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      09-25-2015, 12:28 PM   #177
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Thanks for the GREAT DIY.
I've been using INPA 5.02 for years and with an '10 E60 and '08 E70 in the fleet, I needed this.
I just completed the install on a 10 yr old orphaned XP laptop. I didn't have to reinstall the OS.
Will the V.55.2(?) SPDatens work or do I risk losing some functionality?
Thanks again.

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Thanks for the GREAT DIY.
I've been using INPA 5.02 for years and with an '10 E60 and '08 E70 in the fleet, I needed this.
I just completed the install on a 10 yr old orphaned XP laptop. I didn't have to reinstall the OS.
Will the V.55.2(?) SPDatens work or do I risk losing some functionality?
Thanks again.
Thank you. Although I haven't tested 55.2, it should work fine.
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Anybody have a current working link to 2.12

Anybody have a current working link to 2.12 that works or is still
on the server? Looking for a setup that will run on Win 10
without VM's or xp mode.
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Anybody have a current working link to 2.12 that works or is still
on the server? Looking for a setup that will run on Win 10
without VM's or xp mode.
Thanks for pointing out that the link in the other thread is dead. Any copy of BMW Standard Tools 2.12 will work.

Windows 10 hasn't been qualified by BMW, but others have reported that it works. Your mileage may vary...
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I am having trouble with my install

I am having trouble with my install
I found a version of 2.12 but when I try to bring up
inpa it can't find some inpa/cfg files.This seems to be causing
all the chassis selection to not be displayed. I saw another thread where
people are having problems with this .
I have an old version of the three program suite that is working
but would like to get the new one and rhiengold going.
So BMW tools is suppose to take care of all the manual setup
that you used to do . For example I am finding no obdsetup.exe in
ebiadas just some ftdi files ?
Should work with windows 10 if it works with 8
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I am having trouble with my install
I found a version of 2.12 but when I try to bring up
inpa it can't find some inpa/cfg files.This seems to be causing
all the chassis selection to not be displayed. I saw another thread where
people are having problems with this .
That's correct. As explained within the DIY, BMW Standard Tools 2.12 includes INPA, but it does not include any INPA scripts or configuration files. The DIY describes how to capture the latest English metric INPA scripts and configuration files from INPA 5.0.2 and manually integrate them along with the SP Daten.

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I have an old version of the three program suite that is working
but would like to get the new one and rhiengold going.
So BMW tools is suppose to take care of all the manual setup
that you used to do . For example I am finding no obdsetup.exe in
ebiadas just some ftdi files ?
Should work with windows 10 if it works with 8
Once BMW Standard Tools is properly installed and functioning, Rheingold ISTA is able to leverage the EDIABAS interface for vehicle diagnosis.

OBDSETUP.EXE is outdated and no longer required. It is not included with BMW Standard Tools 2.12.
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After reading closer I was getting less foggy but

After reading closer I was getting less foggy but
I still need to zero in . Apparently now there is a program that
helps you with this.

Thanks for the reply.

Also does the have the files necessary to run on older cars?
Specifialy a 06 325 running MSV70.

Inpa ebidas 5.02 only seems to download a description of the process rather than
the actual english software
Ok I got the whole 5.02 thing downloaded it took 2 hours I wasn't being patient and
was kind of afraid of the download site . So I will slog on.

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What does ADS stand for in INPA-ADS?

What does ADS stand for in INPA-ADS?
Does inpa 5.02 have to unzipped to the C: drive(root ) to work?
I think I missed step 1.
And does root disk mean disk 1 ?
Later in the day this.
I think I have it most of the way there now
thanks. Got some curves thrown as the 2.12 standard tools
I have had more up todate sub programs than the inpa5.02
edibas 7.3 and ncsexpert 4.01

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Mine is failing

What am I missing...? I followed your instructions religiously; WHen I run the INPA tool , this is what I get..

Can you please help? Any combination of shift and function key or just the function key gives me this message" Couldn't find INPA Configuration file C:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN..\cfgdatg\E90\ENG"

Please help !!


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Couldn´t find INPA configuration fileC:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN\..\cfgdat\E90.ENG
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OK
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Need Help!! Mine is not working

I followed the directions above , but when I open INPA and do any of the function keys I get this error below. Any ideas what I am missing?

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Couldn´t find INPA configuration fileC:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN\..\cfgdat\E46.ENG
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OK
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I haven't tested it on my car yet but the screen is

I haven't tested it on my car yet but the screen is coming up right.
Full selection list in english.
Also I found the ncsexpert 4.01 will run under win 10 but 3.8 won't.
I used a patch I found here to also convert that to English.

