[d8rknight]

so i finally was able to isolate a misfire i was having and I went out and did the following logs. FMIC is on the way so ignore the IAT... its 100+ degrees here in Texas so not much getting around it.. sadly VRSF has their 5in's on back order... may just go active autoworks... thoughts? running 93 OTS map . FBO minus FMIC
http://datazap.me/u/d8rknight/93-pump?log=0&data=4-21

[Sgop335]

Originally Posted by E30RMZ

http://www.datazap.me/u/e30rmz/log-1...og=0&data=4-23
Fixed it

May be your traction is on, dropping load requested.

Originally Posted by Msport335

here are a couple logs from my wedge 94 octane tune (now running e30 in the tank)

still getting timing corrections.... thought this would clean up timing.

any input?


http://datazap.me/u/msport335/mhd-94...og=0&data=3-22" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://datazap.me/u/...&data=3-22</a>

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Originally Posted by d8rknight

so i finally was able to isolate a misfire i was having and I went out and did the following logs. FMIC is on the way so ignore the IAT... its 100+ degrees here in Texas so not much getting around it.. sadly VRSF has their 5in's on back order... may just go active autoworks... thoughts? running 93 OTS map . FBO minus FMIC
http://datazap.me/u/d8rknight/93-pump?log=0&data=4-21

Lots of corrections but then again your iats are out of control so to be expected. Wgdc is good. Looks like newish turbos.

[d8rknight]

Originally Posted by Sgop335

May be your traction is on, dropping load requested.

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Lots of corrections but then again your iats are out of control so to be expected. Wgdc is good. Looks like newish turbos.

You'd be surprised... 110k on stock turbos. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks I can have fmic installed

[unrealii]

Originally Posted by unrealii

Any thoughts on this log. Mods in signature. Stage 1 + FMIC 91 Gas. Planning to install inlets next week. No plans for DPs

http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log-1468390148

Originally Posted by Sgop335

Lots of corrections buddy. I wouldnt be comfortable running that. Spool is good tho.

Originally Posted by unrealii

I run chevron gas. It probably has the lowest ethanol content of any gas around. I'll take a stock baseline then will try a different gas.

Some more logs, same tank of gas:
6.1 beta Stage 1 (non FMIC):
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...10-11-12-14-22
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...-9-10-11-12-22

Stock Map (MHD still installed):
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...7-8-9-10-11-22


With this many corrections on the stock map, I'm guessing something is definitely no good. I had the spark plugs replaced earlier this year with non-bmw plugs but bosch. The car hasn't been driven much since then. I had the fmic installed around the same time, but the car doesn't seem to pull as hard as it did last year on the previous map versions.

In January the car had codes:
2AAF - Fuel pump, plausibility
2DED - Power management, standby control (this is due to the dash cam)
2DC3 - Control Clamp 13 (no idea what caused it, but it never came back)
2D8D - Intelligent Battery sensor, signal transmission
2C31 - Lambda Probe in front of catalytic converter, trimming control (my mechanic said the senor was tired, but not failed. I reset adaptations and so far the code has not come back)

Thanks in advance!

[Sgop335]

Originally Posted by unrealii

Some more logs, same tank of gas:
6.1 beta Stage 1 (non FMIC):
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...10-11-12-14-22
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...-9-10-11-12-22

Stock Map (MHD still installed):
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...7-8-9-10-11-22


With this many corrections on the stock map, I'm guessing something is definitely no good. I had the spark plugs replaced earlier this year with non-bmw plugs but bosch. The car hasn't been driven much since then. I had the fmic installed around the same time, but the car doesn't seem to pull as hard as it did last year on the previous map versions.

In January the car had codes:
2AAF - Fuel pump, plausibility
2DED - Power management, standby control (this is due to the dash cam)
2DC3 - Control Clamp 13 (no idea what caused it, but it never came back)
2D8D - Intelligent Battery sensor, signal transmission
2C31 - Lambda Probe in front of catalytic converter, trimming control (my mechanic said the senor was tired, but not failed. I reset adaptations and so far the code has not come back)

Thanks in advance!

Many run bosch plugs so thats fine as long as they are the correct ones.

Stg 0 has lot of corrections more than stg1, also you dont meet boost target even if its lower than stg1. My guess you have a boost leak evident in Stg0. all clamps to and fro the ic need to be checked. Either that or boost solenoids?, not sure but thats a lot of corrections in stg0.

[Msport335]

updated log...

http://datazap.me/u/msport335/mhd-94...og=2&data=3-22

[Sgop335]

Originally Posted by Msport335

updated log...

http://datazap.me/u/msport335/mhd-94...og=2&data=3-22

Pretty good, high strung tune. Wgdc is up there.

