E90Post
 


Coby Wheel
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > **First Time Tuners** Start Here** Official Misfire Thread| Updated!



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-13-2013, 07:46 PM   #155
1nityrider
Second Lieutenant
United_States
62
Rep
291
Posts

Drives: 2023 X4MC
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Paul

iTrader: (0)

Hi everyone. I will start by saying my car is bone stock 2008 335xi. I bought it at 60k miles. HPFP was done at 35k, some injectors where replaced around 25k. Don't know if or when valve cleaning was done. I started having sputtering/engine shaking and service engine light on around 63k miles. Codes said it was cylinder 6 misfiring. I changed all 6 plug. Around 64.5k miles it happen again. Cylinder 6. I changed the coil with a new one. 65k, again cylinder 6. But this time the SEL light have come on and stayed on. Car drives fine. I have an appointment with the dealer Thursday. Any ideas/suggestions?
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2013, 09:00 PM   #156
Jhalf
Private
2
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 08 335i e92
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Fairfax

iTrader: (0)

Hey guys, I have a very specific problem misfire problem.

I am getting a misfire on cylinder 6 only. I have swapped coils, and changed all plugs to no avail. The car feels and sounds like a cylinder is just not firing. If the misfire code is cleared, it will also come back right away. I need to have carbon cleaning done (66k miles and never been done).

This problem manifested itself on a 90 mile trip. It went from a slight hesitation, to full blown rough idling and service engine soon light in the last 50 miles of that trip.

1) I am assuming it is not the carbon build up causing this because it wouldn't cause catastrophic problems within 50 miles, right? It would take a few weeks, with misfires random at first, and hitting all the cylinders, not just Cylinder 6 like I am experiencing.

2) I am thinking now that it is probably the injector for Cylinder 6, does this sound right?

3) I did install the BMS OCC the day before the trip, but it was such a simple install, and I dont think messing with the PCV valve would cause a misfire right? Maybe I knocked the injector cable loose, when I installed, it since it does get installed right by Cylinder 6.

Anyone got any ideas?
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2013, 09:33 PM   #157
1nityrider
Second Lieutenant
United_States
62
Rep
291
Posts

Drives: 2023 X4MC
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Paul

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhalf View Post
Hey guys, I have a very specific problem misfire problem.

I am getting a misfire on cylinder 6 only. I have swapped coils, and changed all plugs to no avail. The car feels and sounds like a cylinder is just not firing. If the misfire code is cleared, it will also come back right away. I need to have carbon cleaning done (66k miles and never been done).

This problem manifested itself on a 90 mile trip. It went from a slight hesitation, to full blown rough idling and service engine soon light in the last 50 miles of that trip.

1) I am assuming it is not the carbon build up causing this because it wouldn't cause catastrophic problems within 50 miles, right? It would take a few weeks, with misfires random at first, and hitting all the cylinders, not just Cylinder 6 like I am experiencing.

2) I am thinking now that it is probably the injector for Cylinder 6, does this sound right?

3) I did install the BMS OCC the day before the trip, but it was such a simple install, and I dont think messing with the PCV valve would cause a misfire right? Maybe I knocked the injector cable loose, when I installed, it since it does get installed right by Cylinder 6.

Anyone got any ideas?
Your problem sounds kinda like mine. I am getting service engine light. Now seen half engine light. I am taking mine in Thursday, my guts it telling me it needs valve cleaning.
Appreciate 0
      05-14-2013, 09:17 AM   #158
Jhalf
Private
2
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 08 335i e92
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Fairfax

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1nityrider View Post
Your problem sounds kinda like mine. I am getting service engine light. Now seen half engine light. I am taking mine in Thursday, my guts it telling me it needs valve cleaning.
Could carbon cleaning problems manifest so quickly though?

Has anyone went from fine to very bad in 50 miles from carbon cleaning?

It can't be an injector though cause I would pull other codes though?
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 08:56 AM   #159
Jhalf
Private
2
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 08 335i e92
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Fairfax

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhalf View Post
Could carbon cleaning problems manifest so quickly though?

Has anyone went from fine to very bad in 50 miles from carbon cleaning?

