[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by 335e90

AA harness doesn't need tape- whoop-de-do!

I wouldn't want a mod on my 50k car held up with electrical Tape

[gashero]

^^than why would you want to save some money and buy that turbo tuner than.

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Please stop before the walls of irony collapse on you.

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Harnesses Shiv Harnesses. Stop with the threats please, its not professional.

What's wrong with building your own harnesses? Is that beneath you as a sales manager? You've mentioned his harnesses around 50 times as if he should be ashamed of them. I respect him for taking the time to make them until he can have them outsourced instead of just sitting on his ass.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by BoostedBMW

What's wrong with building your own harnesses? Is that beneath you as a sales manager? You've mentioned his harnesses around 50 times as if he should be ashamed of them. I respect him for taking the time to make them until he can have them outsourced instead of just sitting on his ass.

I was implying that he should attend to them instead of being on the forums 24/7 attacking other companies. There is nothign wrong with making harnesses. I would never say I or our company is too good to do anything like that. I am just concernced for the customers complaining about being on backorder and those Old Xede users who have not recieved their Haltech/procedes.

p.s. Any Xede users that are still waiting for updates or conversion you can send in your Xede if you wish and we will upload it with our software for no charge except for freight.

[leftcoastman]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

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We will continue to let our products speak for themselves and we will try our best not to LIE or MISLEAD anyone.

Uhhhh Omar... you lied just one week ago and then got angry when called out for lying:

Here's the thread http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58100

Here's the point where Omar directly re-iterated his earlier lie when he was called out: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=22

Quote from above post:


"You are analyzing a simple dyno reading way too much. I said that it reads LOWER THAN a dynojet. That is it. Its a fact just accept it."

Here's the evidence to show that he lied:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ed...ble/index.html

Quote from above article:

"What we found, from our two-wheel-drive tests, is that the Dynapack and Dynojet give surprisingly similar readings. If you compare a 7-second pull on the Dynapack with a third-gear pull on the Dynojet (which happens to take 9 seconds), the charts agree to within about 2 hp. The same is true when comparing a 15-second pull on the Dynapack with a fourth-gear pull on the Dynojet (fourth gear, in this case, takes about 17 seconds). The agreement between dynos was similar on both cars. I actually performed this test in an effort to determine some sort of reliable conversion from one measurement to the other, but it appears that no conversion is necessary."

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by Jeff@Eurobahn.us

When people call us as happened yesturday and they have a complicated Tuning issue on a FI BMW I tell them to contact Karl @ AA. Why? Aren't they a competitor? Yes in some ways they are, but I know if I send them to AA they will get the help they need and perhaps the next time they need something WE do carry they will give us a call. This is what we call good business practice!

Active Auto is simply one of the best companies on the market for tuning of FI BMW's. I would dare say they have tuned more FI BMW's under their own name and by selling through other companies than many of the other companies combined. And although you can always find a few customers who feel they didn't get the product or service they were expecting, just about all of the AA customers I have heard from say they were very pleased with their experiece. There are a bunch of Eurobahn customers who purchased our Supercharger kits and then got tuned through AA. Those customers have all reported outstanding results.

Just my 2 cents, its a shame that this forum can't be one of information for the consumer :mad:

Jeff
Eurobahn Performance
(866) Euro-Power

Thank you Jeff and we look forward to meeting you at Bimmerfest.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Uhhhh Omar... you lied just one week ago and then got angry when called out for lying:

Here's the thread http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58100

Here's the point where Omar directly re-iterated his earlier lie when he was called out: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=22

Quote from above post:


"You are analyzing a simple dyno reading way too much. I said that it reads LOWER THAN a dynojet. That is it. Its a fact just accept it."

Here's the evidence to show that he lied:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ed...ble/index.html

Quote from above article:

"What we found, from our two-wheel-drive tests, is that the Dynapack and Dynojet give surprisingly similar readings. If you compare a 7-second pull on the Dynapack with a third-gear pull on the Dynojet (which happens to take 9 seconds), the charts agree to within about 2 hp. The same is true when comparing a 15-second pull on the Dynapack with a fourth-gear pull on the Dynojet (fourth gear, in this case, takes about 17 seconds). The agreement between dynos was similar on both cars. I actually performed this test in an effort to determine some sort of reliable conversion from one measurement to the other, but it appears that no conversion is necessary."

A board member clarified that for you:

Originally Posted by 3XTR3M3

I understand your approach to this however, he didnt "lie" about his product. He said the dyno read low. He didnt say the dyno read the aa tuned version low... he just said the dyno read low. Which means it read a low stock # and a low xede tuned #. If the dyno is showing lower #s, I dont think its showing such low numbers which would effect the % gained gap.

so if its a 24% gain on this dyno which is supposedly reading low, its gonna be a 24% gain on a "normal" reading dynos #s as well. Weather or not the dyno read low dosnt make a difference in % gained. Hence, he did not lie about his product.

you're welcome unique consumer

[E90ice]

Wow! As I am reading this thread I am amazed.

This happens everytime somebody posts an opinion about the Procedee, AA Xede or TT.

This kind of thread is not informational/educational anymore...but plain stupid.

PM to Forum Administator sent.

