[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by 335iFFM

That's never with a Stg1 Turbo. He should beat him with one

I thought so as well

[ShlemonboostedM]

Originally Posted by torr

[u2b]http://youtu.be/CbIrIVFY-9I[/u2b]

Yea your mod list would be great.. I would like to see fbo pure stg 1 car vs one

[PeterPure]

I did some more tests yesterday and today in regards to quartermile times and boost correlation.

Data was logged with my usual xgps160 logger with racechrono pro on android.
So while the times might not be 100% accurate since the logger and app are not universally accepted I do believe they can be used as a reference between different boost levels on my car.

It looks like trap speeds are 1 to 2 mph slower nowadays than what i logged previously. So only seeing 119.x mph compared to previous 120.x and 121.x @ max boost. And with a good launch I am seeing mid 11's. At lower boost (15 psi) the launches are more easy and if done right gets me a high 11 with ofcourse lower trap speeds.

Once over 120mph the difference between 14/15 psi and 20 psi becomes more apparent. Like 120-145 taking 1.5 seconds more etc...

edit: possibly my spark plugs need replacing after 44k km and might be the cause of the lower trap speed. Will do some relogs once thats done.

[JETmn]

Great info, but a bit hard to compare since the launches on some are so drastically different.

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by JETmn

Great info, but a bit hard to compare since the launches on some are so drastically different.

Yeah grip is not alway the same nor are my launch skills
I also have corresponding JB4 logs of all those runs if someone is intrested I can post them up.

[1cleann55]

Last night i ran deemar in his e90 pure 335i vs my e92 vargas stage 1. Same mods for the exception of stage 2 clutch in my car. Map 6 targeting pretty much same targets it was completely even. No one pulled away no one lost or won.

[aren93]

Originally Posted by 1cleann55

Last night i ran deemar in his e90 pure 335i vs my e92 vargas stage 2. Same mods for the exception of stage 2 clutch in my car. Map 6 targeting pretty much same targets it was completely even. No one pulled away no one lost or won.

Now I know i'd rather get Pure Turbo since it's much cheaper

[1cleann55]

Originally Posted by aren93

Now I know i'd rather get Pure Turbo since it's much cheaper

They're the same price maybe 50 more or less and pures core charge is 900 vargas is 750. Also i think pure was cheaper only for the group buy. Someone correct me if wrong

[deemarr 335i]

Originally Posted by 1cleann55

Last night i ran deemar in his e90 pure 335i vs my e92 vargas stage 1. Same mods for the exception of stage 2 clutch in my car. Map 6 targeting pretty much same targets it was completely even. No one pulled away no one lost or won.

Yea definitely a drivers race....good runs tho kid, we run again soon

[aren93]

Originally Posted by 1cleann55

They're the same price maybe 50 more or less and pures core charge is 900 vargas is 750. Also i think pure was cheaper only for the group buy. Someone correct me if wrong

Isn't Vargas stage 2 $2,499-$3,999?

[1cleann55]

Originally Posted by aren93

Isn't Vargas stage 2 $2,499-$3,999?

That was a typo i meant stage 1

[Newguy123]

No videos????

[1cleann55]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

No videos????

Unfortunately no but ask dee runs were close close

[deemarr 335i]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

No videos????

Yah very close.....video next time

[aren93]

Can you guys with upgraded turbos post some more videos of like 0-120 runs? or some nice pulls

[iuhutch]

Originally Posted by 1cleann55

Last night i ran deemar in his e90 pure 335i vs my e92 vargas stage 1. Same mods for the exception of stage 2 clutch in my car. Map 6 targeting pretty much same targets it was completely even. No one pulled away no one lost or won.

Good test, thanks for running and sharing the results.

[loesch]

Originally Posted by 1cleann55

Last night i ran deemar in his e90 pure 335i vs my e92 vargas stage 1. Same mods for the exception of stage 2 clutch in my car. Map 6 targeting pretty much same targets it was completely even. No one pulled away no one lost or won.

Nice! I bet that was fun. Thanks for sharing.

[danielescobarg]

Came back from the dyno.

Will post graphs later.

just to tease you all.