[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by Msport335

updated log...

http://datazap.me/u/msport335/mhd-94...og=2&data=3-22

looks so smooth...

[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by unrealii

Some more logs, same tank of gas:
6.1 beta Stage 1 (non FMIC):
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...10-11-12-14-22
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...-9-10-11-12-22

Stock Map (MHD still installed):
http://www.datazap.me/u/unrealii/log...7-8-9-10-11-22


With this many corrections on the stock map, I'm guessing something is definitely no good. I had the spark plugs replaced earlier this year with non-bmw plugs but bosch. The car hasn't been driven much since then. I had the fmic installed around the same time, but the car doesn't seem to pull as hard as it did last year on the previous map versions.

In January the car had codes:
2AAF - Fuel pump, plausibility
2DED - Power management, standby control (this is due to the dash cam)
2DC3 - Control Clamp 13 (no idea what caused it, but it never came back)
2D8D - Intelligent Battery sensor, signal transmission
2C31 - Lambda Probe in front of catalytic converter, trimming control (my mechanic said the senor was tired, but not failed. I reset adaptations and so far the code has not come back)

Thanks in advance!

Just an FYI, I got your email... I'll respond to that as well as provide some feedback here.

Everyone needs to realize that a properly tuned car will still have corrections and throttle closure. If you want all the safety features of the DME active and you want to run on target and still have an aggressive tune that makes you smile, you're going to have corrections and minor throttle closures.

v7 maps correct the issues v6 maps have. v7 is a complete ground up remap. Nothing about the v6 maps went into the v7 maps. So for those with issues or concerns about v6 maps, please know we are working hard to finalize the v7 maps to get them to you as quickly as possible.

[extreme-eg]

Originally Posted by Msport335

updated log...

http://datazap.me/u/msport335/mhd-94...og=2&data=3-22

Only thing I notice is that Bank 1 runs on average 0.4 leaner than Bank 2. In terms of overall timing and boost the log looks good - but you might want to have the injectors looked at on Bank 1.

[Nonecure]

Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Everyone needs to realize that a properly tuned car will still have corrections and throttle closure.

Well you must have not properly tuned my car then since I don't have any corrections and throttle closures.

Sorry, I could not resist! Awesome tune!

[bartbes]

Sorry im sure this has been questioned before but I have been logging and logs look good from what I learned so far, exept from actual load always staying about 15 under load request.
Looking at other members logs and they look the same.
Can anyone explain why that is?

Thanks

[joshe92]

Where do you get MHD from? to buy...Cobb pulled their ATR (AccessTuner Race), so we no longer have the ability to get custom tunes or tune ourself.

We have to wait until Cobb releases an updated ATR, and then take a paid training ($100-150) in addition to purchasing the Cobb. Sucks!

Hence, why I am looking for different tuning options. Can someone help me find where to buy an MHD tune? Or point me to a thread on some more info on the tune?

Thanks so much!

[TGNY 335]

Originally Posted by joshe92

Where do you get MHD from? to buy...Cobb pulled their ATR (AccessTuner Race), so we no longer have the ability to get custom tunes or tune ourself.

We have to wait until Cobb releases an updated ATR, and then take a paid training ($100-150) in addition to purchasing the Cobb. Sucks!

Hence, why I am looking for different tuning options. Can someone help me find where to buy an MHD tune? Or point me to a thread on some more info on the tune?

Thanks so much!

MHD flasher is available from the google store. im assuming you didnt read anything at all. and just posted a question. try reading. Twisted Tuning does custom tunes for MHD and Cobb fwiw.

[TGNY 335]

Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Just an FYI, I got your email... I'll respond to that as well as provide some feedback here.

Everyone needs to realize that a properly tuned car will still have corrections and throttle closure. If you want all the safety features of the DME active and you want to run on target and still have an aggressive tune that makes you smile, you're going to have corrections and minor throttle closures.

v7 maps correct the issues v6 maps have. v7 is a complete ground up remap. Nothing about the v6 maps went into the v7 maps. So for those with issues or concerns about v6 maps, please know we are working hard to finalize the v7 maps to get them to you as quickly as possible.

not 100% true.if you have throttle closures, then the tune isn't 100% right. throttle closures aren't acceptable as it takes power away. how much power depends on how much it closes.

Timing corrections tho, having some slight ones every now and again can be considered normal. but having them all the time is not.

I don't see your logic in associating a happy tune that makes you smile with accepting throttle closure. that makes no sense...as throttle closures compromise power output. This does not include TCS/DSC events.

[TGNY 335]

Originally Posted by Theador

OK guys, I'm totally lost. I've gone to an MHD stage 1 map and I'm getting the same problems.

