BMW CODING success

Rotorocious · 03-02-2011, 07:13 PM

Random Question.
Twice now, I'm gone to lean in to my car, (locked, windows down, key fob in pocket). Didn't even touch the door handle. As I'm leaning over, the window rolls up automatically, crushes my gut and the sun roof closes as well. What the hell, is this some sort of anti theft feature?

Confused. Or does my car just hate me

1QuikWS6 · 03-02-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotorocious

Random Question.
Twice now, I'm gone to lean in to my car, (locked, windows down, key fob in pocket). Didn't even touch the door handle. As I'm leaning over, the window rolls up automatically crushes my gut and the sun roof closes as well. What the hell, is this some sort of anti theft feature?

Confused. Or does my car just hate me

Do you have the factory alarm? Cause if you did, it should have went off based on your description due to interior ultrasonic sensor.

I never heard of this happening, did you code you windows/sunroof to auto close from the fob?

If so, it is possible (but not probable) that the button got pushed while it was in your pocket and bending over...

Rotorocious · 03-02-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

Do you have the factory alarm? Cause if you did, it should have went off based on your description due to interior ultrasonic sensor.

I never heard of this happening, did you code you windows/sunroof to auto close from the fob?

If so, it is possible (but not probable) that the button got pushed while it was in your pocket and bending over...

Bought it used about a year ago. Completely stock as far as I know when I bought it.
No factory alarm.
Haven't been coded, but looking in to it.
Possible but unlikely, the first time this happened the key fob was sitting on the sunroof.

I've also noticed the doors lock or unlock (unsure, i just hear the noise, windows are up already, but ill try it with the windows down as a test next time) when I wash the car and spray the doors. Even if I'm far away, it makes the car lights flash. Wonder if that's related, some sort of water spray detection lol.

onebadmofo · 03-02-2011, 07:27 PM

You have comfort access. There's a little groove on door handles that if you touch and hold your windows will roll up. Sometimes they can be oversensitive.

BTW you don't have to put the key in ignition to start the car

1QuikWS6 · 03-02-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

You have comfort access. There's a little groove on door handles that if you touch and hold your windows will roll up. Sometimes they can be oversensitive.

BTW you don't have to put the key in ignition to start the car

That's what I thought at 1st - but he stated he didn't touch the door handles when this happened - they can't be that oversensitive that they just detect a 'presence'

Rotorocious · 03-02-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadmofo

You have comfort access. There's a little groove on door handles that if you touch and hold your windows will roll up. Sometimes they can be oversensitive.

BTW you don't have to put the key in ignition to start the car

Bravo!
I knew I had CA just never knew about the ridges on the door handle above the key hole. Always thought that was for grip or something. Pretty cool.

^Ridges.

Guess it was just overly sensitive, or maybe my jeans touched the ridges. I was over the middle of the door both these times tho. Went out and tried it and worked just like you said. It locked and closed the windows. It's such a shame it is sooo close to rolling up the windows on its own but can't do it on the fob with out coding.

Thanks

xxxjecxxx · 03-02-2011, 08:26 PM

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Bravo!
I knew I had CA just never knew about the ridges on the door handle above the key hole. Always thought that was for grip or something. Pretty cool.

^Ridges.

Guess it was just overly sensitive, or maybe my jeans touched the ridges. I was over the middle of the door both these times tho. Went out and tried it and worked just like you said. It locked and closed the windows. It's such a shame it is sooo close to rolling up the windows on its own but can't do it on the fob with out coding.

Thanks

I wish I had your luck lol

Pseudo Nim · 03-02-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

Umm..you positive you have the wires for the paddle shifter? I am talking about the connector that connect to the steering hub in the botton (behind bottom steering wheel cover)?

Pretty sure I do.

The paddles have their own connector that plugs into the MF buttons; which, in turn, plug into a harness in the steering column. Is that what you're talking about?

DESI4life10 · 03-02-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Pretty sure I do.

The paddles have their own connector that plugs into the MF buttons; which, in turn, plug into a harness in the steering column. Is that what you're talking about?

The connector for the mf always has all the pins present. However the main connector that connects to the steering hub at the bottom may not always have the 2 wires for the paddle shifter.

Pseudo Nim · 03-02-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

The connector for the mf always has all the pins present. However the main connector that connects to the steering hub at the bottom may not always have the 2 wires for the paddle shifter.

Hmmm. I will check, but the MF that I took out of my wheel was actually missing the 3 pins for paddles --- and the one I put in _does_ have the extra 3 pins into which the paddles plug in. So I would expect it to be properly wired...

DESI4life10 · 03-02-2011, 09:15 PM

Yea..i am not talking about that.

There is a connector that attaches to the hub, that does not always have the wire. There is a thread about this..trying to find it

DESI4life10 · 03-02-2011, 09:18 PM

read this thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=paddle

What I am talking about is picture number 6 on the 2nd post.

If the 2 slots are empty, then you don't have the paddle wires running to the computer and thus can't code it.
I had it on mines, but I have the harness installed right now (don't feel like opening it up)

Pseudo Nim · 03-02-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

read this thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=paddle

What I am talking about is picture number 6 on the 2nd post.

If the 2 slots are empty, then you don't have the paddle wires running to the computer and thus can't code it.
I had it on mines, but I have the harness installed right now (don't feel like opening it up)

Ahh yes, I thought you'd bring this one up. I _do_ have those wires (that's why I thought that it SHOULD be possible to code). So I'm really confused.