FBO stock turbo with meth map 3 349 WHP and 489 WTQ
FBO Pure STG1 with Meth map 6 400 WHP and 480 WTQ (16.5 PSI peak)
FBO Pure STG 1 with Meth map 6 422 WHP and 500 WTQ (20 PSI Peak)
FBO Pure STG 1 with Meth + Race gas Map 6 440 WHP and 568 WTQ (20.5 PSI)

have graphs and logs, lots of info, need some time to organize all data.


Best,

Daniel

[loesch]

Originally Posted by danielescobarg

Came back from the dyno.

Will post graphs later.

just to tease you all.

FBO stock turbo with meth map 3 349 WHP and 489 WTQ
FBO Pure STG1 with Meth map 6 400 WHP and 480 WTQ (14.5 PSI peak)
FBO Pure STG 1 with Meth map 6 422 WHP and 500 WTQ (20 PSI Peak)
FBO Pure STG 1 with Meth + Race gas Map 6 440 WHP and 568 WTQ (20.5 PSI)

have graphs and logs, lots of info, need some time to organize all data.


Best,

Daniel

Holy shit!

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by danielescobarg

Came back from the dyno.

Will post graphs later.

just to tease you all.

FBO stock turbo with meth map 3 349 WHP and 489 WTQ
FBO Pure STG1 with Meth map 6 400 WHP and 480 WTQ (14.5 PSI peak)
FBO Pure STG 1 with Meth map 6 422 WHP and 500 WTQ (20 PSI Peak)
FBO Pure STG 1 with Meth + Race gas Map 6 440 WHP and 568 WTQ (20.5 PSI)

have graphs and logs, lots of info, need some time to organize all data.


Best,

Daniel

Thats actually what my butt dyne tells me as well. I am guessing 15 psi and race gas map6 would be around 420 whp as well. I will stick to 15/16 psi for daily driving. More psi is just stressing the components for not that much more gains but good for a quick kill of course

[danielescobarg]

Ok guys.

So this is how it went.

Base run was done back in 2012, with a pre ISO firmware. Very shaky, also because dyno is a Dyna pack, and like most non-inertial dynos, peaks are very noticeable.

Also, this was done at 5000 ft, and graphs are SAE corrected with 1.21 CF. Deltas are more important that peaks.

Car is a 2012 135 6MT. mods are: BMS 3.5 inch dp, corsa catback, AA FMIC, BMS meth kit and BMS intake.

I apologize in advance for the confusion of the runs, we so many that colors got screwed so it’s a bit hard to read.

Base line FBO on map 3 is the Solid green line. I don’t recall what boost was running back then since map 3 adjust boost of meth flow. The graph below the baseline is against the car when was stock (dotter red one) the other green and blue dotted were stage 1 JB4

So, stock: 290 WHP and 390 WTQ
FBO stock turbo map 3 meth: 349.5 and 489,5 WTQ



The same FBO runs of the 349.5/489.5 is the baseline on the Pure runs (today) this is the dashed green line (lowest one)

On todays runs, we did several, 10 IIRC. But I will only show best of the 3 set-ups we tried.

First one (solid green) was on pump gas (90 oct) and meth. Boost targets were 14 PSI until 3000, from 3000 to 5500 16.5 and from 5500 to 6500 15 and 14.5. Back when I was doing logs I found that since meth was supplementing so much of the fueling, boost could not be raised before ~3500 or severe ign retard would occur.

This run was: ~400 WHP and 480 WTQ.
Log of Run:

Second one is dotted green. Pump gas also + meth. But this time tried to max the turbo from 3500 on. 20 PSI target till 6500. This had some ign retard, and would not be confortable using it on a day to day. Meth simply cant supplement the needed octane.

This run was: 422 WHP and 500 WTQ
Log of Run:


Last run, we put in 104 octane gas. Mixture was about ~85% race fuel 15% pump. Effective octane of 99 octane or so. This time had the boost targets in 20 PSI from 2000 til redline.

This run was: 440 WHP and 568 WTQ.
Log of Run:


Pure STG1 (various boost levels and fueling) vs Stock Turbo


overall very satisfied with the results.

Money shot right here


I think a backend flash will help a lot with AFR, since they are very lean in the mid range. Top end is ok I guess. That’s the next step, luckily its available for this DME.

Hope you enjoy the results!

Best,

Daniel

[iuhutch]

Wow! Awesome results and awesome data! Thank you for spending the time to track and publish this