Future BMW model information

saphirschwarz.f48 · 09-27-2023, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

It's marketing. There is always the base model, by definition. But now it could be called "Competition". Whatever.

And to think Competition was nothing more than an option package just generation ago

Artemis · 09-27-2023, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by saphirschwarz.f48

And to think Competition was nothing more than an option package just generation ago

Yup, BMW code "ZCP" (with strong German accent: "Zee Competition Pack").

saphirschwarz.f48 · 09-28-2023, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemis

Yup, BMW code "ZCP" (with strong German accent: "Zee Competition Pack").

Most of the option packages start with Z too… who say the Germans don’t have humor?

Simon04090 · 09-29-2023, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saphirschwarz.f48

Most of the option packages start with Z too… who say the Germans don’t have humor?

Don’t want to be the party crasher here. But I am pretty sure the Z comes from „Zusammenstellung“, which is combination in German.

ynguldyn · 10-03-2023, 02:33 PM

As an experiment, these are some (those I feel are more interesting) of the specifications of U10 X2 M35i:

Height: 1575mm
Length: 4567mm
Width w/o mirrors: 1845mm
Headroom: 1018mm/943mm
Legroom: 1024mm/933mm
Luggage: 560L/1470L
Curb weight: 1695kg

brad850csi · 10-04-2023, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

As an experiment, these are some (those I feel are more interesting) of the specifications of U10 X2 M35i:

Height: 1575mm
Length: 4567mm
Width w/o mirrors: 1845mm
Headroom: 1018mm/943mm
Legroom: 1024mm/933mm
Luggage: 560L/1470L
Curb weight: 1695kg

Versus F39:

Height: 1526mm - 50mm shorter
Length: 4360mm - 200mm shorter, quite a big difference
Width w/o mirrors: 1824mm 20mm narrower
Headroom: 1016mm/940mm about the same (converted from inches)
Legroom: 1016mm/940mm about the same (converted from inches)
Luggage: 470L/1355L 90l less, quite a big difference
Curb weight: 1615kg 80kg lighter

So basically the usual story, close to the larger car up from a generation or two ago.

Bemari · 10-05-2023, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

G60

In production until 06/30.
11/23: adding worldwide 530e (B48M2+EM, 295hp), 530e xDrive, and 550e xDrive (B58U2+EM, 480hp), US 540i xDrive (B58M2, 370hp) and 550e xDrive.

BMW Germany website reveals that 530e xDrive will not have SOP 11/23 like the G60 list above suggests, there are only 530e and 550e xDrive. This is very weird from BMW, usually such removals are not done this late and I have not found any logical reason for that.

Maybe the SOP was postponed to 03/24, because the xDrive version of 530e is very popular in Europe (especially in Northern) and BMW simply can't skip it. Do you ynguldyn see any reason for this SOP postponement or other information?

Additionally, is it sure (well, what is) that M560e xDrive will not be sold in Europe?

Thanks for your input.

ynguldyn · 10-05-2023, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Juvi

BMW Germany website reveals that 530e xDrive will not have SOP 11/23 like the G60 list above suggests, there are only 530e and 550e xDrive. This is very weird from BMW, usually such removals are not done this late and I have not found any logical reason for that.

Maybe the SOP was postponed to 03/24, because the xDrive version of 530e is very popular in Europe (especially in Northern) and BMW simply can't skip it. Do you ynguldyn see any reason for this SOP postponement or other information?

Additionally, is it sure (well, what is) that M560e xDrive will not be sold in Europe?

Thanks for your input.

530ex has been postponed to July 2024. M560ex no longer exists.

(Tracking changes is more difficult for me than the initial release plans, which is why I missed it.)

NGT2 · 10-10-2023, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

530ex has been postponed to July 2024. M560ex no longer exists.

(Tracking changes is more difficult for me than the initial release plans, which is why I missed it.)

Do you have any idea why the M560ex has been scrapped?

V-Eight · 10-12-2023, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NGT2

Do you have any idea why the M560ex has been scrapped?

A reason could be its high production costs vs expected sales....as a customer near the "elctrification way of thinking" would go for the i5 M60 in my opinion.

NGT2 · 10-12-2023, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by V-Eight

A reason could be its high production costs vs expected sales....as a customer near the "elctrification way of thinking" would go for the i5 M60 in my opinion.

I’m not against EV. But I like the sensations of ICE and the range isn’t reliable enough for me on a more practical vehicle. And I’m young. In my mind, there’s time for EV later. I want to soak up ICE, now.

