Procede v5: new features/maps

vase330 · 06-13-2011, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainInsano

Already adjusted the rear wastegate. Like I said, there is no rattle when running a stock map. I ran through an entire tank of gas and couldn't get the wastegates to rattle once driving the piss out of the car on map0. As soon as I switch to map1 the rattlefest begins. Even sitting at idle I can hear them chattering away.

Thanks.

Don't you think you will be better off running 12-17 maps instead?

Glowin · 06-13-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Boost gain of 50, try it.

Thanks, I'm already at 50. You suggested that last week too, and I said:

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Originally Posted by Glowin

Thank goodness! Changing the Boost Gain from 45% to 50% made a difference, but it was slight. Not even close to the old maps. And I'm talking about going back to V4, 8-17 maps!

CaptainInsano · 06-13-2011, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vase330

Don't you think you will be better off running 12-17 maps instead?

I'll try switching to other maps tomorrow. I haven't actually changed maps since I received my Procede. It was shipped to me with 3-30.

import36 · 06-13-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dsbj

Yeah, no need to go to the dealer. Your, and my, wastegates are just fine. Problem is somehow related to the tune.

I just drive in Map 2 mostly. Whenever I cruise downtown (slow traffic, many people, and brick walls), I switch to Map 0 as to not cheapen the image. lol.

you guys are not the only ones. i emailed the issue to Shiv...was told to adjust the wastegate setting. i did this and found 60 to alleviate some of the rattle...but still sounds horrible during the conditions you mention above.

when i had taken the Procede out a few weeks prior for dealer visit(fuel system recall)....i experienced none of this rattle. when i reinstalled the Procede i switched back to 12-17...no rattle. uploaded 5-10 again....rattle is back. so...i'm going back to 12-17 and will probably remain there.

pits200 · 06-13-2011, 09:11 AM

Ya these new maps seem to be riddled with problems and I know they are beta but it is still disappointing.

Not much has been heard from shiv & co. in the past few days now at least from what I have seen.

import36 · 06-13-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pits200

Ya these new maps seem to be riddled with problems and I know they are beta but it is still disappointing.

Not much has been heard from shiv & co. in the past few days now at least from what I have seen.

these are beta maps...and i understand there may be bugs to work out. until a production map that works for my specific car comes out...i'm going back to the 12-17 map.

bimmertt · 06-13-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dsbj

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Originally Posted by CaptainInsano

Already adjusted the rear wastegate. Like I said, there is no rattle when running a stock map. I ran through an entire tank of gas and couldn't get the wastegates to rattle once driving the piss out of the car on map0. As soon as I switch to map1 the rattlefest begins. Even sitting at idle I can hear them chattering away.

Thanks.

Yeah, no need to go to the dealer. Your, and my, wastegates are just fine. Problem is somehow related to the tune.

I just drive in Map 2 mostly. Whenever I cruise downtown (slow traffic, many people, and brick walls), I switch to Map 0 as to not cheapen the image. lol.

I can almost guarantee you are running the latest dme software which hides the wastegate rattle. Changing the wastegate user adjustable setting in the procede accomplishes the same thing. If you were running an older version of the dme software, you would also hear your wastegates rattling.

import36 · 06-13-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmertt

I can almost guarantee you are running the latest dme software which hides the wastegate rattle. Changing the wastegate user adjustable setting in the procede accomplishes the same thing. If you were running an older version of the dme software, you would also hear your wastegates rattling.

i disagree. i was running the 5-10 maps and was experiencing horrible rattle. had to remove the Procede for dealer visit...fuel system recall...and during that time experienced zero rattling noises. got car back from the dealership with new dme software...still no rattle. installed Procede back in and the rattle returned. i reverted back to 12-17 maps....no rattle. i cannot explain it....but that is what i experienced. something in the DIC maps causes my car to rattle.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-13-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Glowin

Thanks, I'm already at 50. You suggested that last week too, and I said:

Still feels slow ? That's weird. I thought 50 was too much club so I backed down to 47. I still spin 30 and 40 mph rolls.

Then again I'm at 17 psi with meth.

Glowin · 06-13-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Still feels slow ? That's weird. I thought 50 was too much club so I backed down to 47. I still spin 30 and 40 mph rolls.