For those of you that are struggling if you installed standard tools first
I would check on what versions you got of inpa ebidas and ncsexpert.

Also if you are downloading inpa5.02 from the op's link first entry it takes a long time.
It took 2 hours I was kind of scatching my head as I had downloaded a full
version of Rhiengold in about 10 minutes from the mega link.
And I now have an pretty fast comcast connection .

To the last guys question go look in that directory and see if the file is there
it is in mine. Did you copy the entire EC-APPS folder from the uncompressed
part of Disk 1 from the 5.02 download mentioned in the first post to your c drive.

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What am I missing...? I followed your instructions religiously; WHen I run the INPA tool , this is what I get..

Can you please help? Any combination of shift and function key or just the function key gives me this message" Couldn't find INPA Configuration file C:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN..\cfgdatg\E90\ENG"

Please help !!


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Couldn´t find INPA configuration fileC:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN\..\cfgdat\E90.ENG
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OK
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After reading closer I was getting less foggy but
I still need to zero in . Apparently now there is a program that
helps you with this.

Thanks for the reply.

Also does the have the files necessary to run on older cars?
Specifialy a 06 325 running MSV70.

Inpa ebidas 5.02 only seems to download a description of the process rather than
the actual english software
Ok I got the whole 5.02 thing downloaded it took 2 hours I wasn't being patient and
was kind of afraid of the download site . So I will slog on.
Yes, the MSV70 DME and the N52 engine are supported by the INPA 5.0.2 scripts.

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What does ADS stand for in INPA-ADS?
Does inpa 5.02 have to unzipped to the C: drive(root ) to work?
I think I missed step 1.
And does root disk mean disk 1 ?

I think I have it most of the way there now
thanks. Got some curves thrown as the 2.12 standard tools
I have had more up todate sub programs than the inpa5.02
ADS is an older diagnostic interface used in early E3X chassis'...i.e. E34/E36/E38, they are referring to an old version of INPA that only supported the ADS interface.

Yes, it needs to be unzipped in the root directory of the C: drive...i.e. C:\

Root disk does not mean disk 1.

See this post for more information:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=34

Any INPA scripts newer than those found in INPA 5.0.2 will not be in English.

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What am I missing...? I followed your instructions religiously; WHen I run the INPA tool , this is what I get..

Can you please help? Any combination of shift and function key or just the function key gives me this message" Couldn't find INPA Configuration file C:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN..\cfgdatg\E90\ENG"

Please help !!


---------------------------
Error
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Couldn´t find INPA configuration fileC:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN\..\cfgdat\E90.ENG
---------------------------
OK
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I followed the directions above , but when I open INPA and do any of the function keys I get this error below. Any ideas what I am missing?

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Error
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Couldn´t find INPA configuration fileC:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN\..\cfgdat\E46.ENG
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------
You either didn't preserve the INPA 5.0.2 English metric scripts and configuration files as described in the DIY, or you skipped this step:

Copy the INPA scripts and configuration files from your saved CFGDAT and SGDAT folders.

Code:
C:\>copy X:\CFGDAT\*.ENG C:\EC-APPS\INPA\CFGDAT /v
14 file(s) copied.
C:\>copy X:\SGDAT\*.IPO C:\EC-APPS\INPA\SGDAT /v
468 file(s) copied.
C:\>copy X:\SGDAT\*.SRC C:\EC-APPS\INPA\SGDAT /v
11 file(s) copied.
C:\>copy X:\SGDAT\*.TXT C:\EC-APPS\INPA\SGDAT /v
2 file(s) copied.
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I haven't tested it on my car yet but the screen is coming up right.
Full selection list in english.
Also I found the ncsexpert 4.01 will run under win 10 but 3.8 won't.
I used a patch I found here to also convert that to English.

For those of you that are struggling if you installed standard tools first
I would check on what versions you got of inpa ebidas and ncsexpert.

Also if you are downloading inpa5.02 from the op's link first entry it takes a long time.
It took 2 hours I was kind of scatching my head as I had downloaded a full
version of Rhiengold in about 10 minutes from the mega link.
And I now have an pretty fast comcast connection .
Glad you got it working. If the DIY helped you, please click on the Appreciate button at the bottom of the first post.