Basically when cruising at around 50-60mph, when I go WOT, the car immediately picks up and then seems to back off and cut power a bit and the car just doesn't feel like it's accelerating smoothly.

I've linked a log file here on the Stage 2 Map (forgot my MHD tablet today so couldn't log stage 1), I'd really appreciate someone taking a look at it as I can't really see anything wrong, MODS in my signature.

http://datazap.me/u/theador/back-sta...og=0&data=4-24

Timing corrections maybe? I've sort of got my head around STFT and LTFT and to me they don't look too whack.

Didn't happen so much on my old HARTGE map, but then that was a very progressive, mild tune (sadly doesn't work with the latest MHD release, throws a 2D5A Control Motor Torque Limitation).

you're overboosting quite a bit, so im willing to bet that on and off jerky acceleration is the DME modulating the throttle plate to attempt to keep the boost under/right at target, and not over. Log shows a lot of throttle closures.

And you have timing corrections across every cylinder in 3rd gear.

Tune Check, and Octane check is probably in order.

[bartbes]

http://www.datazap.me/u/bartbes/fbo-...lo=0-2-4-17-23

This is a v6 93oct stage 2 fmic log, fbo + stock location mmp inlets and outlets.
At about 100*F ambient it seems pretty good.
Tryed to do a pull trough all gears, but it kicked me from 3rd right in to 4th..
Anyway, thinking I might have a small boost leak.
Any insight is much appreciated!

Thanks

[TGNY 335]

Originally Posted by bartbes

http://www.datazap.me/u/bartbes/fbo-...lo=0-2-4-17-23

This is a v6 93oct stage 2 fmic log, fbo + stock location mmp inlets and outlets.
At about 100*F ambient it seems pretty good.
Tryed to do a pull trough all gears, but it kicked me from 3rd right in to 4th..
Anyway, thinking I might have a small boost leak.
Any insight is much appreciated!

Thanks

log looks decent. some throttle closures here and there, but not too bad. and wastegate duty cycle looks ok for the boost pressure, so don't think there is a leak. but never hurts to check.

[X.X.I.V]

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[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by Nonecure

Well you must have not properly tuned my car then since I don't have any corrections and throttle closures.

Sorry, I could not resist! Awesome tune!

hahahaha... I have a special tune for your next update... hahahahah

[WedgePerformance]

Originally Posted by TGNY 335

not 100% true.if you have throttle closures, then the tune isn't 100% right. throttle closures aren't acceptable as it takes power away. how much power depends on how much it closes.

Timing corrections tho, having some slight ones every now and again can be considered normal. but having them all the time is not.

I don't see your logic in associating a happy tune that makes you smile with accepting throttle closure. that makes no sense...as throttle closures compromise power output. This does not include TCS/DSC events.

Just to clarify, OTS maps are released to cars all over the world and have a specified load target. Like a stock tune, PIDs will increase WGDC to achieve target. In some instances the car can overshoot. In that event, the throttle will close slightly to control power until load is back on target.

Maintaining throttle safety also prevents people with incorrectly calibrated waste-gates or hybrid turbos from over boosting which could lead to engine damage.

I completely agree with you when it comes to a custom tune. So before you take a general statement and make assumptions, please ask for clarification. It will greatly reduce the confusion...

Edit: I'm talking about v7 OTS maps...

[TGNY 335]

Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Just to clarify, OTS maps are released to cars all over the world and have a specified load target. Like a stock tune, PIDs will increase WGDC to achieve target. In some instances the car can overshoot. In that event, the throttle will close slightly to control power until load is back on target.

Maintaining throttle safety also prevents people with incorrectly calibrated waste-gates or hybrid turbos from over boosting which could lead to engine damage.

I completely agree with you when it comes to a custom tune. So before you take a general statement and make assumptions, please ask for clarification. It will greatly reduce the confusion...

Edit: I'm talking about v7 OTS maps...

there is no confusion, you don't have to tell me how the DME works. i know how it works. and i never said anything about getting rid of throttle safeties of the factory PID system. But saying throttle closures are acceptable and a good for a happy tune is incorrect. because if there are too many and big, performance is decreased greatly. There was really no assumption made. it was your words.

your exact words were: "Everyone needs to realize that a properly tuned car will still have corrections and throttle closure"

a properly tuned car should not have throttle closures. whether Custom or OTS if they are proper, they should have minimal to none. I'd refrain from telling people throttle closures are OK. that's like saying losing power 50% of the time is OK, and it's not.

Yes, OTS tunes are made for a variety of vehicles so some wiggle room must be calibrated into the program, but just because its an OTS doesn't mean you can say throttle closures are fine, lol.