E91s For Sale

.RJ · 06-11-2019, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mad1stgen

Why did they reject it ?

They didnt provide any reason, and then didnt respond to my follow up emails so....

I'm guessing its because I put a lot of care into putting the car together and its not a janky/rusty/poorly assembled shitbox as so many of those BaT cars are.

86Zed · 06-11-2019, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by .RJ

They didnt provide any reason, and then didnt respond to my follow up emails so....

I'm guessing its because I put a lot of care into putting the car together and its not a janky/rusty/poorly assembled shitbox as so many of those BaT cars are.

It's a modified example of a non sports-car platform, plain and simple. Not a great history of those types of auctions for BaT, plus they keep a cadence of certain platforms (usually...) and may have few wagons in wait.

Yank off the tune and intake bits and it becomes a lot friendlier to an audience less in the know

mad1stgen · 06-11-2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Zed

...Yank off the tune and intake bits and it becomes a lot friendlier to an audience less in the know

Audience less in the know is not paying $21k for an N52 wagon. Now if it were an N54 car ...

.RJ · 06-11-2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 86Zed

It's a modified example of a non sports-car platform, plain and simple. Not a great history of those types of auctions for BaT, plus they keep a cadence of certain platforms (usually...) and may have few wagons in wait.

Yank off the tune and intake bits and it becomes a lot friendlier to an audience less in the know

But a modified E30 touring with a shady AF title history is ok? It doesnt seem to add up, but hey, its their site and they seem to be doing just fine.

If the answer is "we just moved 2 E91's and have 3 more in the queue, check in with us in a few months" then thats pretty reasonable IMO.

.RJ · 06-11-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mad1stgen

Audience less in the know is not paying $21k for an N52 wagon. Now if it were an N54 car ...

Well, they paid $22k for one yesterday. I dont expect I'll get my number though.

mad1stgen · 06-11-2019, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by .RJ

Well, they paid $22k for one yesterday. I dont expect I'll get my number though.

That was the audience in "all" the know aka BaT. I meant your typical autotrader buyers

E91WAG3N · 06-11-2019, 05:39 PM

The market seems to be about the same that is has been for the past year or two. When sellers know what they have, from my obeservation the breakdown has looked something like this:

40k: EAG M Sport 6MT RWD unicorn with low mileage
Mid to high 20's: LCI M Sport 6MT RWD/xDrive with lower mileage (50-75k)
High teens to low 20's: LCI 6MT RWD/xDrive with lower mileage (50-75k)
Mid to high teens: 6MT RWD/xDrive with higher mileage (70-100k)
Low to mid teens: 6MT RWD/xDrive pre-LCI

Sport package cars and premium color combos (rare doesn't equal desirable) seem to fall in the higher ranges of the bands.

Mods don't really seem to make much difference in the sale price.

There are of course deals to be found and exceptions, I recall an accident repaired but still clean titled 6MT Le Mans listed for $21k or something that sold in 24 hours.

I think there are more buyers out there than sellers, but most buyers seem ready to wait to find a good deal. I personally paid on the higher end but found a car with exactly the options I wanted along with a full maintenance history.

It takes the right buyer to come along though. Banks and credit unions won't finance the higher end of the spectrum, for example 22k on the BaT car. It has to be a cash or 50% cash buyer because on paper these cars aren't anything special to insurance companies, which limits your pool of buyers.

Generally I think the lower mileage cars are holding value but some of the higher mile cars are slipping. There have been a few listings of nice cars that just aren't selling quickly and have 80-100k on them.

I'm still holding out for a second wagon, a pre-LCI 6MT in red. I've expanded my search to include 6MT E83's though since I want something I can treat more as a beater and not feel guilty if it catches a ding or scratch.

mattpete13 · 06-12-2019, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by .RJ

$22K, closed today....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2011-bmw-328-20/

Holy shit!

Why was yours rejected by bat?

.RJ · 06-12-2019, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mattpete13

Holy shit!

Why was yours rejected by bat?

They wouldnt say. I suspect because they've had a number of E91's come through lately and maybe they have more in the queue.

TrackRat951 · 06-12-2019, 10:55 AM

Didn't see this one mentioned previously - has anyone checked it out? Seems too good to be true.

LA car on Bay of E

bladsville · 06-12-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat951

Didn't see this one mentioned previously - has anyone checked it out? Seems too good to be true.

LA car on Bay of E

Whats so hard to believe?

TrackRat951 · 06-12-2019, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bladsville

Whats so hard to believe?

Sub-100k mile, sport package, California, LCI wagon for <$8k. Maybe I haven't been looking hard enough, lately, but that seems like a really good deal.

rjaudi · 06-12-2019, 12:18 PM

Just how much does the manual effect value? I know its a big deal, but 5k? 10k? I just got a pretty good deal on a loaded Msport xdrive auto with 38k miles and will decide whether to keep it long term or sell it.

rothwem · 06-12-2019, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat951

Sub-100k mile, sport package, California, LCI wagon for <$8k. Maybe I haven't been looking hard enough, lately, but that seems like a really good deal.

