[sflgator]

Originally Posted by E90 335i

If only Gator knew part of the truth. If only.

If only these "kids" today weren't so damn naive and cocky. Well, I guess I might have been just a little like that many years ago when I was their age. LOL.

[Trill335]

Originally Posted by Chowbow

Is that against an aggressively driven manual? Meaning high RPM launch with some slip and powershifting through all the gears?

Yes! I would put my money where my mouth is in this case. The auto is a superior platform in acceleration tests.

The big two lane dyno with the christmas-tree in the center doesn't lie.

[Trill335]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Great, but I track my car, but thats just preference, and from a love of F1. Im gonna try to hit the next Texas 1/4 Mile, thoose will be some nice 11's.

I fail to see your point about tracking your vehicle. The auto is a superior platform in that environment as well.

Arguments about man vs. Auto often end in opinion and rarely contain solid evidence. Take a look at the numbers on a track or course with a competent driver...same vehicle, same mods. The auto will be more consistent and easier to control at the limit.

Again best of luck to you. I can't wait to see your results! by the way are you talking about the Texas 28k?

[itsbrokeagain]

all of Jacque's mods are simple stuff that even I think of....then again I have experience in the turbo industry when it comes to such things, so his ideas are not extraordinary. He sounds to me like he knows what hes doing...hes just doing it with resources we dont have.

I can see 428hp on a 335..it shouldnt be that hard to accomplish..the biggest thing is the turbos..that limits a lot that this car can do. external gates help alot to keep the boost spikes down..I just wonder where he put them with all that lack of space down there.

[LACA335i]

Originally Posted by sflgator

All well and good, but the bottom line is that Jacque is building himself a "drag car" out of a a BMW 335i (although these cars were really not meant to be drag cars). What most of us want out of our BMW 335i's is a very fast daily driver; an entry-level luxury sports-oriented car (Coupe or Sedan) that is faster than stock, and faster than most cars on the road today, but one that still retains the handling and road manners of an everyday car with stealthy (stock) looks.

No disrespect intended, but what Jacque has done and continues to do with his car are things that 95% of even us "enthusiasts" would not do to our daily drivers; e.g. upgraded torque converter, upgraded stall converter, fully locked differential, external wastegates, custom crank case vacuum, custom (stock) FMIC, run MS109 race gas, full intercooler modifications on the hot side - charge pipes, oil catch can, etc. FWIW, anyone with the technical and financial means can build a drag car (or have one built for them) out of almost any car on the road today...the 335i is no exception.

Now everyone has a choice, and apparently you are personally fascinated (almost to the point of obsession ) with what Jacque is doing, while most of us aren't that interested. You have to admit that although he has some neat ideas that can be considered "out of the box," most ppl will be unwilling to go much beyond the typical mods for this car in order to retain the everyday driving characteristics. Most ppl (even on this Forum) are not interested in building their own BMW 335i "drag car." When something like this is done, there is a greater risk of premature failure and much uncertainty that goes along with it.

Again, just my $0.02, but valid points from another perspective, imho.

i m totally understanding you. However, Majority of the people on e90post just want fast,stylist, luxury, and status as balla. I also know few car owner want to use this car as "drag car" Yes im one of those people what to drag my car.. Here is a question for you. i hope you would answer this question. Why people buy m3? Why some tuner build ultimate m3 with 1000 whp. e46. 1000 whp m3 is still drivable car on either on fwy or on the street. If you dont believe me, you can youtube.com on it. ok. Yes i do understand your concern about the premature failure. An average BMW 335i without lease contract, they tend to drive about 18K to 25K per year. By the time you reach 50K or 4 years whichever come first. Your warrant is over. It does not matter if it is engine failure or electronical failure. It does matter at all because the warranty wont cover it. I believe strongly that when bmw build any car. It usually solid.. Unfornuately, BMW well known for their electronical failure most like than Engine failure. Well i know tons of people go all motor on S2000. It producing over 700 whp. Why people do all motor on Supra turbo with 1000 WHP.. Why old timer like to fix their 70's 60's 50's car to go to the track. I will give you a hint. FUN, Thrill, Boy hang out.

[335iheLLraiseR]

OMFG, this thread is still going on?

[Chowbow]

Originally Posted by Trill335

Yes! I would put my money where my mouth is in this case. The auto is a superior platform in acceleration tests.

The big two lane dyno with the christmas-tree in the center doesn't lie.

Yeah I think in most tests, especially magazine drivers who don't drive that hard, the auto is faster. I have yet to see some times from a stick 335 with a good hard launch and some well clicked off powershifts.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by E90 335i

People.

I don't want to come across as an ass here and I like all of you, but let's get real.

The VIP Tuning 335 has modifications that NO OTHER 335 has on it - that we, the forum, know about.

His external wastegates on the cutouts combined with catless downpipes made about a net 50 whp. "You will be VERY happy with this mod."

Unless any of you have done this and can prove it wrong, try not to speculate, please. I don't know of ANY 335i on here that runs 17 PSI....not ONE!

Terry runs 15 max on JB2HR on race gas, Shiv runs 15 max and recommends 93 octane.

Unless I am living under a rock, nobody here is running 17 PSI unless they are having boost spikes.

He's going to run again soon and I'll do my best to go with him. I might be committed to go to a Panther's hockey game to watch them lose.

The next run will be MS109 and a few more tweaks and we are expecting low 11's on a run that will be posted and not 'conservative' like the 11.9 run.