DESI4life10 · 03-02-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

Ahh yes, I thought you'd bring this one up. I _do_ have those wires (that's why I thought that it SHOULD be possible to code). So I'm really confused.

I see.

Umm..I am running dry now on this..lol. Gotta be a way.

Pseudo Nim · 03-02-2011, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

I see.

Umm..I am running dry now on this..lol. Gotta be a way.

yup. i wonder if there's any way to somehow test with a multimeter whether the paddles are actually sending signals or not.

woodpecka · 03-03-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

yup. i wonder if there's any way to somehow test with a multimeter whether the paddles are actually sending signals or not.

Yes it's possible, do it on the steering wires disconnected. I did it on mine before I installed it.

DESI4life10 · 03-03-2011, 08:31 AM

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Yes it's possible, do it on the steering wires disconnected. I did it on mine before I installed it.

Wouldn't that give you an airbag warning since to get access to the wires, the airbag has to be off.

When the airbag is disconnected while the battery is connected, you will get the airbag error. I suppose you can clear that code using INPA, but not sure.

woodpecka · 03-03-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

Wouldn't that give you an airbag warning since to get access to the wires, the airbag has to be off.

When the airbag is disconnected while the battery is connected, you will get the airbag error. I suppose you can clear that code using INPA, but not sure.

Yes, it's safer for your security to disconnecting the battery.

DESI4life10 · 03-03-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by woodpecka

Yes, it's safer for your security to disconnecting the battery.

Sorry I may have confused ya here. with my comment

Are you talking about doing the coding with the paddle shifters dissconnected first? Code the car for paddles and then install the paddles after?

Thanks

Pseudo Nim · 03-03-2011, 09:11 AM

Airbag warning _CAN_ be cleared with INPA, or the BT Tool, so no issue there.

I dunno. I would assume that the two wires DESI referred to in his post (the two yellow wires in that pic which are missing on some and present on others) are live - what would be the point of wiring them up and leaving them dead? So if they are there, they must be 'active'. But then ... it does not make sense that adding $2XA, the paddled wheel, to the VO does nothing.

gargh. I don't want to manually rewire the car. It's such a .. barbaric option now that we have NCS expert

AW128i · 03-03-2011, 01:28 PM

OK, finally got my cable this past weekend and made my first attempt at coding the car. Couldn't get INPA to work, but have read that some people are still able to get NCSEXPERT to work anyway. No go. I get the following error message when trying to read the car via NCSEXPERT. I followed the installation DIY to a 'T' and didn't seem to encounter any problems. This is on a native XP SP3 installation using the "eBay" cable most on this thread seem to be using. I looked through every page of this thread and can't seem to find any reference to this specific error. If I missed it, please accept my redundant post.

outie · 03-03-2011, 02:23 PM

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OK, finally got my cable this past weekend and made my first attempt at coding the car. Couldn't get INPA to work, but have read that some people are still able to get NCSEXPERT to work anyway. No go. I get the following error message when trying to read the car via NCSEXPERT. I followed the installation DIY to a 'T' and didn't seem to encounter any problems. This is on a native XP SP3 installation using the "eBay" cable most on this thread seem to be using. I looked through every page of this thread and can't seem to find any reference to this specific error. If I missed it, please accept my redundant post.

Do you get 2 black circles on Battery and Ignition in INPA?

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onebadmofo Colonel 353 Rep 2,394 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (14)	You have comfort access. There's a little groove on door handles that if you touch and hold your windows will roll up. Sometimes they can be oversensitive. BTW you don't have to put the key in ignition to start the car
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DESI4life10 Banned 203 Rep 3,328 Posts Drives: Coding: Desi4life10@gmail.com Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West of Toronto, Canada iTrader: (18)	Yea..i am not talking about that. There is a connector that attaches to the hub, that does not always have the wire. There is a thread about this..trying to find it
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DESI4life10 Banned 203 Rep 3,328 Posts Drives: Coding: Desi4life10@gmail.com Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West of Toronto, Canada iTrader: (18)	read this thread http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=paddle What I am talking about is picture number 6 on the 2nd post. If the 2 slots are empty, then you don't have the paddle wires running to the computer and thus can't code it. I had it on mines, but I have the harness installed right now (don't feel like opening it up)
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Pseudo Nim twinborific 120 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: fast, sometimes slow Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: i am a citizen of the world iTrader: (9)	Airbag warning _CAN_ be cleared with INPA, or the BT Tool, so no issue there. I dunno. I would assume that the two wires DESI referred to in his post (the two yellow wires in that pic which are missing on some and present on others) are live - what would be the point of wiring them up and leaving them dead? So if they are there, they must be 'active'. But then ... it does not make sense that adding $2XA, the paddled wheel, to the VO does nothing. gargh. I don't want to manually rewire the car. It's such a .. barbaric option now that we have NCS expert __________________ Doko ni itemo, hito wa tsunagatte iru...
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AW128i Major 50 Rep 1,003 Posts Drives: E82 N51 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Southeastern, PA iTrader: (1)	OK, finally got my cable this past weekend and made my first attempt at coding the car. Couldn't get INPA to work, but have read that some people are still able to get NCSEXPERT to work anyway. No go. I get the following error message when trying to read the car via NCSEXPERT. I followed the installation DIY to a 'T' and didn't seem to encounter any problems. This is on a native XP SP3 installation using the "eBay" cable most on this thread seem to be using. I looked through every page of this thread and can't seem to find any reference to this specific error. If I missed it, please accept my redundant post. Attached Images
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