Yeah, but its an auction with 4 days left.

Also its a beige interior with no xenons or heated seats.

ppointer · 06-12-2019, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by .RJ

They didnt provide any reason, and then didnt respond to my follow up emails so....

I'm guessing its because I put a lot of care into putting the car together and its not a janky/rusty/poorly assembled shitbox as so many of those BaT cars are.

If it was a 15 year old Toyota SUV, they would have jumped all over it (yes I am a little salty they turned down my e46 wagon late last year).

E91WAG3N · 06-12-2019, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by .RJ

They wouldnt say. I suspect because they've had a number of E91's come through lately and maybe they have more in the queue.

Too high of a reserve is usually the most common other reason. My e82 was rejected for that reason a couple years back.

4 Doors · 06-12-2019, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rjaudi

Just how much does the manual effect value? I know its a big deal, but 5k? 10k? I just got a pretty good deal on a loaded Msport xdrive auto with 38k miles and will decide whether to keep it long term or sell it.

+1, I am really curious what is a reasonable price difference? Or what should we expect to pay private party?

E91WAG3N · 06-12-2019, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TrackRat951

Sub-100k mile, sport package, California, LCI wagon for <$8k. Maybe I haven't been looking hard enough, lately, but that seems like a really good deal.

It’s an auction with 3 days left....

E91WAG3N · 06-12-2019, 11:38 PM

Cheap 6MT with high miles

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto...906513076.html

redEYEjedi · 06-13-2019, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rjaudi

Just how much does the manual effect value? I know its a big deal, but 5k? 10k? I just got a pretty good deal on a loaded Msport xdrive auto with 38k miles and will decide whether to keep it long term or sell it.

Keep it and swap the transmission. That's what I would do if I was in your shoes, depending on the interior color. If it's tan or grey interior sell it now while it's easier due to the low mileage.

///Mangler · 06-13-2019, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by .RJ

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Originally Posted by 4 Doors

Also, there is a super clean auto, M-Sport, white exterior with rotbraun swapped interior, 85k mile E91 near me that I might regret not buying.

Given the price deltas you could buy a nice auto car and pay a shop to swap the gearbox for same money.

My car was rejected by BaT, so its off to Autotrader - https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=518868622

Why would they reject that? It's beautiful, 6mt and low miles.

T

.RJ · 06-13-2019, 02:44 PM

Who knows. I've gotten about 10 emails/calls in 2 days from the autotrader ad, so I hope it moves out soon.

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E91WAG3N Wagon Addict 1249 Rep 1,217 Posts Drives: E39, E91, E91 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (2)	The market seems to be about the same that is has been for the past year or two. When sellers know what they have, from my obeservation the breakdown has looked something like this: 40k: EAG M Sport 6MT RWD unicorn with low mileage Mid to high 20's: LCI M Sport 6MT RWD/xDrive with lower mileage (50-75k) High teens to low 20's: LCI 6MT RWD/xDrive with lower mileage (50-75k) Mid to high teens: 6MT RWD/xDrive with higher mileage (70-100k) Low to mid teens: 6MT RWD/xDrive pre-LCI Sport package cars and premium color combos (rare doesn't equal desirable) seem to fall in the higher ranges of the bands. Mods don't really seem to make much difference in the sale price. There are of course deals to be found and exceptions, I recall an accident repaired but still clean titled 6MT Le Mans listed for $21k or something that sold in 24 hours. I think there are more buyers out there than sellers, but most buyers seem ready to wait to find a good deal. I personally paid on the higher end but found a car with exactly the options I wanted along with a full maintenance history. It takes the right buyer to come along though. Banks and credit unions won't finance the higher end of the spectrum, for example 22k on the BaT car. It has to be a cash or 50% cash buyer because on paper these cars aren't anything special to insurance companies, which limits your pool of buyers. Generally I think the lower mileage cars are holding value but some of the higher mile cars are slipping. There have been a few listings of nice cars that just aren't selling quickly and have 80-100k on them. I'm still holding out for a second wagon, a pre-LCI 6MT in red. I've expanded my search to include 6MT E83's though since I want something I can treat more as a beater and not feel guilty if it catches a ding or scratch.
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TrackRat951 New Member 0 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 2004 e46 M3 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Didn't see this one mentioned previously - has anyone checked it out? Seems too good to be true. LA car on Bay of E
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rjaudi Private First Class 126 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 07 E91, 09 911 C4S Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	Just how much does the manual effect value? I know its a big deal, but 5k? 10k? I just got a pretty good deal on a loaded Msport xdrive auto with 38k miles and will decide whether to keep it long term or sell it.
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E91WAG3N Wagon Addict 1249 Rep 1,217 Posts Drives: E39, E91, E91 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (2)	Cheap 6MT with high miles https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto...906513076.html
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.RJ Second Lieutenant 64 Rep 208 Posts Drives: Space Grey E91 Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (1)	Who knows. I've gotten about 10 emails/calls in 2 days from the autotrader ad, so I hope it moves out soon.
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