[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

I find it hard to believe that people that work at a BMW dealer get it for free... i have a lot of friends that work at the dealership that are techs, im going to ask them tonight and see what htey say to that.

I assumed that he was stealing the parts.

[CASHBY]

ahahaah... Well Dinnan shit is not cheap at all.. so I was just finding it hard to believe they would give "free" stuff away to people who work at BMW...but who knows, its posible... i have some friends so ill ask th em.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

pretty much nothing for the 335i so far, besides AA obviously.

if i werent to say procede was the best product for the 335 right now, people would get all butt hurt and start posting dyno shit that i dont even care for and compare the AA products to them. besides, with procede you get the most gained power then any other product so far, and i said SO FAR meaning that can change.

im no shiv dick rider if you think i am, but there ARE a lot of people on this board who are.

You do realize that new s/w updates for the PROcede can be downloaded to your laptop computer and then downloaded into the PROcede, right? This means that Shiv can continually revise and update the PROcede s/w (probably up to a certain point of course) to make more power, which can then be downloaded and installed by current PROcede customers (for free as Shiv has said many times).

[steveff4]

Originally Posted by maynardc

I wouldn't say it's the best simply based upon the number of inputs and outputs...that to me is the last thing I care about. What matters most is the programming in the box. You could have a top-of-the-line box w/ 1,000 input and outputs, but it ain't worth shit if it's full of crappy code.

I'm curious to know how many of those inputs/outputs are actually used in the Procede...anyone?

Originally Posted by IrishFlush03

Im kinda a noobie at this but how does the amount of inputs and outputs proove quality in the product? Like if one product has 4 inputs and the other has 1, how does that proove that the first product is better? Just because something has moe inputs doesn't always make it better.

Sorry, my sarcasm must have been too subtle. Shiv was the one that originally pointed out that the PROcede was obviously better because it had more I/O. I on the other hand don't see how more I/O automatically makes it better, particularly since none of this extra I/O is even being utilized.

If I have an installed controller that is doing the job that I need, replacing it with a different controller that has more I/O does not make the new controller better.

[nmehta211]

Wow, this is so deja vu from the time my brother had the first production line2000 S4. Everyone was bashing each other...MTM this, APR that, GIAC ftw, etc..etc.

I love a little battle...competition breeds excellence. I can either go with Shiv and support my Indian bro, take a nice vacation down to Miami/South Beach and go with AA, or stay close to home and visit my good ol' neighbors, Turner!

I love my life...decisions decisions!

Originally Posted by sflgator

You do realize that new s/w updates for the PROcede can be downloaded to your laptop computer and then downloaded into the PROcede, right? This means that Shiv can continually revise and update the PROcede s/w (probably up to a certain point of course) to make more power, which can then be downloaded and installed by current PROcede customers (for free as Shiv has said many times).

yup but eventually you'll probably need a bigger turbo which i don't know if vishnu will make that or not....:rocks:

[DrewKo]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

yup but eventually you'll probably need a bigger turbo which i don't know if vishnu will make that or not....:rocks:

[j|rz44]

What about this.... How much should a tank that holds lets say 50 gallons of STFU Already!

[E90Boy]

Originally Posted by maynardc

I wouldn't say it's the best simply based upon the number of inputs and outputs...that to me is the last thing I care about. What matters most is the programming in the box. You could have a top-of-the-line box w/ 1,000 input and outputs, but it ain't worth shit if it's full of crappy code.

I'm curious to know how many of those inputs/outputs are actually used in the Procede...anyone?

I would think it's the same as motherboards. More I/O's, more ability to upgrade when the time comes?

[CASHBY]

confirmed that Dinnan does absolutley NOT hook up "free" parts to BMW employee's

p.s Here is a great picture to see how easy it is to instal after removing the stock air box... its pretty easy work

http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/...9/IMG_0047.jpg

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by jmramos44

What about this.... How much should a tank that holds lets say 50 gallons of STFU Already!

[LOK11atXEDE]

Originally Posted by maynardc

I wouldn't say it's the best simply based upon the number of inputs and outputs...that to me is the last thing I care about. What matters most is the programming in the box. You could have a top-of-the-line box w/ 1,000 input and outputs, but it ain't worth shit if it's full of crappy code.

I'm curious to know how many of those inputs/outputs are actually used in the Procede...anyone?

Hmm, we were going to make one of those with the 1000 I/O's and call it the PRO-XUBERANCE but at $49,995, we couldn't see many potential customers for it.

Originally Posted by jmramos44

What about this.... How much should a tank that holds lets say 50 gallons of STFU Already!

Nice call, maybe we forgot this post was about AA bringing quality products to the 335 community!

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

confirmed that Dinnan does absolutley NOT hook up "free" parts to BMW employee's

p.s Here is a great picture to see how easy it is to instal after removing the stock air box... its pretty easy work

http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/...9/IMG_0047.jpg

Its off-topic, but is that intake manifold plastic!?! Is it a cover? I hope so.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by E90Boy

I would think it's the same as motherboards. More I/O's, more ability to upgrade when the time comes?

+1. We are testing a feature that takes advantage of another digital input/output right now Will be simple software update for all current PROcede users.

Shiv

[modvp]

I think AA should be paying Shiv (lots of) royalties for all the work he put into developing the xede (for them).

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Dude please,

Shiv spent months developing the Xede, found it to be lacking, got rid of and replaced it with the PROCEDE and has already shipped out a bunch to customers, while AA takes the easy route and goes with the XEDE and sells it at a lower price and it wont even be out till April.

I payed $43000 for my car and I'll be damned if I'm going to go cheap and get a product discarded by someone like Vishnu who has a proven track record with FI ENGINES. Doesn't matter if its a EVO, WRX STI, or a 335. The basic principle is still the same.

If AA was really that bad ass then they coulda come up with something to surpass the PROCEDE, not a product thats in a class below it.

Honestly, I dont know if Vishnu has any grounds to take legal action, but if they do then I would.

[steveff4]

Originally Posted by modvp

I think AA should be paying Shiv (lots of) royalties for all the work he put into developing the xede (for them).

[Raider]

Originally Posted by CEA 3

confirmed that Dinnan does absolutley NOT hook up "free" parts to BMW employee's

p.s Here is a great picture to see how easy it is to instal after removing the stock air box... its pretty easy work

http://www.superhonda.com/photopost/...9/IMG_0047.jpg

That's my car...


Seriously, can't wait to get an intake for this car..i dont care if the gain is 0 to minimal...removing the airbox you got a TON of room to work with...to check for boost leak and such...


And yeah, the intake manifold cover is plastic, probably to keep from burning your hands or something...

[bnj]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

+1. We are testing a feature that takes advantage of another digital input/output right now Will be simple software update for all current PROcede users.

Shiv

Great Shiv!

[edgarj]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

+1. We are testing a feature that takes advantage of another digital input/output right now Will be simple software update for all current PROcede users.

Shiv

Any hints as to effect? VANOS contol, and if so what type of power/refinement should we expect in vague R&D terms?

[SamBoler]

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[Bravo1]

Originally Posted by sflgator

You do realize that new s/w updates for the PROcede can be downloaded to your laptop computer and then downloaded into the PROcede, right?

The Xede can be updated as well, so I would expect to see an update from AA in the future. Shiv never mentioned who is producing the Proceed for him, but most of the updates are probably developed directly with the manafacturer unless if Shiv got his hands on the firmware source code.

The one thing that would turn me away from the Xede right now is that the manufacturer is making an updated version of the Xede with more I/O and USB support. Both products are good, but I wouldn't want to get something that may be changing by years end. The biggest weakness in the 335 is still the rear diff, so until that is changed it will still have problems putting the power down making the difference in HP and Torque almost insignificant in the lower gears.

[hl0m4n]

where is active? aren't they part of this forum?