He's got a lot of things on his car that add up HP like the DP/external wastegate combination, secondary cooling units for the oil cooler, intake, cutout exhaust (wastegate design), 14 PSI comprehensive custom tune, full intercooler modifications on the hot side ...charge pipes, etc....oil catch can to keep all the charge pipes clean (robbing horsepower from ALL OF US RIGHT NOW)....he has a lot of little stupid things that are very important that all of us never thought about or saw.

I think we all have our heads in the gutter here with tune/exhaust/intake = all we can do.

There are SO many other options VIP has tapped into that most of you never even thought about.

Tell you what. Go ahead when you get time and pull your charge pipes. Turn them up and watch the oil drip out of them. You think that gains you HP?

There are just so many small stupid little things that rack up HP quickly. You can't pull 428 jwhp on pump gas out of your behind. Call BS on it, but you'll just eat your words when the dynos pop up. VIP isn't a very computer oriented person as far as the forums go. Besides, he barely has the time to get on here and talk to us. He is working at BMW daytime and at the VIP Tuning Shop until late at night.

Intake and charge pipes will be in tomorrow, ready for order. We're working on getting VIP Tuning to be a sponsor on here so we can get the products to you guys for cheaper and fill you in on everything and provide you with dynos.

I am real confident in the exhaust mods so I will dyno my car before and after the exhaust mods.

Just don't be so quick to speculate because what you see is what you get. Many already will be eating their words about this 428 whp.

The transmission fluid on the VIP Tuning 335 has also been drained and it looks perfect! The tranny is holding up great!

No one is saying it didn't happen my friend. People are just asking for proof. Why does that make you so mad? This happens on every forum in the world.

[E90 335i]

It frustrates me because there's people on here saying that nobody wants to build a drag racer. He is assuming the VIP is a drag car. Then they come on here and start wasting peope's time and wasting bandwidth. There are better threads to go whine at.

Just because he goes out of his way and does more mods than others makes it a drag car. He drives that car everyday with his wife...I'm pretty sure it's still a great DD.

As far as his R&D and experience, he raced cars professionally for two years, has been working on BMW for many, many years, and has been working on the 335 ever since anyone on here got their hands on it.

I don't think I should be forced to justify anything here...except throw these mods on my car, dyno, go to the track, and just shut everybody up.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Ok, then I will ran a 9 second 1/4 mile in my 335 yesterday and dyno'd at 873 rwhp on 12 psi with bolt on mods. I see your point.

[RedGT3]

TOO FUNNY

[Miami Bimmer06]

A guy posted this on the other forum, on floridastreetscene.net and my s/n there is Boosted_335_tt and this is what he told me..

Hey Boosted 335 , When I ask you about that race with the 335 ? that was my boi that is the quickest blue 335 on spray 11.90s in the US so far.


He will be attending HIN , He has his own shop , his name is John Horton, White dude with Hawian tattos on his arms... Im sure the blue 335 will be there , he sold the car to my Asian buddy Jack..

I thought they said there werent on Nos, and if they were somebody just put them out there on how they got to be 11.9

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Miami Bimmer06

A guy posted this on the other forum, on floridastreetscene.net and my s/n there is Boosted_335_tt and this is what he told me..

Hey Boosted 335 , When I ask you about that race with the 335 ? that was my boi that is the quickest blue 335 on spray 11.90s in the US so far.


He will be attending HIN , He has his own shop , his name is John Horton, White dude with Hawian tattos on his arms... Im sure the blue 335 will be there , he sold the car to my Asian buddy Jack..

I thought they said there werent on Nos, and if they were somebody just put them out there on how they got to be 11.9

Interesting.

[Miami Bimmer06]

yep and I am correct they stated they werent on spray nor meth.

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by Miami Bimmer06

yep and I am correct they stated they werent on spray nor meth.

yeah, they stated on pump gas and no spray, meth wouldn't get you into the 11's anyways.

[NYCGarbagePrince]

the car is not on spray.. End of subject.

[335iheLLraiseR]

Originally Posted by NYCGarbagePrince

the car is not on spray.. End of subject.

well that was quick.dayum.

[NYCGarbagePrince]

I spend almost as much time around that car as I do my own. It would be a veritable "NO2Gate" for him to have it in there and not a single person around him know about it. I have been in and out of it. There are no buttons in the car or under the pedal and most of all no lines or nozzles in the engine bay. Oh yeah and no bottle. Even though that is easily coverable.

[Miami Bimmer06]

Originally Posted by NYCGarbagePrince

the car is not on spray.. End of subject.

Hey Im not accusing nobody, im just stating what a member at another forum posted, and he sayd he is buddies with the owner of the 11 sec 335. If its not true then vip tunning better check all there friends and see why they are saying that the car is on spray. i never said it, simply i just quoted what was said in another forum.

[rideelement247]

What is going on for real lol. Someone needs pictures/dynos to get rid of all of this confusion. Jacque should just get someone to take pics of his car and post them. An all around of the car, inside and out, so someone can't say the spray bottle is hidden under the runk liner or something like that. Just make it a total 100% verifiable thing for those who cannot see the car locally.

[Trill335]

Originally Posted by Chowbow

Yeah I think in most tests, especially magazine drivers who don't drive that hard, the auto is faster. I have yet to see some times from a stick 335 with a good hard launch and some well clicked off powershifts.

Find a competent stick man within the south eastern US with a stock 335 coupe, prefer similar options... Comfort Access and Sports. I'll try em from a dig...set it up!

[E90 335i]

Got a call from Jacque and he really thinks all your retarded comments are hilarious. He really had a laugh at the spray comment. He just wanted to say thank you for the laughs.