[Jeff@Eurobahn.us]

+1

[leftcoastman]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

A board member clarified that for you:

Good try buddy. It may appear that I have something against you. It's not you personally, I simply do not respect nor appreciate vendors trying to lie to customers. Like I said before, with a $1MM contract or a $1080 product, a vendor is blacklisted in my mind when caught lying. My hope is that, other customers, in an effort to discourage outright lies from vendors, would do the same.

Your reading ability and memory appears to be selective. Please read the remainder of the thread you referenced.

The simple fact is:

1) You claimed that the Dynopack reads higher.

2) I called you on your lie.

3) You re-iterated your lie.


The interpretation of your lie is not the issue here. It is the fact that you clearly lied in the first place.

You got busted here, I wonder what else you've said that is untrue, yet undiscovered.

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by gashero

^^than why would you want to save some money and buy that turbo tuner than.

because i didnt want to wait over 3 weeks for a procede

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Jeff@Eurobahn.us

Just my 2 cents, its a shame that this forum can't be one of information for the consumer :mad:

Funny you mention that Jeff. Because IIRC, you alluded to the Turbo Tuner as having some form of active ignition timing control. Then it became widely accepted that the TT manipulates the air temp signal to induce timing retard. Until it was tested, that is, when it showed no such temp sensor signal manipulation. No comments from you were ever made again on that subject.

If you want the forum to be imformatative to the end user, I suggest learning a bit more about the product you sell and providing actual facts when asked. And if you don't want to provide such facts, say so. Don't let misinformation about your own product spread. Yes, even the positive misinformation.

shiv

[Jean@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Good try buddy. It may appear that I have something against you. It's not you personally, I simply do not respect nor appreciate vendors trying to lie to customers. Like I said before, with a $1MM contract or a $1080 product, a vendor is blacklisted in my mind when caught lying. My hope is that, other customers, in an effort to discourage outright lies from vendors, would do the same.

Your reading ability and memory appears to be selective. Please read the remainder of the thread you referenced.

The simple fact is:

1) You claimed that the Dynopack reads higher.

2) I called you on your lie.

3) You re-iterated your lie.


The interpretation of your lie is not the issue here. It is the fact that you clearly lied in the first place.

You got busted here, I wonder what else you've said that is untrue, yet undiscovered.

Lie or Misinterpretation. Sorry you take it as a lie but I think that is kind of different than what we are talking about. Thanks.

[leftcoastman]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke II

Lie or Misinterpretation. Sorry you take it as a lie but I think that is kind of different than what we are talking about. Thanks.

Jean, nothing riles me up more than someone who got busted lying and then will not admit their dishonesty.

Is it not true that AA (through Omar) stated "I said that it reads LOWER THAN a dynojet. That is it. Its a fact just accept it"

That, to me, is quite clear.

Additionally, that, proven by testing, is not true.

Maybe my English is spotty, but isn't that the definition of a lie?

[Jeff@Eurobahn.us]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Funny you mention that Jeff. Because IIRC, you alluded to the Turbo Tuner as having some form of active ignition timing control. Then it became widely accepted that the TT manipulates the air temp signal to induce timing retard. Until it was tested, that is, when it showed no such temp sensor signal manipulation. No comments from you were ever made again on that subject.

If you want the forum to be imformatative to the end user, I suggest learning a bit more about the product you sell and providing actual facts when asked. And if you don't want to provide such facts, say so. Don't let misinformation about your own product spread. Yes, even the positive misinformation.

shiv

Thank you for staying true to form. My mistake in understanding an aspect of the Turbo Tuner's operation aside that is.

Omar, looking forward to meeting you guys also!

Jeff
Eurobahn

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Harnesses Shiv Harnesses. Stop with the threats please, its not professional.

Ouch. Sorry, I have to disagree. We don't talk about high-tech submarine high-speed fibre-optics intercontinental data highways.

Harness on interceptors is nothing, as long it is wired correctly ( somebody checked the grounding issue already ? ). It's just good looking on a hided device. I personally can make a harness for the PROcede and AA/XEde what you never expect would be possible. Just a question of effort and passion.

Customers want fast cars, with reliable, up-to-date and maintained software. Easily upgradeable. If they bolt on intercoolers or turbo-back exhausts, they might want to see maximum power ( not my personal preference, but I'm sure most want ).

Concentrate on things customers like, what I know Shiv does. I really know, he did it already more than once. Also for me.

Cheers
Eugen

[stressdoc]

Wow, looks like I was too late!

[Jeff@Eurobahn.us]

+ 10

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Wow, looks like I was too late!

Had already 1.000.000 mg .

Cheers
Eugen

[lawdude]

Damn Jeff! I always thought of you as a class act. Had no idea you'd engage in a fight, especially one that that wasn't even yours.

Like I said earlier, whenever anyone feels the urge to fight, go get busy with your better half instead. Feels much better and keeps the boards uncluttered.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by coaster

As for me I am still waiting for the 2008 335's to come which I hope will have a new fuel pump design and the missing oil cooler will no longer be missing.

Not to get OT, but both those changes were made on the 2007.5 model year 335i's (March 2007 build dates).
They aren't "officially" called 2007.5 but I am calling it that since they made those changes and a couple others as well.
Sorry back OT.