By practical, I mean I could commute with an EV, no problem, but it wouldn’t suit a 500 mile road trip with a family of 4 and all our stuff. I don’t want my time taken by charging and I want freedom to pick my routes. When range, charging time, and accessibility to chargers is improved then I’ll be more accepting of driving a electric Suburban or X7, etc.

My daily commuter is an M550 and I just enjoy the noise, shifts, and feel of the powerful engine working with the transmission.

tsbrown · 10-16-2023, 02:18 PM

ynguldyn
Is there a RWD only 540i in the plan for US? I’ve only ever seen 540i x drive for G60 so if we want that engine we have to go awd?

ynguldyn · 10-16-2023, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tsbrown

ynguldyn
Is there a RWD only 540i in the plan for US? I’ve only ever seen 540i x drive for G60 so if we want that engine we have to go awd?

xdrive only.

OUGrad05 · 10-16-2023, 09:01 PM

Is the next gen M3 fully electric? I've now read several conflicting reports that they were going to do fully electric. Then it was a fully electric version plus a hybrid version. This weekend I read a full EV and a petrol only version

Quadruple VANOS · 10-17-2023, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OUGrad05

Is the next gen M3 fully electric? I've now read several conflicting reports that they were going to do fully electric. Then it was a fully electric version plus a hybrid version. This weekend I read a full EV and a petrol only version

Probably safe to assume the M3 will be fully electric when and not until the 3 Series is fully electric.

ipso_facto · 10-17-2023, 06:15 PM

I am thinking of changing my 520d F10 in 2024. I am at 190k miles now and am planning to top out around 205k miles. I had new rear tyres and a major service in August and booked for fronts to be replaced in November.

I live in the UK. I was wondering when the LCI 1 series is due? Looking at the car mags online, there are the “spy shots” of the obfuscated paintwork and guess work renderings, but I can’t see any solid info regarding when it’s due in the UK. Can anyone enlighten me as to when the next 1 is planned for release?

Cheers in advance !

ynguldyn · 10-17-2023, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ipso_facto

I am thinking of changing my 520d F10 in 2024. I am at 190k miles now and am planning to top out around 205k miles. I had new rear tyres and a major service in August and booked for fronts to be replaced in November.

I live in the UK. I was wondering when the LCI 1 series is due? Looking at the car mags online, there are the “spy shots” of the obfuscated paintwork and guess work renderings, but I can’t see any solid info regarding when it’s due in the UK. Can anyone enlighten me as to when the next 1 is planned for release?

Cheers in advance !

The answer is as easy as reading the top post.

ramparts · 10-18-2023, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ipso_facto

I am thinking of changing my 520d F10 in 2024. I am at 190k miles now and am planning to top out around 205k miles. I had new rear tyres and a major service in August and booked for fronts to be replaced in November.

I live in the UK. I was wondering when the LCI 1 series is due? Looking at the car mags online, there are the “spy shots” of the obfuscated paintwork and guess work renderings, but I can’t see any solid info regarding when it’s due in the UK. Can anyone enlighten me as to when the next 1 is planned for release?

Cheers in advance !

SOP July 2024, so deliveries for the uk early September 2024

ynguldyn · 10-21-2023, 01:54 AM

Some key dimensions for G61:

Length: 5060mm
Rear overhang: 1120mm
Height: 1515mm
Luggage volume: 570l/1700l

Curb weight: 520d - 1835kg, 520dx - 1895kg, i5 e40 - 2180kg, i5 M60 - 2350kg.

ramparts · 10-21-2023, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Some key dimensions for G61:

Length: 5060mm
Rear overhang: 1120mm
Height: 1515mm
Luggage volume: 570l/1700l

Curb weight: 520d - 1835kg, 520dx - 1895kg, i5 e40 - 2180kg, i5 M60 - 2350kg.

11.2cm overhang. Baby got back

BimmerMat135 · 10-21-2023, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Some key dimensions for G61:

Length: 5060mm
Rear overhang: 1120mm
Height: 1515mm
Luggage volume: 570l/1700l

Curb weight: 520d - 1835kg, 520dx - 1895kg, i5 e40 - 2180kg, i5 M60 - 2350kg.

The cargo volume seem to be on the low side for such a large car!

Quadruple VANOS · 10-21-2023, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Some key dimensions for G61:

Length: 5060mm
Rear overhang: 1120mm
Height: 1515mm
Luggage volume: 570l/1700l

Adding context…
X3 luggage volume: 812l/1775l

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