Then again I'm at 17 psi with meth.

Changing boost gain to 50 won't achieve the same effect, and I know it's not just my butt dyno being off, because Shiv himself said that he was going to revert back to old logic with the new maps.

vase330 · 06-13-2011, 04:46 PM

What new maps? Is there something out already? I am dying to get some new good maps.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-13-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Glowin

Changing boost gain to 50 won't achieve the same effect, and I know it's not just my butt dyno being off, because Shiv himself said that he was going to revert back to old logic with the new maps.

Ya I think the reason this happened was because something changed near the 3-30 maps where people were over-shooting boost to easily, so then something was backed down to avoid the over-shoots. Just a guess though.

vase330 · 06-13-2011, 04:54 PM

Does anyone know for sure the reason for the misfires and limp at WOT with the newer maps? I am just baffled as to what BMW did in the newer software. I have the last version of software just before the new one with the new DSC icon. Sorry don't know number this is only way I can describe it.

jason335777 · 06-13-2011, 05:51 PM

I literally had my software updated to the latest at BMW the day before I installed the Procede 5-10. I wonder if there are issues with the latest BMW put out?

vase330 · 06-13-2011, 06:23 PM

Just put the pedal to the metal and shift past 6500 rpm you will find out in short order if your car starts misfiring and or goes into limp mode, then there is an issue. If not, check for codes and if all seems happy let us know.

Glowin · 06-13-2011, 07:30 PM

Just saw that the new JB4 has a feature where you can set the exhaust flapper to stay open all the time! Shiv? That would totally beat having to undo the plug in the trunk all the time!

ridin135 · 06-13-2011, 09:03 PM

Been quite for a couple weeks now, something good should be in the works

s2k_335i · 06-13-2011, 11:15 PM

Shiv and the team been very quite for the past few weeks. I wonder what's up?

AltecBX · 06-13-2011, 11:21 PM

Vacation!

s2k_335i · 06-14-2011, 12:25 AM

I need a vacation after all these dramas i been experiencing.

Brey335i · 06-14-2011, 01:29 AM

Interesting. I'm also having wastegate rattle now. I'm gonna try to revert to old maps and see if it disappears

s2k_335i · 06-14-2011, 01:47 AM

you try the new 5-25 map?

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pits200 Colonel 555 Rep 2,598 Posts Drives: 09 335i X-Drive Black Sapphire Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (1)	Ya these new maps seem to be riddled with problems and I know they are beta but it is still disappointing. Not much has been heard from shiv & co. in the past few days now at least from what I have seen.
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vase330 Colonel 103 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	What new maps? Is there something out already? I am dying to get some new good maps. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede.
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vase330 Colonel 103 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	Does anyone know for sure the reason for the misfires and limp at WOT with the newer maps? I am just baffled as to what BMW did in the newer software. I have the last version of software just before the new one with the new DSC icon. Sorry don't know number this is only way I can describe it. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede.
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jason335777 Private 10 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pittsburgh iTrader: (0)	I literally had my software updated to the latest at BMW the day before I installed the Procede 5-10. I wonder if there are issues with the latest BMW put out? __________________ 2007 BMW 335i, Jet Black, Sport, 19" Wheels, custom trim, m shifter, Procede v5 Rev.3 369rwhp, Best 1/4 12.8 @ 108 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT, Supercharged (stage 2, 280whp), Full mods, meth, coilovers, wheels, full stereo 2004 Suzuki GSX-R600, flush signals, undertail delete, carbon fiber exhaust
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vase330 Colonel 103 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	Just put the pedal to the metal and shift past 6500 rpm you will find out in short order if your car starts misfiring and or goes into limp mode, then there is an issue. If not, check for codes and if all seems happy let us know. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede.
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Glowin Captain 83 Rep 978 Posts Drives: X3 35 & 335i now - M2/M4 next? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	Just saw that the new JB4 has a feature where you can set the exhaust flapper to stay open all the time! Shiv? That would totally beat having to undo the plug in the trunk all the time!
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06-14-2011, 01:29 AM	#175
Brey335i Banned 120 Rep 4,771 Posts Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (11)	Interesting. I'm also having wastegate rattle now. I'm gonna try to revert to old maps and see if it disappears
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