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      07-03-2011, 04:50 PM   #155
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Shiv, you might want to create a private forum on your website for those of us running the beta maps to more freely converse with one another. Then just ban those who refuse to follow the guidelines laid forth in the Read Me.
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      07-03-2011, 05:19 PM   #156
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Yup

Ever since BMW updated my software I have had this issue.

But try this and report back.

I reset my transmission adaptation today and pulled a log. The post shift recovery looked normal again.

I have a theory that as AT adaptation logic adapts to driving style, it shifts faster and harder which may invoke a post-shift timing drop if the DME is not liking the shift timing/increased load going into a taller gear.



Give it a whirl and see if the same happens to you.
I dont think its ecu software related because I am running one of the oldest ecu software 27.xx. I have reset the adaptations from 12-1 and when I do, it does show the timing to be normal again...Its after a few runs that the timing post shift goes to zero and flatlines.. I will reset it again but this time drive the car normal for awhile before I got WOT and then log it...Its not just doing it with these maps but its also doing this on the 12-17 maps..I have to further test to see what the hell is going on..When timing is normal the car rips but when this flatline 0 ignition happens, I can feel power loss...I will reset it and see..
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Make sure you do your runs in DS mode. Running in regular D mode will soften shifts by introducing timing retard. You will also see the same timing retard if your transmission is slipping. But that should only be the case in big turbo/high boost or Nitrous applications.
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Make sure you do your runs in DS mode. Running in regular D mode will soften shifts by introducing timing retard.
Will the upshift softening also introduce timing retard? I have it always on every single map set to 10%?
Maybe this is causing my timing drop of 0 ign
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Will the upshift softening also introduce timing retard? I have it always on every single map set to 10%?
Upshift softening has been disabled for ages. It did not induce ignition retard. It induced a short-term boost control DC% reduction.
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Shiv, you might want to create a private forum on your website for those of us running the beta maps to more freely converse with one another. Then just ban those who refuse to follow the guidelines laid forth in the Read Me.
Good idea kind sir.
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The traction control works like a charm on my 6MT. The car launches like an animal!
No issues whatsoever with the new maps.
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      07-03-2011, 06:20 PM   #162
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Shiv, you might want to create a private forum on your website for those of us running the beta maps to more freely converse with one another. Then just ban those who refuse to follow the guidelines laid forth in the Read Me.
great idea!
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The traction control works like a charm on my 6MT. The car launches like an animal!
No issues whatsoever with the new maps.
There should be no issues with the new maps. They have been tested extensively on both 6AT and 6MT applications. Both with stock and upgraded turbos. The only version of the map that may need some more testing/adjusting is the 7DCT since we have not been able to test on a 335is or euro 7DCT n54s.

The new traction controls system is pretty neat. It's been tested in 500+whp applications running stock runflats. And wheelspin is managed awfully well.
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      07-03-2011, 06:30 PM   #164
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Shiv, you might want to create a private forum on your website for those of us running the beta maps to more freely converse with one another. Then just ban those who refuse to follow the guidelines laid forth in the Read Me.
This is a great idea.
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There should be no issues with the new maps. They have been tested extensively on both 6AT and 6MT applications. Both with stock and upgraded turbos. The only version of the map that may need some more testing/adjusting is the 7DCT since we have not been able to test on a 335is or euro 7DCT n54s.

The new traction controls system is pretty neat. It's been tested in 500+whp applications running stock runflats. And wheelspin is managed awfully well.
When you planning to run the quarter again?
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Just updated to the 6-14 beta 6AT map and like it.

Better midrange, seems smoother overall too, and if I had to guess, the HP is up but the torque is fatter with a smoother curve.

Boost-wise, I'm getting a slight bump up between shifts which seems different than the last map which had the opposite effect. I likie
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I dont think its ecu software related because I am running one of the oldest ecu software 27.xx. I have reset the adaptations from 12-1 and when I do, it does show the timing to be normal again...Its after a few runs that the timing post shift goes to zero and flatlines..
Yes....that is what I meant. it acts normal just after a tranny reset, then goes back to flatlining shortly thereafter.

I just happened to notice this today after a reset.

Seems tranny related somehow...

I never had it before getting my software updated at the dealer, and I log weekly.
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Yes....that is what I meant. it acts normal just after a tranny reset, then goes back to flatlining shortly thereafter.

I just happened to notice this today after a reset.

Seems tranny related somehow...

I never had it before getting my software updated at the dealer, and I log weekly.
Thats the thing...My car has never been updated since I bought the car, so I think it has nothing to do with the software of the car...It has something to do with Procede and the shifts...I want to here from other AT users that are out there and do logs, but not the ones with upgraded turbos..
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      07-03-2011, 08:04 PM   #169
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I am also all for a beta tester only forum where we can openly discuss new maps etc...
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The new traction controls system is pretty neat. It's been tested in 500+whp applications running stock runflats. And wheelspin is managed awfully well.
Sorry if this question has been answered before (did a few search and nothing came up). What would be the best option to use Procede's traction control?

Do we use with BMW DSC & DTC on, DSC on & DTC off or DSC & DTC both off?
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Anyone else notice this from the readme?

"The default wastegate position is set to 90% as usual. If you have a wastegate rattle, you can drop this value to 30% to get rid of it. If you have no wastegate rattle, dropping this value will have no other effect than making your exhaust note louder."

AWESOME! Gonna have to try it.
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Shiv, is LAUNCH CONTROL in here, and if not, any plans to roll it out again?
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Sorry if this question has been answered before (did a few search and nothing came up). What would be the best option to use Procede's traction control?

Do we use with BMW DSC & DTC on, DSC on & DTC off or DSC & DTC both off?
Doesn't really matter. We have designed it so that combination will work.
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Anyone else notice this from the readme?

"The default wastegate position is set to 90% as usual. If you have a wastegate rattle, you can drop this value to 30% to get rid of it. If you have no wastegate rattle, dropping this value will have no other effect than making your exhaust note louder."

AWESOME! Gonna have to try it.
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Shiv, is LAUNCH CONTROL in here, and if not, any plans to roll it out again?
6AT launch control is there. It's never gone anywhere. Give it a try.
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Doesn't really matter. We have designed it so that combination will work.
Is there a particular combo though that's recommended? Like just pressing the DTC button once?

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6AT launch control is there. It's never gone anywhere. Give it a try.
Thanks, I've got a 6MT, but I recall you saying before it would work for us too technically. But now that I think of it, it might require some coordination to brake and tap the gas with the right foot, and let out the clutch, while tapping the buttons on the steering wheel...
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Doesn't really matter. We have designed it so that combination will work.
Fully default - DSC/DTC ON (didn't hit any buttons).

I let her wail in first today to give it a go and it still kicked in the BWM traction control and the BWM DTC hit the brakes. It felt like I had my foot on and off the gas. Mind you, I just tromped the gas in first.

Then other times, it worked like a charm - I think you still have to be careful putting your foot into it. Second works better I think.

I tried today to have one press on DTC and let er rip. It then didn't cut the gas and hit the brakes and this seemed to still work better in FIRST.

You can certainly feel the power come off, then come on.

Shiv, I still would like some guidance on if this is correct - should proceed be able to react fast enough to cut back the power in first gear?
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These maps are great! Back to instant power of the past

The read me was simply put. No issues. ;-)
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