[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by dsm25psi

Amen to that, Its funny reading these posts how guys are willing to spend $50k on cars but will complain about some of the pricing for the performance parts.

You can buy 335i's for under $20k, with about 40-50k miles. So that argument is pointless.

More and more people are getting into these cars for very cheap.

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Thanks Brian.. We might not have a huge following in the BMW market just yet but we have built a flawless reputation in several other markets.. We work with ETS , AMS, Vishnu, and several other companies that are top notch.. I dont settle for anything less than perfection.. If i thought these #'s were weak as round 1 #'s i would have kept them too myself.. However i get excited when i see some results and they look to be going the right direction from what i can see so far..

Mike

I can't wait to get our products released and get this show on the road. Great job Mike! Can't wait to see round 2.

[jjurroz]

have you considered an N55 application?

[dsm25psi]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

You can buy 335i's for under $20k, with about 40-50k miles. So that argument is pointless.

More and more people are getting into these cars for very cheap.

Never seen a 335i with 40,000 miles under 20k. But thats not the point. The point is don't buy a car that you cannot afford. Just because you can afford a 20k car does not mean you can by a BMW. ALL parts and maintenance is expansive for BMW, maybe you should stick with hondas and cheap ebay parts for them. I hate seeing complainers and lil bitches crying about how its soo expansive to work on BMW or buying parts, YOU BOUGHT A BMW. Thats whats wrong with our country right now, people buy shit they cannot afford.

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Your not paying attention to where the car makes 450hp.. a peak BUMP int he middle of the power band or the ENTIRE POWERBAND.. I will run any stock turbo 335i making the same power anytime.. Stock turbos DO NOT make power all the way thru the power band.. They peak and fall off.. if you want power to redline you have no choice but to upgrade turbos whether it be ours or anyones..

As far as 2400 for 2 billet turbos being highway robbery do some research.. for other platforms shuch as Porsche, Evo, GTR etc they are MUCH MUCH MORE $$$.. a single billet upgrade for an evo is 1500-2000.. GTR 5000.00 and Porsche 3200.00.. These are very fairly priced IMO..

Mike

Really? I had no idea.

Why would a billet upgrade be cheaper for a 997tt than an r35?

-scheherazade

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by dsm25psi

Never seen a 335i with 40,000 miles under 20k. But thats not the point. The point is don't buy a car that you cannot afford. Just because you can afford a 20k car does not mean you can by a BMW. ALL parts and maintenance is expansive for BMW, maybe you should stick with hondas and cheap ebay parts for them. I hate seeing complainers and lil bitches crying about how its soo expansive to work on BMW or buying parts, YOU BOUGHT A BMW. Thats whats wrong with our country right now, people buy shit they cannot afford.

Well, if you don't go to the dealer, BMW's are quite affordable.

Not as affordable as a honda when not going to the dealer... but still nothing like what a BMW dealer asks.

Think of it this way... See all the old BMW's driving around? They're usually not operated by the wealthiest of people.

Old M3's (e36 and e46) are cars for high school guys.
e36 M3's are in the single digit thousands
e46 M3's are in the teen thousands

Kids can afford to buy and maintain these cars.

-scheherazade

[Iwantm3]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Well, if you don't go to the dealer, BMW's are quite affordable.

Not as affordable as a honda when not going to the dealer... but still nothing like what a BMW dealer asks.

Think of it this way... See all the old BMW's driving around? They're usually not operated by the wealthiest of people.

Old M3's (e36 and e46) are cars for high school guys.
e36 M3's are in the single digit thousands
e46 M3's are in the teen thousands

Kids can afford to buy and maintain these cars.

-scheherazade

+1 He makes it sound like we're driving lambos

[techlogik]

Originally Posted by Clap135

same boost.

Lost marine also has something that looks similar to this at the same 19ish psi.

I'm assuming these guys are all on Meth..no way they are doing that on just race gas like AWD is doing 450 on 100oct. and bolt ons...

But maybe I am wrong.

AWDs post didn't show the meth was used on that one dyno...maybe that was a mistake?

[dsm25psi]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Well, if you don't go to the dealer, BMW's are quite affordable.

Not as affordable as a honda when not going to the dealer... but still nothing like what a BMW dealer asks.

Think of it this way... See all the old BMW's driving around? They're usually not operated by the wealthiest of people.

Old M3's (e36 and e46) are cars for high school guys.
e36 M3's are in the single digit thousands
e46 M3's are in the teen thousands

Kids can afford to buy and maintain these cars.

-scheherazade

lol kids, sure with parents credit card why not.
It does not matter what year BMW you got, parts for it will still be higher then your regular honda, right? right.

[import36]

AWD's current dynos were on bad plugs and no meth. i'm anticipating round 2 results are much more favorable...

[dsm25psi]

Knowing mike I know he will set some crazy 1/4 times on 335i

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by dsm25psi

lol kids, sure with parents credit card why not.
It does not matter what year BMW you got, parts for it will still be higher then your regular honda, right? right.

I knew high schoolers that over the course of working a few years while living at home put together that kind of money.

Look at the prices...
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1292949428431

I agree, you'll pay 50 bucks where you'd have paid 30...

-scheherazade

[dsm25psi]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I knew high schoolers that over the course of working a few years while living at home put together that kind of money.

Look at the prices...
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1292949428431

I agree, you'll pay 50 bucks where you'd have paid 30...

-scheherazade

hahaha Damn living at home i could buy a lambo easy.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by import36

AWD's current dynos were on bad plugs and no meth. i'm anticipating round 2 results are much more favorable...

+1, This sounds like a great setup and its not that expensive. I am expecting 475ish all the way to redline...if not more. He should be able to make that with a dual cm7nozzle or a single cm10. If not, it looks like its back to the drawing board for me.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I knew high schoolers that over the course of working a few years while living at home put together that kind of money.

Look at the prices...
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1292949428431

I agree, you'll pay 50 bucks where you'd have paid 30...

-scheherazade

You do realize that when you buy a car with that kind of miles that you are gonna have to dump another 2-5k into it to be running correctly. I know this because I have owned a 96 328is and a 01 330ci. Both of which cost me a FORTUNE after I hit 100k miles. Honestly its cheaper to buy a newer car with a CPO and dump it at 100k. I bought my 96 328is with 102k for 6500 and put atleast that in it by the time I hit 155k. Its stupid unless you work on the car yourself. Labor is what kills you.

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by dsm25psi

hahaha Damn living at home i could buy a lambo easy.

Yep. Most high schoolers (kids) do live at home.
Hence, old M3's can be [and are] purchased and operated by kids.
And there's nothing wrong with that. These are old cars after all.

Originally Posted by Penn999

Honestly its cheaper to buy a newer car with a CPO and dump it at 100k. I bought my 96 328is with 102k for 6500 and put atleast that in it by the time I hit 155k. Its stupid unless you work on the car yourself. Labor is what kills you.

I've had the opposite experience with old used cars (I love old beaters).
Spend next to nothing on the initial purchase.
The money spent maintaining the car for years never added up to the cost of new or CPO at the time that I got it.

I do mixed work. Some of my own, and the annoying stuff I take to mom&pop shops.
Most cases, other than timing belts, or when bolts are rusted shut, I look at 'cost of repairs' as 'cost of parts + annoyance of taking the time'.

-scheherazade

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Yep. Most high schoolers (kids) do live at home.
Hence, old M3's can be [and are] purchased and operated by kids.
And there's nothing wrong with that. These are old cars after all.




I've had the opposite experience with old used cars (I love old beaters).
Spend next to nothing on the initial purchase.
The money spent maintaining the car for years never added up to the cost of new or CPO at the time that I got it.
I do mixed work. Some of my own, and the annoying stuff I take to mom&pop shops.

-scheherazade

I guess you dont like your cars in good running order. Either that or you have had great luck. I have had to replace plugs, coils, lines, clutch, exhaust, suspension, the trim(always falls down and peels off on older cars), the interior is shit and is sagging down in the ceiling. Thats what I have experienced, not fun at all. The only money I have put into my 335i is mods. No maintenence, besides oil every 4k miles. But besides that, I will always go CPO from now on. Everybody is diff.

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by Penn999

I guess you dont like your cars in good running order. Either that or you have had great luck. I have had to replace plugs, coils, lines, clutch, exhaust, suspension, the trim(always falls down and peels off on older cars), the interior is shit and is sagging down in the ceiling. Thats what I have experienced, not fun at all. The only money I have put into my 335i is mods. No maintenence, besides oil every 4k miles. But besides that, I will always go CPO from now on. Everybody is diff.

I would consider that a very small (and cheap) to-do list.
When it comes to beaters, I stick to aftermarket replacements

But yeah, if you got all BMW original parts (and went to the dealer), you'd get hurt.

-scheherazade

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I would consider that a very small (and cheap) to-do list.
When it comes to beaters, I stick to aftermarket replacements

But yeah, if you got all BMW original parts (and went to the dealer), you'd get hurt.

-scheherazade

You cannot honestly tell me that replacing a clutch(even aftermarket) + labor is cheap.

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by Penn999

You cannot honestly tell me that replacing a clutch(even aftermarket) + labor is cheap.

Sachs has one for $240.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...2K7020601.html

Then spend a day of your weekend on it.
Or drop another $250 at a small neighborhood shop if you're too busy.

-scheherazade

[Overboost]

Hey guys... Isnt this AWD motorsports' thread lol... just kidding... found it funny how u guys went on about beaters when the tread is about Billet turbo internals.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

Sachs has one for $240.
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/de...2K7020601.html

Then spend a day of your weekend on it.
Or drop another $250 at a small neighborhood shop if you're too busy.

-scheherazade

I dont know where you get work done on your car but even the local shops labor rates around me are 100 and hour. You think the can drop the old clutch and get the new one back in in 2.5 hrs?? Thats some quick work.