That Chinese web site is super slow, but it works...
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Need Help!! Mine is not working

ctuna,

Can any one please share a usable CFGDATA adn SGDATA files with all the .ENG '.IPO files
so I can run these commands (kofiboadi20@yahoo.com)
C:\>copy X:\CFGDAT\*.ENG C:\EC-APPS\INPA\CFGDAT /v
14 file(s) copied.
C:\>copy X:\SGDAT\*.IPO C:\EC-APPS\INPA\SGDAT /v
468 file(s) copied.
C:\>copy X:\SGDAT\*.SRC C:\EC-APPS\INPA\SGDAT /v
11 file(s) copied.
C:\>copy X:\SGDAT\*.TXT C:\EC-APPS\INPA\SGDAT /v
2 file(s) copied.


Some how I may have not preserved CFGDATA adn SGDATA files. I keep getting


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Error
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Couldn´t find INPA configuration fileC:\EC-APPS\INPA\BIN\..\cfgdat\E90.ENG
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OK
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I think those files showed up when I ran

Instprog.exe

I never did that file copy you indicated.
I just installed BMW tools 2.12 first then downloaded
Inpa 5.02 and followed the instructions on the page titled
with
Installation INPA-EDIABAS FULL ENGLISH-EDITION.

I think those files got added when I did the Instprog.exe
update.

I had already started to set up Rhiengold from the following site
which gave me some more up to date versions of Inpa and ediabas.

Not out of the woods yet I am running into can't find object problems
when selecting just about anything.
Verified my cable and old xp laptop setup is working.
Never found the edibas.ini file mentioned in the setup.
Also battery and ignition circles in inpa are always black instead of going
from white to black once the car is turned on . Using com port 9
as long as they are matched in obd.ini I don't see why it should make
a difference.

Are all Daten files a super set of the last Rev.?
I am thinking I don't have the right files for MSV70 and hoping that updating
the datens will correct the api object not found problem.
I notice some of the selections for motors is more limited but mine is there
for e89's

http://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=10224

Tried downloading daten 50.2 from mega file 22 out of 23 seems to be corrupt.
If won't download.
Went back now it works and I extracted 50.2 but how to apply it?
Tempted to start over again as the more I struggle with it the clearer things become.

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confused as hell on the "blow your installation away and start fresh"...

i downloaded BMW tools, daten 50.2, and the main rar file..no matter what i do, car does not give me any values on anything,,, dots go black but cannot check any info from the car..


all i want is to code my 08 e93 injectors...

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So I compared my old an new version of ediabas.

So I compared my old an new version of ediabas.
And its obvious I am missing some files in at least ediabas.
Also ediabas is in the root directory in my installation.

I have Rhiengold up and working to I don't know if I want to
mess with any path changes. That was a pretty easy install
by the way.
I have the daten files for 50.2 but I am not sure how to direct them
to the proper folders. I have the download tool 2.5 but am not sure
how that works.
At no point in the installation did ediabas show up as a EC-Apps sub directory.
Next entry on 10/19/2015 follows.

So basically running now but I still have some file problems not all the menus
are English and some of the menu selectiona are coming up with incompatible
files. This may be because I assummed ediabas 7.3 would be a super set of 6.3
and I still don't have all the correct files in Inpa and NCS.
But a good deal of it is working. This is an month 6/2006 build car (325xi wagon)
Current factory integration level is e89x-14-03 I think they updated to this
when the did the Seat Senor retrofit.

Funny the factory level i file says 06-06-520
and the current i level is 14-03-500
Does this mean its a lower level now than in the factory?

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Does this have the script and capability to code the fuel Injectors?

Does this have the script and capability to code the fuel Injectors? Need help. Installed it but didn't see an option to program / code the fuel injectors in MDS80.

Am I missing something?
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FYI injector coding with inpa

FYI injector coding with inpa


Can also be done with DIS57 and I assume ista.

DSXmachina over on bimmerfest says you don't even have to code
them as the car will adapt and he has a shop.

I am wondering if the daten loader named BMW Coding Tool 2.5
loads up enough files to get these programs going.
So I am wondering if ncs, inpa and winkfp have duplicate bin cfg and daten files in
some cases or
is edibas always called as a source of those.

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Instprog.exe

I never did that file copy you indicated.
I just installed BMW tools 2.12 first then downloaded
Inpa 5.02 and followed the instructions on the page titled
with
Installation INPA-EDIABAS FULL ENGLISH-EDITION.

I think those files got added when I did the Instprog.exe
update.

I had already started to set up Rhiengold from the following site
which gave me some more up to date versions of Inpa and ediabas.

