Extended BMW 335d PIDs for Torque

robnitro · 06-02-2017, 07:34 AM

I've recently started using the nox pre and post sensor pids and am confused why they show numbers like -97.2 pre, -98.8 post. Isn't that value supposed to be in ppm as ista Rheingold shows for scr?

Mark M · 06-03-2017, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by robnitro

I've recently started using the nox pre and post sensor pids and am confused why they show numbers like -97.2 pre, -98.8 post. Isn't that value supposed to be in ppm as ista Rheingold shows for scr?

Agreed. I had the same issue with these two pids some time ago. My guess is that there is a slight calculation error taking place.

My car has since gone illiterate so I no longer use these.

DWR · 06-05-2017, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by robnitro

I've recently started using the nox pre and post sensor pids and am confused why they show numbers like -97.2 pre, -98.8 post. Isn't that value supposed to be in ppm as ista Rheingold shows for scr?

You are probably right. Not sure what the correct reading should be, as I found no reference from BMW.

Len_Beach · 06-22-2017, 04:12 PM

I have a 2009 330d with the N57. Would this PID work with that engine?

If not, how easy is it to tweak?

JadeMonkeyStang · 07-29-2017, 08:56 PM

Just got Torque installed yesterday with the extended PIDs, thanks so much for posting this and for the work that's been done on it. Everything is working great for the most part except for the throttle % value is incorrect.

Also wanted to mention that you need Torque Pro to add the extended PIDs, the free version will not allow you to add them.

DWR · 07-30-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JadeMonkeyStang

Just got Torque installed yesterday with the extended PIDs, thanks so much for posting this and for the work that's been done on it. Everything is working great for the most part except for the throttle % value is incorrect.

Also wanted to mention that you need Torque Pro to add the extended PIDs, the free version will not allow you to add them.

Since there is more than one % throttle value. how do you know it is not correct?

robnitro · 07-31-2017, 12:42 AM

The throttle that is incorrect could be the one that says how much the valve in front of the egr is open/closed.

JadeMonkeyStang · 08-06-2017, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DWR

Since there is more than one % throttle value. how do you know it is not correct?

The gauge always shows the same value, 94.9%, no matter what the actual throttle position is.

DWR · 08-07-2017, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JadeMonkeyStang

The gauge always shows the same value, 94.9%, no matter what the actual throttle position is.

LOL, I just realized, you were not talking about my stuff - I did not provide a throttle PID.

robnitro · 08-08-2017, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JadeMonkeyStang

The gauge always shows the same value, 94.9%, no matter what the actual throttle position is.

It's the throttle Plate position, the one in front of the EGR which is unrelated to how much throttle you use on the pedal. This is used for dpf regen and shutdown (anti shudder)

JadeMonkeyStang · 08-12-2017, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DWR

LOL, I just realized, you were not talking about my stuff - I did not provide a throttle PID.

Nope, your stuff seems to be all good. Really appreciate it!

JadeMonkeyStang · 08-13-2017, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by robnitro

It's the throttle Plate position, the one in front of the EGR which is unrelated to how much throttle you use on the pedal. This is used for dpf regen and shutdown (anti shudder)

Thanks Rob! So I should see that position change during a regen or when the throttle valve closes? What's a normal # to expect?

robnitro · 08-13-2017, 04:11 PM

No clue, I haven't watched it during a regen. It depends on many factors, like engine temperature, outside temperature, dpf temperature, load, rpm and so on. Its the way that the dde can tweak the amount of fuel and oxygen to get what it wants to clean the dpf.

ninja_zx11 · 08-19-2017, 07:14 PM

I tried using the csv file that is posted in the first post but somehow it didn't work on my android phone.I think its a format issue.So i tested another csv file from VW and it worked.

Code:

"Name","ShortName","ModeAndPID","Equation","Min Value","Max Value","Units","Header"
"VW Charged Air Cooler Temperature","CACT","0177","B-40","-40","215","°C","Auto"
"VW Engine Coolant Temperature","Coolant","0167","B-40","-40","215","°C","Auto"
"VW Fuel Flow","Fuel Flow","015E","((A*256)+B)*0.05","0","15","l/hr","Auto"

But i noticed that BMW csv file looks different like this:

Code:

Name,ShortName,ModeAndPID,Equation,Min Value,Max Value,Units,Header
0-0 BMW 335d Ambient Air Temperature,AAT,146,((A-40)*1.8)+32,0,50,°F,Auto
0-0 BMW 335d Intake Air Temperature,IAT,10F,((A-40)*1.8)+32,0,100,°F,Auto
0-0 BMW 335d Charged Air Cooler Temperature,CACT,177,((B-40)*1.8)+32,0,100,°F,Auto

Does anybody have a csv file with format like the VW file i showed?Thanks

Yozh · 08-24-2017, 11:41 PM

The one for BMW worked on my Torque in the format that you reference for BMW

ninja_zx11 · 08-24-2017, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Yozh

The one for BMW worked on my Torque in the format that you reference for BMW

Hi Yozh!! It could be android version.I tried even the latest torque version but same results.

