[mkPOTO]

vs?

[BTM]

Vs does...a&l does if Patrick does

[CubanJJ09]

Yea vs does, I'm having A&L install my suspension and want it balanced

[mkPOTO]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

Yea vs does, I'm having A&L install my suspension and want it balanced

I'm surprised you want it corner balanced, you planning on tracking it? And it is a 4+ hour job if you weren't aware

[BTM]

Last I heard they send you to Patrick for their alignments...not sure if Patrick corner balances

[BTM]

Originally Posted by mkPOTO

I'm surprised you want it corner balanced, you planning on tracking it? And it is a 4+ hour job if you weren't aware

Yea...they corner balance with weight in the drivers seat to account for you being on a track...I plan on tracking but corner balancing is not even on my radar...if all 4 wheels are balanced and you're in alignment you're good IMO

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by mkPOTO

I'm surprised you want it corner balanced, you planning on tracking it? And it is a 4+ hour job if you weren't aware

Yea i am, doesn't matter how long the process is. I'm looking into it right now to see if it's worth it

[mithiral67]

So still debating on what set up to go with on my rims. I want to go with the wider set (9.5in/11in) over the standard set (8.5in/9.5in) as they will look more aggressive and have major concavity over the narrow set. I am just held up by by a couple factors.

The wider set will be about the same weight as I currently have and the narrow set will help me shed some weight 4-5lb per wheel.

The wider set will require some stretching, so it wont fit flush on the rim, which I am a little torn on. I like the flush look, but I love the wider wheels, so its a trade off.

Lastly is the durability of a wider wheel, does that effect how well they hold up. My breytons are gravity cast and I like the AGs as they are low gravity cast and help shed weight and are stronger, but if I go wider and completely trade that away, not sure if its worth it.

So here's some links to some pics, let me know what you guys think would work best. FYI, I am space grey e92 and will be going matte black powder coating.

This is the 9.5in/11in in matte black
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427720

Another 9.5in/11in in awesome blue
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=482532

Lastely, the 8.5/9.5 with the m3 offset, so I will need a roll no matter which set I go with.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=21


Let me know what you guys think would be all around best given these facts.

Thanks

[mithiral67]

i had to google corner balancing, interest stuff.

[BTM]

Breytons I believe are also LP gravity cast so the durability should be the same. If you are running a lower aspect ratio, expect more of an "impact" to be transferred to the wheel rather than being absorbed by the tire.

LPGC < HPGC < Flow formed < Forged

When all else equal, of course. This isn't to say cast wheels suck at all, there are plenty of lightweight and strong cast wheels. Going over bumps the tire absorbs most of the impact, so stretching a lower profile will transfer more of the impact to the wheel. TBH, 11 might be pushing it on a non M E92...have you looked at any others running an 11 rear setup? I honestly can't recall any but I could be mistaken. If memory serves, 11 was very aggressive on the E90 which can easier accommodate wider wheels and lower offsets.

[CubanJJ09]

Even with the more concave wheel as soon as it starts to poke like that it's a wrap. In my eyes a 11"'wheel should at a min. Have a 295 tire on it. I have a 9.5 with a 275 and want more meat. When I replace the tires I'm gonna try to stuff a 285 on there. I had a 275 on the oem 8.5" and loved the way it looked. that being said I'd go with thT 9.5 of those two wheel options

Originally Posted by mithiral67

So still debating on what set up to go with on my rims. I want to go with the wider set (9.5in/11in) over the standard set (8.5in/9.5in) as they will look more aggressive and have major concavity over the narrow set. I am just held up by by a couple factors.

The wider set will be about the same weight as I currently have and the narrow set will help me shed some weight 4-5lb per wheel.

The wider set will require some stretching, so it wont fit flush on the rim, which I am a little torn on. I like the flush look, but I love the wider wheels, so its a trade off.

Lastly is the durability of a wider wheel, does that effect how well they hold up. My breytons are gravity cast and I like the AGs as they are low gravity cast and help shed weight and are stronger, but if I go wider and completely trade that away, not sure if its worth it.

So here's some links to some pics, let me know what you guys think would work best. FYI, I am space grey e92 and will be going matte black powder coating.

This is the 9.5in/11in in matte black
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427720

Another 9.5in/11in in awesome blue
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=482532

Lastely, the 8.5/9.5 with the m3 offset, so I will need a roll no matter which set I go with.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=21


Let me know what you guys think would be all around best given these facts.

Thanks

[BTM]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

Yea i am, doesn't matter how long the process is. I'm looking into it right now to see if it's worth it

Unless you're an experienced driver in those conditions and/or running a track dedicated car at limits where the benefits will be noticed, the consensus seems to be not really worth it...keep in mind how much more capable the car is than you are as is...a corner balance won't make you drastically better nor less likely to crash...

Your money is better put towards expendables and maintenance like brake pads, fluid, oil changes, tires, etc

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

i had to google corner balancing, interest stuff.

Yea I've been reading up on all that shit as of late and have a decent base
I've been trying to get the details down

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by BTM

Unless you're an experienced driver in those conditions and/or running a track dedicated car at limits where the benefits will be noticed, the consensus seems to be not really worth it...keep in mind how much more capable the car is than you are as is...a corner balance won't make you drastically better nor less likely to crash...

True, but if I'm gonna spend xx amount of dollars on a basically 80% new suspension, lighten shit up, give it more power I want to at least look into something like that or at a min. see how it's balanced now.

[mithiral67]

Originally Posted by BTM

Breytons I believe are also LP gravity cast so the durability should be the same. If you are running a lower aspect ratio, expect more of an "impact" to be transferred to the wheel rather than being absorbed by the tire.

LPGC < HPGC < Flow formed < Forged

When all else equal, of course. This isn't to say cast wheels suck at all, there are plenty of lightweight and strong cast wheels. Going over bumps the tire absorbs most of the impact, so stretching a lower profile will transfer more of the impact to the wheel. TBH, 11 might be pushing it on a non M E92...have you looked at any others running an 11 rear setup? I honestly can't recall any but I could be mistaken. If memory serves, 11 was very aggressive on the E90 which can easier accommodate wider wheels and lower offsets.

From what I researched, the low ends breytons are from china and are just gravity cast.

[BTM]

Yea I hear ya...putting it on won't significantly change your weight distribution as it is...corner balancing is very worth it in some applications but if your corners (LF + RR = RF + LR) are that out of balance to the point now where it would make a difference you would feel it...no "premium" suspension like bilstein is drastically gonna change that out of the box, barring an installation error.

[gary88]

Fall-Line will corner balance

[BTM]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

From what I researched, the low ends breytons are from china and are just gravity cast.

Hmm...I read something that Breytons were all LPGC...you could be right...you're obviously more motivated for the info than I am lol...or could simply be a case where people are using GC and LPGC as synonymous acronyms. Either way...the majority of the shock goes through the tire...stretching will only transmit more of it to the wheel.

[BTM]

Originally Posted by gary88

Fall-Line will corner balance

Mark...notice that's FOR SALE?!?! Red on black!?!?! Buy it you HOMO

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by gary88

Fall-Line will corner balance

I'll pass on ANYTHING fall-line unless it's something so specific no one else does it.

[BTM]

Impressive but expensive. I think your money is better spent than corner balancing...HPDE you will be going through maintenance items much faster...oil, brake fluid, brake pads, rotors, tires...until you get to the point where you can actually tell whether or not your corners are out of balance...I'd reallocate my resources towards those items

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

Yea vs does, I'm having A&L install my suspension and want it balanced

it'll probably just come back to you like this...