Not out of the woods yet I am running into can't find object problems
when selecting just about anything.
Verified my cable and old xp laptop setup is working.
Never found the edibas.ini file mentioned in the setup.
Also battery and ignition circles in inpa are always black instead of going
from white to black once the car is turned on . Using com port 9
as long as they are matched in obd.ini I don't see why it should make
a difference.

Are all Daten files a super set of the last Rev.?
I am thinking I don't have the right files for MSV70 and hoping that updating
the datens will correct the api object not found problem.
I notice some of the selections for motors is more limited but mine is there
for e89's

http://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=10224

Tried downloading daten 50.2 from mega file 22 out of 23 seems to be corrupt.
If won't download.
Went back now it works and I extracted 50.2 but how to apply it?
Tempted to start over again as the more I struggle with it the clearer things become.
I highly recommend starting over and actually following the DIY. Quite honestly, you're all over the map.

Installing BMW Standard Tools 2.12 and then installing INPA 5.0.2 over it is a really bad idea. You now have a hodge podge of old and new files that can never be sorted out. The only thing you need INPA 5.0.2 for is the CFGDAT and SGDAT folders from C:\EC-APPS\INPA which contain the English metric scripts and configuration files necessary for INPA to function properly.

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confused as hell on the "blow your installation away and start fresh"...

i downloaded BMW tools, daten 50.2, and the main rar file..no matter what i do, car does not give me any values on anything,,, dots go black but cannot check any info from the car..


all i want is to code my 08 e93 injectors...
In other words reinstall Windows. That is clearly stated a couple of sentences later. Once you have copied the CFGDAT and SGDAT folders from C:\EC-APPS\INPA to removable media, you have no use for INPA 5.0.2. I recommend proceeding with a fresh installation of Windows as INPA 5.0.2 made Windows registry changes, installed ancient dynamic-link libraries, etc.

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So I compared my old an new version of ediabas.
And its obvious I am missing some files in at least ediabas.
Also ediabas is in the root directory in my installation.

I have Rhiengold up and working to I don't know if I want to
mess with any path changes. That was a pretty easy install
by the way.
I have the daten files for 50.2 but I am not sure how to direct them
to the proper folders. I have the download tool 2.5 but am not sure
how that works.
At no point in the installation did ediabas show up as a EC-Apps sub directory.
Next entry on 10/19/2015 follows.

So basically running now but I still have some file problems not all the menus
are English and some of the menu selectiona are coming up with incompatible
files. This may be because I assummed ediabas 7.3 would be a super set of 6.3
and I still don't have all the correct files in Inpa and NCS.
But a good deal of it is working. This is an month 6/2006 build car (325xi wagon)
Current factory integration level is e89x-14-03 I think they updated to this
when the did the Seat Senor retrofit.

Funny the factory level i file says 06-06-520
and the current i level is 14-03-500
Does this mean its a lower level now than in the factory?
Your hodge podge of new and old files can never be trusted. Start over.

The DIY explains how to manually integrate the daten files. Each of the tools is dependent on EDIABAS to communicate with the vehicle. If the daten files are not integrated properly, you will have all sorts of problems.

Don't assume that any step in the DIY is optional or can be performed in a different sequence.

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Does this have the script and capability to code the fuel Injectors? Need help. Installed it but didn't see an option to program / code the fuel injectors in MDS80.

Am I missing something?
Yes, it does. However, fuel injector coding with INPA is not currently a tested use case. I plan to test injector coding in the next couple of weeks. I have index 12 injectors waiting to be installed.
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So that would mean I would need to different drives

So that would mean I would need to different drives
One with a Rhiengold install and one with an Inpa, Ediabas, NCexpert install.
There must be a better way than that. I had Dis 57 in a vmware and
inpa running on the same win 7 machine . There should be away to have
these programs installed on the same machine without virtual machines.
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Your hodge podge of new and old files can never be trusted. Start over.

The DIY explains how to manually integrate the daten files. Each of the tools is dependent on EDIABAS to communicate with the vehicle. If the daten files are not integrated properly, you will have all sorts of problems.

Don't assume that any step in the DIY is optional or can be performed in a different sequence.
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So that would mean I would need to different drives
One with a Rhiengold install and one with an Inpa, Ediabas, NCexpert install.
There must be a better way than that. I had Dis 57 in a vmware and
inpa running on the same win 7 machine . There should be away to have
these programs installed on the same machine without virtual machines.
No, you do not need different drives or virtual machines. Once BMW Standard Tools is installed and the daten is integrated properly, Rheingold can be installed and will use the EDIABAS installed by BMW Standard Tools to communicate with the vehicle.

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