[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

going into my dealer today just to have them scan for codes on DME and give me a print out.

Going in with PROcede V3 fully installed, a BMS intake, and a cat back. . . .:finger:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141717

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by Numb3rs

Look where PROcede got you...! I hope Vishnu's warranty covers the cost of your components!

How is this Vishnu's fault at all? Are you a Dinan fanboy or SE/SI fanboy?

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141717

I didn't see this till now. I'm more than happy to admit that I have no intention to act tough and go to any dealership with my piggyback in. Nooooo way.

[0002s]

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

How is this Vishnu's fault at all? Are you a Dinan fanboy or SE/SI fanboy?

+1, could of been any piggyback...it was still installed.

[sirploppy]

I still give him props for going in with his mods on.

Better than the 90% of the people here that will bring thier car in, get their warranty denied after the techs determine a piggy back was used, then lie to them and say "I have NEVER had a piggy back on this car sir! How dare you accuse!"

Just accept the simple fact:

Piggy Back = Warranty Voided

That is how BMW wants it, and that is how it will be.

[V1.47fan]

You're only allowed to pick two: CHEAP, FAST, RELIABLE.

[Mondolemite]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

You're only allowed to pick two: CHEAP, FAST, RELIABLE.

I'll take fast and reliable, thanks.

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by lndshrk

Really? When was the last time you were actually IN a BMW Dealership.

(In the shop, with your eyes OPEN I mean)

When you go to a dealership - all of the tools are connected to a network
back to BMW AG.

This is how BMW knows what "I-Level" (think: programming version) your
car currently has. They have the records from production and they also
have the records of update from the dealerships.

BTW, what is a "DSC" besides Dynamic Stability Control?

there is the SSS, which is the Software Service Station

There is the DIS, the GT1.

All of which connect to the car via a little thing called a "diagnostic head"

Of which there are 3 versions.

OPPS, OPS, and the basic diagnostic head.

The SSS is what updates your car as is needed.

The "as is needed" is determined by the discs currently loaded.

That's gay if you know all that stuff unless you're a BMW tech,tuner etc.I usually don't go past the showroom floor.

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

Looks like I have to sneak in and disconnect my battery real quick while they're working on the car!

Why,you don't have the trunk monkey?

[Tuned335i]

Originally Posted by sirploppy

I still give him props for going in with his mods on.

Better than the 90% of the people here that will bring thier car in, get their warranty denied after the techs determine a piggy back was used, then lie to them and say "I have NEVER had a piggy back on this car sir! How dare you accuse!"

Just accept the simple fact:

Piggy Back = Warranty Voided

That is how BMW wants it, and that is how it will be.

Buddy, take it somewhere else - you're wasting your breath. Go back to the nice safe stock E9x forums...

And by the way, piggyback doesn't necessarily mean warranty voided by any means, so stop being so gloom-n-doom....every situation is unique.

[Valentine]

Blah Blah Blah I feel for ppl who had bad breaks but it's like saying "If you speed you will get a ticket". Yes if you are not smart about it you get the ticket. If you screw up and punch it at the wrong time you get a ticket. If you coast at 7 over you will likely not get a ticket unless you catch a bad break. Tuning is a series of calculated risks. I trust Shiv and his product so I have faith that the risk is minimal. When I go to the dealership I do what I can to lower the risk and then hope for the best. Saying that everyone with a tune will lose warranty is taking a small group of situations and blowing them out of proportion. Flame on fanboi.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

That's gay if you know all that stuff unless you're a BMW tech,tuner etc.I usually don't go past the showroom floor.

ummm, you can say he's a tuner... Jim (lndshrk)has been tuning BMWs for many many many years.
ever hear of the shark injector?

[ezatnova]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

That's gay if you know all that stuff unless you're a BMW tech,tuner etc.I usually don't go past the showroom floor.

Noob of the year award....awarded to ....YOU!

[fucema]

Originally Posted by bribro335iA

This is scary stuff. With the owner's loss of control of software updates BMW can retune/detune the car for any variety of purposes, including to otherwise avoid what may be legitimate warranty claims. For example, let's say that BMW determines that a well-known problem like the fuel pump failures can be all but eliminated if the engine performance is detuned 10%. What would prevent BMW from implementing the detunes through automatic software upgrades and thereby save a ton on dough on warranty repairs? How could an owner prove the car was detuned? Even if it could be proven, does an owner have any legal "right" to preserve the original performance specifications?

+1

This is a unique insight into another way that stealth updates can harm our car's performance without our knowledge.

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by ezatnova

Noob of the year award....awarded to ....YOU!

Thank-You!

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by Orient330iNYC

ummm, you can say he's a tuner... Jim (lndshrk)has been tuning BMWs for many many many years.
ever hear of the shark injector?

Nope and I'm on my 4th BMW.

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Nope and I'm on my 4th BMW.

[Neema]

so, any updates?

[kwakr738]

...so what is the skinny?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by kwakr738

...so what is the skinny?

That v3 should be diagnostically invisible

shiv

[kwakr738]

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