[BTM]

Well, from a performance perspective, nothing is going to beat a max performance tire in the summer, nor a snow tire in the winter. As long as you aren't driving your winter set too far into warmer temperatures, they should also last you quite a while and get your money's worth in that sense

[kyleb350]

You can get away with a good set of All-seasons year round, but I prefer a nice set of summer tires that give the extra grip when cornering and accelerating. Having AS tires seems like the option when you just want to get from point A to point B. But yeah, switching to a two wheel + tire setup is costly.

[BTM]

Problem would be using the Breytons or 230s for snow tires as you mention you want to drop weight I'm assuming any new wheels would be for summer tires. 19" dia makes for expensive tires and reduced traction in the snow...

[UdubBadger]

yeah people told me today "dude you always need all seasons in chicago what are you stupid?" and I just looked at them and their dodge intrepid and shook my head saying "you don't know what its like to have 14 euro fog switches do you?"

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by BTM

drove my dad's beater

is that considered your Z4MC?

[gary88]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

yeah people told me today "dude you always need all seasons in chicago what are you stupid?" and I just looked at them and their dodge intrepid and shook my head saying "you don't know what its like to have 14 euro fog switches do you?"

Some people just don't know what it's like to enable the function of rearward facing fog lamps.

[BTM]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

is that considered your Z4MC?

Was gonna roll his Stingray but figured he'd get pissed. My dad is weird about cars...sometimes he's all about modding and helping me with working on them and shit and other times he's like "you know you could drive a new Honda for this much" etc etc

[mkPOTO]

Originally Posted by BTM

Was gonna roll his Stingray but figured he'd get pissed. My dad is weird about cars...sometimes he's all about modding and helping me with working on them and shit and other times he's like "you know you could drive a new Honda for this much" etc etc

my dad is the same way

[BTM]

Originally Posted by mkPOTO

my dad is the same way

Yea who knows man...in the end my dad is a car guy too so he seems to get it.

[mkPOTO]

blah just bought an x pipe and connecting pipes haha

[BTM]

Waiting for the fucking pole position to get here...I guess I could buy the mounting shit

[mkPOTO]

you already buy it?

[mithiral67]

Originally Posted by BTM

Well, from a performance perspective, nothing is going to beat a max performance tire in the summer, nor a snow tire in the winter. As long as you aren't driving your winter set too far into warmer temperatures, they should also last you quite a while and get your money's worth in that sense

I know that summers will be better, but I am curious how much better, we talking 5% (not worth it) or 20% (worth it).

I am no running winter tires, the tread life suck to much and the only winters that would fit my breytons are shitty low rated ones. I am pretty confident that the Conti A/S will be better in the snow than my old winters.

I would sell the 230s, throw the Conti A/S I have on order on the breytons and orders a whole new set of wheels/tires for summer. Another reason I am considering this is the Conti's are so back order, tire rack cant even estimate when they will be ready and they have been on back order for 2 month now.

[BTM]

No but they are calling me and holding it when they get it...I told them it's basically a situation where I will come sit in, hopefully it will be as I remember and will buy it.

[Kruz]

Originally Posted by mithiral67

I know that summers will be better, but I am curious how much better, we talking 5% (not worth it) or 20% (worth it).

I am no running winter tires, the tread life suck to much and the only winters that would fit my breytons are shitty low rated ones. I am pretty confident that the Conti A/S will be better in the snow than my old winters.

I would sell the 230s, throw the Conti A/S I have on order on the breytons and orders a whole new set of wheels/tires for summer. Another reason I am considering this is the Conti's are so back order, tire rack cant even estimate when they will be ready and they have been on back order for 2 month now.

Ive been through a handful of setups from the stock Bridgestones to Blizzak LM-25s.

My current setup is what I think is the best and most practicle and sounds like what you are headed towards. I put Pirellli Mud and Snow all-seasons on my stock wheels this winter and they were great even in 18". They were on a slight backorder as well. The 17" Blizzaks just take a beating on the 10 or so warm days we have each year before spring.

Im really liking the Hankooks Ventus V12s for my summer choice. And yes, tires make all of the difference and in the summer when it makes the most difference for me, I would not want anything but a super sticky tire.

[mithiral67]

Here some better performance data

All Seasons
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=88

Summer
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=140

Comparing Conti's two options

Summer vs All-Season
Dry - .07 more Average Cornering (g-Force) 7% better
Dry - 8 less feet on Stopping Distance (Feet) 50-0 mph 9% better
Dry - .23 Slalom Time (Seconds) 6% better
Dry - 1.25 Lap Time (Seconds) 4% better

[mkPOTO]

who did you buy them from?

[kyleb350]

Are sponsored links on FB at all related to page content?

[mkPOTO]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

Sponsored links on Mark's FB FTW

you know what the funny thing is, thoughs ads are about YOU kyle haha, so your the gay one asshole haha

anyways, you interested in helping VS use your car to make a half cage?

[kyleb350]

crap. I suck at blocking out last names

[mkPOTO]

the third and fourth pic are clearly me asshole

[kyleb350]

Half cage? Any links to pics of them on other cars? I can't say I'd need one but I am interested to know more.