It can't be an injector though cause I would pull other codes though?
I took the car into the shop tuesday, and it ended up being a faulty 6 injector.

They replaced the injectors with 6 new part numbers, which are also warrantied separately for two more years.

Car runs like a champ now. I didn't think a completely faulty injector would only cause a misfire code, but I guess it did.
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 09:09 AM   #160
Dinan_Bimmer
First Lieutenant
9
Rep
303
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NE USA

iTrader: (6)

dealer said mine was the coil, so go figure...
__________________
Pete
2009 335i Sedan BMW PK, 19"s, BMW perf Body kit, JB4, CF rear wing, CF Mirror caps
Blue Water Metallic w/Oyster Inside
2009 CTS-V "Eleanor's worst nightmare" Crystal Red w/ Lt Platinum
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 09:11 AM   #161
Rich150001
Lieutenant
112
Rep
463
Posts

Drives: 2016 M4
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Arlington (Ballston), Va

iTrader: (0)

My car is idling rough after throwing a misfire in cylinder 4. I've changed the spark plugs yesterday and will try changing the coilpacks today. The car has 45k miles on it currently. Hopefully it works or I suppose my next steps are to either replace the injectors and/or perform walnut blasting.
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 12:29 PM   #162
Jhalf
Private
2
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 08 335i e92
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Fairfax

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich150001 View Post
My car is idling rough after throwing a misfire in cylinder 4. I've changed the spark plugs yesterday and will try changing the coilpacks today. The car has 45k miles on it currently. Hopefully it works or I suppose my next steps are to either replace the injectors and/or perform walnut blasting.
PM me if you need a good SA.
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 04:48 PM   #163
1nityrider
Second Lieutenant
United_States
62
Rep
291
Posts

Drives: 2023 X4MC
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: St Paul

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich150001 View Post
My car is idling rough after throwing a misfire in cylinder 4. I've changed the spark plugs yesterday and will try changing the coilpacks today. The car has 45k miles on it currently. Hopefully it works or I suppose my next steps are to either replace the injectors and/or perform walnut blasting.
I took mine in today and they told me it was the intake vanos and low fuel pressure sensor. I told them to change the low fuel pressure sensor and I will change the vanos myself. I just bought the intake vanos but while waiting I will pull out the vanos and clean it.
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 04:58 PM   #164
fordperf
Private First Class
9
Rep
169
Posts

Drives: 2009 335xi LCI
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

great thread! if anyone cares to follow my misfiring story on my 2009 it is here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840983
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2013, 10:07 PM   #165
Rich150001
Lieutenant
112
Rep
463
Posts

Drives: 2016 M4
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Arlington (Ballston), Va

iTrader: (0)

I'm pretty happy right now. Replacing the coil for cylinder 4 worked! The car is running great again.
Appreciate 0
      06-03-2013, 02:22 PM   #166
alexwhittemore
Lieutenant Colonel
116
Rep
1,951
Posts

Drives: 2009 Crimson 328i
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JETBLK335i View Post
Hi all. hope this is the right thread, but can anyone tell me if this chart looks ok?

im running proceed REV 2.5 and DCI.

im going to replace the spark plugs as a starting point, but i am throwing the following codes

CD87, 29CD, 29CF, 29CC, CDA7
My apologies for the thread revival, but how did you switch inpa to english? My technical German is nicht so heiße.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      06-24-2013, 05:08 PM   #167
BlackonRed
Registered
0
Rep
1
Posts

Drives: 2007 Black on Red E93
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Long Beach

iTrader: (0)

I had a missfire issue running stage 2 with the Cobb Accessport 6 months ago. I changed the appropriate coil and it fixed the problem.
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2013, 01:43 AM   #168
manny330
Private
manny330's Avatar
2
Rep
66
Posts

Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: vancouver canada

iTrader: (1)

cylinder 3 misfire yes or no

2006 330i 92000kms,aa tune , secondary delete with sr midpipe and eissenmann rear,simota v1, suspension etc. n e ways pulled a misfire code cylinder 3, usual symptoms loss of power, low idle. did coil swap, then spark plug swap,rest both times and code kept reading misfire cylinder 3. then tested coils while car running to c if there was any rpm drop when i unplugged them, there was in 5 of them,interestingly the one that had no effect on the rpm was the one that i had originally swapped from the first misfire code in cylinder three.now why wouldnt the code have followed it to the other cylinder after i swapped it? i changed all 6 plugs while i was in there including the 1 coil and the car cleared itself of the cel after two cycles.
Appreciate 0
      07-03-2013, 11:49 AM   #169
Jeff@TopGearSolutions
Jeff@TopGearSolutions's Avatar
United_States
3467
Rep
79,211
Posts

Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com

iTrader: (37)

Quote:
Originally Posted by manny330 View Post
2006 330i 92000kms,aa tune , secondary delete with sr midpipe and eissenmann rear,simota v1, suspension etc. n e ways pulled a misfire code cylinder 3, usual symptoms loss of power, low idle. did coil swap, then spark plug swap,rest both times and code kept reading misfire cylinder 3. then tested coils while car running to c if there was any rpm drop when i unplugged them, there was in 5 of them,interestingly the one that had no effect on the rpm was the one that i had originally swapped from the first misfire code in cylinder three.now why wouldnt the code have followed it to the other cylinder after i swapped it? i changed all 6 plugs while i was in there including the 1 coil and the car cleared itself of the cel after two cycles.
That was a complete run on sentence.

What's your question? Last thing I read was the code is clear?
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2013, 05:05 AM   #170
AtlantaDude
Just enjoying my time
AtlantaDude's Avatar
United_States
128
Rep
855
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW E92 335i - Sold
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (0)

Awesome info! Thanks... I'm getting a random misfire and will now try these troubleshooting steps. Much appreciated.
__________________
Current - 2022 Rivian R1T, 2021 Ducati Streetfighter V4S, 1969 Chevy C10
Sold - 2018 Tesla Model 3 Performance
Sold - 2007 E92 335i

If speed is death, then buy a Honda and live forever
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 01:03 AM   #171
JDrago1926
335i Owner
60
Rep
839
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i 4 Door
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [0.00]
I had the codes for misfire cylinder 6 and then shut the car off... after shutting the car off I had misfire cylinder 3... I bought 6 OEM plugs to swap and 2 coils to swap... My car is idling weird though lately... making me think it's more fuel related... if the plugs and coils don't work... where do I go from there?
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 02:03 PM   #172
fordperf
Private First Class
9
Rep
169
Posts

Drives: 2009 335xi LCI
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JDrago1926 View Post
I had the codes for misfire cylinder 6 and then shut the car off... after shutting the car off I had misfire cylinder 3... I bought 6 OEM plugs to swap and 2 coils to swap... My car is idling weird though lately... making me think it's more fuel related... if the plugs and coils don't work... where do I go from there?
HP/LP fuel pumps? Filter?
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 04:57 PM   #173
JDrago1926
335i Owner
60
Rep
839
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i 4 Door
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by fordperf View Post
HP/LP fuel pumps? Filter?
I'm swapping my stock intake with a performance BMS DCI anyway... I'll do HPFP or injectors after this...
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 09:59 PM   #174
fordperf
Private First Class
9
Rep
169
Posts

Drives: 2009 335xi LCI
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JDrago1926 View Post
I'm swapping my stock intake with a performance BMS DCI anyway... I'll do HPFP or injectors after this...
I was referring to fuel filter, but ok. It all has to be checked
Appreciate 0
      07-07-2013, 10:53 PM   #175
JDrago1926
335i Owner
60
Rep
839
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i 4 Door
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by fordperf View Post
I was referring to fuel filter, but ok. It all has to be checked
Thanks! I wasn't sure I appreciate you clearing that up! I thought you meant DCI.
Appreciate 0
      07-08-2013, 08:42 PM   #176
fordperf
Private First Class
9
Rep
169
Posts

Drives: 2009 335xi LCI
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

I just brought my car back for like the 4th or 5th visit on the misfirings/jerky acceleration. And my car is bone stock. Last time they gave me all new injectors (the newest ones) so who knows what they will do this time :/
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST