[jpsimon]

this is going to be awesome !

I loled' when this was the "oh by the way...". i can't believe 7 pages have been wasted talking about the other shit that doesn't matter.

Also, new Master Tuning software to be released in Feb for those who want custom tuned maps.

Things are going to change in a very awesome way soon.

[instag8tr]

Originally Posted by packinDSS

Lol with all due respect.....e90 is this site and the market. Im not surprised and nor should you be that the initial post was in E90.

I am not asking for the initial post just that a post is made in general. And don't get it twisted guys on 1addicts definitely spend the money on modding their cars.

[FlyingHorse]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I can't predict the price of used products anymore than I can predict what will and wont piss other people off lol.

But yes, if one doesn't update to V5, their Rev.2 should demand an especially high value in the used market since no VIN unlock is required to run v5 on another car AND since all future map activations will be free.

I never realized that purchasing a tune was so speculative!

Handdown to protect your old customers, and very smart move on making small profits on the used market.

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

lol.. no comment. But there are reasons for everything

Hmmm, this has nothing to do with ETS' rumored ST kit right?
Especially since you started carrying their IC...

[daixloxbmw]

So from all my research in this thread and the new ProcedeTuning website, it would appear that the Enthusiast version only contains 1 Autotuning map. However, does it have a Stock map and does it have the ability to switch between a Stock and Autotune map back and forth on the fly? Not sure if Stock is considered a map.

I don't plan to use NA, Meth, Nitrous or a second Autotuning map so I think the Enthusiast version is all I need provided that it still has the ability to revert back to Stock maps. It would be a shame if I had to pay for an upgrade just to get a Stock map. Shiv, can you confirm this?

Thanks!

[MusclezMarinara]

i mite have to jump lol

[Calvin@Vishnu]

Originally Posted by daixloxbmw

So from all my research in this thread and the new ProcedeTuning website, it would appear that the Enthusiast version only contains 1 Autotuning map. However, does it have a Stock map and does it have the ability to switch between a Stock and Autotune map back and forth on the fly? Not sure if Stock is considered a map.

I don't plan to use NA, Meth, Nitrous or a second Autotuning map so I think the Enthusiast version is all I need provided that it still has the ability to revert back to Stock maps. It would be a shame if I had to pay for an upgrade just to get a Stock map. Shiv, can you confirm this?

Thanks!

You are correct. The Enthusiast Procede comes with valet (map0) as well as a primary autotuning map (map1). Which frankly, will suit the needs of most users

-c

[Calvin@Vishnu]

Originally Posted by Amlethae

Shiv,

When I select "Order Now" on the N55 PnP Procede (Tuner Version) it takes me to an order page for the Enthusiast Version... seems like a glitch.

When will we see a list of the $50 "upgrades"? I just want the 2nd map and the NA mode on top of the Enthusiast Version... but if buying the Tuner Version garuntees I'm always good to go for the latest and greatest advancements I'll gladly spend the extra dough.

Man the changes are freaking awesome! I can't wait!

Fixed! Thanks for the heads up

[kennejp]

Does the switching from jb3 discount still apply to this price? Thanks

[Calvin@Vishnu]

Originally Posted by kennejp

Does the switching from jb3 discount still apply to this price? Thanks

Shiv still needs to work that out. The $645 price is lower than the previous discount but with less maps of course. I don't expect a $200 discount to be applied on top of that price as $445 seems ridiculous for a PnP procede. But I'm sure we will figure out something by Monday and post up.

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

At $645, you would be getting a fully functional Autotuning Procede with all the following features:
Plug and Play (PnP) Harness
AutoTuning
Vishnu Command Center
Closed-Loop Ignition Timing Control
Automatic Wastegate Compensation
In-Dash Multi-Informational Displays
On-the-fly Mapswitching
DME code reading/clearing
Built-in Wideband AFR Monitoring
High-Speed Datalogging
In-Dash Trouble Code Display
Isolated PID Boost Control
Speed Delimiter
Diagnostic Invisibility
Adjustable/Audible Shift Alert
Diagnostic Adaptation Resets
Wastegate Rattle Fix
20PSI Boost Limit
User Adjustability
Spark Retard 6AT Launch Control (NEW!)
Spark Retard Performance Traction Control (NEW!)

If you want the option of running the NA map, it's just $50 extra. Same with Progressive methanol and nitrous.

Cheers,
shiv

so this is enough for simple user with no meth and no nitrous? and later u can always update http://www.procedetuning.com/BMW/n54...nthusiast.html how that update works? u pay and u get what? u send something or how maybe i missed that

does this will include steering wheel buttons? or it will be later on v5 with new firmware?

[stren]

JP has it right. For those of you thinking this is about Terry reverse engineering the Procede - he would still be able to do that if he wanted. You can make it harder but you can never really stop it. This is really about supporting the tuning of turbo kits and protecting the custom tuning required for those kits. This prevents another tuning shop just assembling the same off the shelf parts, grabbing the map and reselling without having to absorb the R&D cost.

Think of where Vishnu is going with this. The new procede is designed to be flexible - see how quick it was to port to the N55. The idea has been to make it so that it's relatively easy to port between the different bmw turbo engines (this enables them to spend more time developing new features and staying ahead of the competition). This means you don't have to design a new tune from scratch every time.

From a software perspective essentially the DME is your computer processor. Vishnu has built an operating system e.g. windows and now only needs to build different drivers to make it run on different hardware e.g. intel or amd. The tuning shops can then come in and easily make the computer do what it wants without having to worry about how intel differs from AMD. Of course this is a bad comparison if you hate windows

Think how many turbo engines are coming our way: the new 4 cylinder turbos, the new M3 engine, the 550 engine tuning is presumeably under development from what shiv has said in the past. This also helps tuning shops like ETS who want to develop turbo kits for multiple different engines, because they will have a standard tuning interface to use. Less time spent on tuning for them means getting the kit to you sooner. If I were shiv I would be hiring and expanding like crazy to cover not only all of these but also the new ford turbos and all the other new turbos that will come shortly as companies try to increase performance and mpg simultaneously.

Originally Posted by jpsimon

this is going to be awesome !

I loled' when this was the "oh by the way...". i can't believe 7 pages have been wasted talking about the other shit that doesn't matter.



Things are going to change in a very awesome way soon.

[**335i**]

and old vishnu site http://www.vishnutuning.com/RevIICAN.htm

-Plug and Play harness
-AutoTuning
-User Adjustable
-On Dash mapswitch
-DME Code Clearing
-DME Code Reading
-CANbus datalogging
-Custom Tunable
-Map updating via laptop
-High Speed datalogging
-Built-in o2 modifier
-Speed delimiter
-Valet speed limiter
-Active Dash Displays
-Oil Temp monitoring
-Warm-up Protection
-Methanol Compatible
-Full Ignition, Fuel and Boost control


and now new:

Plug and Play (PnP) Harness
AutoTuning
Vishnu Command Center
Closed-Loop Ignition Timing Control
Automatic Wastegate Compensation
In-Dash Multi-Informational Displays
On-the-fly Mapswitching
DME code reading/clearing
Built-in Wideband AFR Monitoring
High-Speed Datalogging
In-Dash Trouble Code Display
Isolated PID Boost Control
Speed Delimiter
Diagnostic Invisibility
Adjustable/Audible Shift Alert
Diagnostic Adaptation Resets
Wastegate Rattle Fix
20PSI Boost Limit
User Adjustability
Spark Retard 6AT Launch Control (NEW!)
Spark Retard Performance Traction Control (NEW!)


i miss:

-Built-in o2 modifier
-Valet speed limiter
-Oil Temp monitoring
-Warm-up Protection
-Full Ignition, Fuel and Boost control

or does it all include for 645 ?

[daixloxbmw]

Originally Posted by Calvin@Vishnu

You are correct. The Enthusiast Procede comes with valet (map0) as well as a primary autotuning map (map1). Which frankly, will suit the needs of most users

-c

Perfect, exactly what I was hoping. Thanks for the quick reply!

[stren]

Note the previous thread about whether the procede could control secondary fuel injectors (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453945). Note also that the harness had to change for a mysterious reason (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450494).

What this means is that the procede will be supporting secondary fuel injectors for the big turbo kits that will need more fuel. Note also that the procede already supports meth and nitrous is still in progress. This means that the turbo developers will also get support for that for free without having to develop their own support.

So in the short term expect - ETS's big single to be supported by Procede, to support secondary fuel injectors, meth and nitrous.

In the medium term, expect more upgraded turbo projects for the N54 and N55

In the long term, expect procede support for many new engines (note from the website that 911 turbo support is coming) and that this will enable upgraded turbo kits *quickly* on all the new engines.

There is going to be a lot of fun coming soon.

[butters1234]

For v2 owners, I think shiv should add the following to the first post to clarify and aid folks from needing to read 8 pages.

All v2 owners (folks that bought thier procedes before x date) that choose to upgrade to v5 will have thier procedes locked to thier vin number. These procedes can be sold to other owners who can a) revert back to v4 and pay nothing but miss out on v5 and later features (currently NA and new spark stability control) or b) pay $150 to obtain an unlocked v5 that will then lock to the new owner. This vin locking feature will likely have a negative impact on resale value of v2s.

However, all v2 that upgrade to v5 (orginal owners or resale owners) will not have to pay any money for future significnat updates (no promises that this is forever as things change) that will be addon fees for all procedes bought from today on. This will likely have a positive impact on resale value.

[butters1234]

Awesome updates and changes to the pricing structure. Glad I am a v2 procede owner.

[Choolgooz]

awesome upgrades coming up. Thanks for the continued hard work.

[bryamill]

Shiv,

Are the N55 Procede's shipping pretty quickly? If ordered now? I know there was a huge backlog a few weeks ago.

[Calvin@Vishnu]

Originally Posted by bryamill

Shiv,

Are the N55 Procede's shipping pretty quickly? If ordered now? I know there was a huge backlog a few weeks ago.

We should be all caught up with n55 kits by the end of this week. We were making good progress last week but Turkey day go the best of us

[tmo24]

Ok, let me get this straight..... The new Procede V5 for $645 is supposed to be very similar in power gains as the JB3 for $529. But from what I have been reading, the Procede is an overall smoother power delivery and has autotuning, so no need for a bunch of different maps like on the JB3. And of course there are other differences. I am buying a tune in the next month so I want to make sure I am not missing anything major. I am the basic user that will not do a custom tune or add meth. Maybe DP's and exhaust and DCI. So from what I gather, I can expect pretty much the same power gains but smoother power delivery from the Procede? And it seems as clearing code capability is there and that the install is also very simple. If all this is correct, then I am in!

[Calvin@Vishnu]

Originally Posted by tmo24

Ok, let me get this straight..... The new Procede V5 for $645 is supposed to be very similar in power gains as the JB3 for $529. But from what I have been reading, the Procede is an overall smoother power delivery and has autotuning, so no need for a bunch of different maps like on the JB3. And of course there are other differences. I am buying a tune in the next month so I want to make sure I am not missing anything major. I am the basic user that will not do a custom tune or add meth. Maybe DP's and exhaust and DCI. So from what I gather, I can expect pretty much the same power gains but smoother power delivery from the Procede? And it seems as clearing code capability is there and that the install is also very simple. If all this is correct, then I am in!

That pretty much sums it but. But I'd say the Procede is more than just smoother. It's safer and far more developed in all areas.