Yozh · 08-24-2017, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ninja_zx11

Hi Yozh!! It could be android version.I tried even the latest torque version but same results.

I'm an iphone guy and have an oil dedicated GalaxyS4 for some car apps. Android Version 5.0.1 right now and latest Torque update as well. Hope this will help.

ninja_zx11 · 08-25-2017, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Yozh

I'm an iphone guy and have an oil dedicated GalaxyS4 for some car apps. Android Version 5.0.1 right now and latest Torque update as well. Hope this will help.

Thanks.I am at android 7.0 on HTC M9.It could well be the android version.I am going to hand edit that file when i get time.

JTC1 · 09-13-2017, 08:57 AM

Finally got around to downloading Torque and loading these custom PIDs. Have to give DWR a big thanks! Even for this Android newb, I had no problems and everything worked great!

Kasanova · 09-26-2017, 01:54 PM

Hi DWR, I think I spoke to you on one of the Facebook 335d groups, just found this thread. Did you ever take a look at setting up a reading for the oil temperature?

Torqu3 · 09-26-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasanova

Hi DWR, I think I spoke to you on one of the Facebook 335d groups, just found this thread. Did you ever take a look at setting up a reading for the oil temperature?

DWR doesn't use Facebook, but I'm about 99% sure you talked to me. I never got around to poking around with my Scwaben tool to find oil reading. I'll try this afternoon.

Kasanova · 09-26-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Torqu3

DWR doesn't use Facebook, but I'm about 99% sure you talked to me. I never got around to poking around with my Scwaben tool to find oil reading. I'll try this afternoon.

Yup, it was definitely you. Only reason why I now know, is because you just mentioned the Scwaben tool again. I know another member was trying to get you the PID's but that post just disappeared to the bottom somewhere and I cant find it in my notifications. Will keep an eye on this thread from now on. And thank you again.

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robnitro Captain 160 Rep 803 Posts Drives: x5 35d e70 2011 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: NYC area iTrader: (0)	I've recently started using the nox pre and post sensor pids and am confused why they show numbers like -97.2 pre, -98.8 post. Isn't that value supposed to be in ppm as ista Rheingold shows for scr?
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06-22-2017, 04:12 PM	#180
Len_Beach Major 191 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: 435d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (1)	I have a 2009 330d with the N57. Would this PID work with that engine? If not, how easy is it to tweak?
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07-29-2017, 08:56 PM	#181
JadeMonkeyStang New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335d M-Sport (e90) Join Date: May 2017 Location: Fort Collins, CO iTrader: (0)	Just got Torque installed yesterday with the extended PIDs, thanks so much for posting this and for the work that's been done on it. Everything is working great for the most part except for the throttle % value is incorrect. Also wanted to mention that you need Torque Pro to add the extended PIDs, the free version will not allow you to add them.
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07-31-2017, 12:42 AM	#183
robnitro Captain 160 Rep 803 Posts Drives: x5 35d e70 2011 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: NYC area iTrader: (0)	The throttle that is incorrect could be the one that says how much the valve in front of the egr is open/closed.
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08-13-2017, 04:11 PM	#189
robnitro Captain 160 Rep 803 Posts Drives: x5 35d e70 2011 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: NYC area iTrader: (0)	No clue, I haven't watched it during a regen. It depends on many factors, like engine temperature, outside temperature, dpf temperature, load, rpm and so on. Its the way that the dde can tweak the amount of fuel and oxygen to get what it wants to clean the dpf.
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JTC1 Private First Class 36 Rep 122 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Atl iTrader: (0)	Finally got around to downloading Torque and loading these custom PIDs. Have to give DWR a big thanks! Even for this Android newb, I had no problems and everything worked great!
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Kasanova Enlisted Member 3 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 2009 335i xDrive Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Hudson, NJ iTrader: (0)	Hi DWR, I think I spoke to you on one of the Facebook 335d groups, just found this thread. Did you ever take a look at setting up a reading for the oil temperature?
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