is back? Just give it a rest. Lots of people will receive their kits in the next few weeks and everyone will love it as much as I do. That will be all the proof you need. And if you already have your mind set what's the point of proving anything to you?

I don't know why the same 6 people always get bent out of shape when someone questions Vishnu. I hope you all defend your family to this regard. In any case, the selling point of this meth kit aside from the plug and play feature was the fact that this style kit was head and shoulders above the standard kits out there at how it delivers meth. Ok if that is so why not put the data out there to prove it. Doesn't seem like an amazing question to ask.
I know you love your new kit, that is great. But for all the people out there who may want a kit, this type of data would (if true) help produce more sales. The fact that it was requested and stated going to be done and then brushed under the rug speaks in volumes.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

I don't know why the same 6 people always get bent out of shape when someone questions Vishnu. I hope you all defend your family to this regard. In any case, the selling point of this meth kit aside from the plug and play feature was the fact that this style kit was head and shoulders above the standard kits out there at how it delivers meth. Ok if that is so why not put the data out there to prove it. Doesn't seem like an amazing question to ask.
I know you love your new kit, that is great. But for all the people out there who may want a kit, this type of data would (if true) help produce more sales. The fact that it was requested and stated going to be done and then brushed under the rug speaks in volumes.

Go be productive.