[SW19]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

While I will probably not get it .... A Misano Blue M2 will be instantly recognizable as an M2 CS... so there is that..


did you get the slow model or are you now waiting for the M2 CS?

The Misano Blue might actually look good on the M2 CS.

So is the car that will finally get you to sell your 1M.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

The Misano Blue might actually look good on the M2 CS.

So is the car that will finally get you to sell your 1M.

To be perfectly honest I had given up on BMW just in the last 60 days.

I had decided the 1M is a keeper- M2 is nice but not compelling , same for M2 Comp... and I will create a dedicated track car ( spec E46 more than likely ) for track duty.

While I hadn't begun building I already even located a donor car for my track project.


With the announcement of a 6 MT CS, I am very much in , although price is a concern with all BMW CS products to date. The M3 CS and M4 CS were simply horrible values.


My biggest M2 CS concerns..

1 - oil cooler placement
2- electric power steering
3 - price

I'm not sure I'm willing to give up the manual rack, so Whether or not to give up the 1M is still a question .. I probably will try to keep it and order a CS and now this may put my track car project back on the shelf as I would definitely track an M2 CS and would feel better about doing that than the 1M which is a pretty much a collector item now.

EDIT- just messaged my CA to ensure my spot on the list.

[Weiman]

Any idea when the 2GC will be introduced? (Before or after the F40??)

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Weiman

Any idea when the 2GC will be introduced? (Before or after the F40??)

The OP says July for the F40 and I think prevailing rumor says late in the year for the F44. It would be nice to have a more exact date for the latter.

The 2GC could be one of the more interesting launches to watch in some time since it is still largely unknown (even here on Bimmerpost, you still see lots of posts from members who don't understand the product) and appears to be on almost no one's radar. It is going to come as a surprise to most consumers, I suspect, and I have no idea how many of these BMW expects to sell. The impression I get is that they've sort of been forced into this segment kicking and screaming by their German competitors, and it almost feels like they'd rather keep the car a secret, hoping consumers in the US either buy an X1, X2, or 3 Series instead.

[SCOTT26]

The official launch for the new 1er Sporthatch will be in Late May - 25/05.
Shaping up quite nicely.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The official launch for the new 1er Sporthatch will be in Late May - 25/05.
Shaping up quite nicely.

What markets? RWD ?

[DanG]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

What markets? RWD ?

I doubt that the US will see the new one series. For some reason BMWNA doesn’t like hatchbacks.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by DanG

I doubt that the US will see the new one series. For some reason BMWNA doesn’t like hatchbacks.

Lol mostly cuz their customers don't

Other than a couple outliers here and there

[KTN]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

What markets? RWD ?

New 1 series is going to be available with FWD and xDrive.

[brad850csi]

Originally Posted by KTN

New 1 series is going to be available with FWD and xDrive.

Which is why I'm signing up for an M140i 6MT right now.

[Weiman]

Originally Posted by brad850csi

Which is why I'm signing up for an M140i 6MT right now.

Good luck with that, the 6MT was discontinued last summer

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by DanG

I doubt that the US will see the new one series. For some reason BMWNA doesn’t like hatchbacks.

Wait, you mean they don't like hatchbacks unless they're installed on a gargantuan 3-series or 5-series "GRAN TURISMO"? Why those are perfectly fine to have one but BMW screams at thought of offering the 1-series 3-door and 5-door cars because "hatchback" is truly insane. It's a catch, a hook, to divert people's thoughts in another direction while the true reason remains hidden.

[sme_be]

is the new 1er a collaboration with the 2018 Ford Focus designers?

https://www.caradvice.com.au/711059/...ocus_03_xskbmn

[V-Eight]

But we are all aware of the fact that both the new M135i and M235i will have no more than 300/310hp. So, the real hot hatch battle, with more than 400hp, will be only an Audi/MB affair. It's a shame.

I would have made also a "real" BMW M1 starting from the F20. It would have been, in my opinion, better than the M2.

[sme_be]

Originally Posted by V-Eight

no more than 300/310hp

True, unless they offer a high performance PHEV with the 300hp B48 plus an extra electric motor. They already have a lower output version in the 225xe iPerformance Active Tourer, for instance.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

With the announcement of a 6 MT CS, I am very much in , although price is a concern with all BMW CS products to date. The M3 CS and M4 CS were simply horrible values.

M3 CS and M4 CS: expensive, not particularly Spartan, but a good piece of kit tooled together by BMW M. I'm also genuinely interested in the M2 CS.

Van Meel said that the CSL designation will replace GTS on the four-rung hierarchy of M cars, which starts with the base model then progresses to Competition Pack, CS, then CSL. Like the GTS, CSLs will be BMW M's most hardcore offerings.
«CSL [will be] the top-of-the-line track tool, made on the track for the track, just with a number plate,» Van Meel said. With a CSL, you can expect cup tires, coilover suspension, a roll cage, water injection, and a fire extinguisher. Van Meel says that the CS on the other hand is «also a track tool, but with four seats,» and more emphasis on comfort.
(source: here (Sep 2017))

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

Wait, you mean they don't like hatchbacks unless they're installed on a gargantuan 3-series or 5-series "GRAN TURISMO"? Why those are perfectly fine to have one but BMW screams at thought of offering the 1-series 3-door and 5-door cars because "hatchback" is truly insane. It's a catch, a hook, to divert people's thoughts in another direction while the true reason remains hidden.

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

US G05 X5 xDrive40d (aka 30d in all other countries) is somehow still alive for the release next year.

Any updates on this? Personally won't consider another X5 unless a diesel varient is available. My 12 has been amazing.

[irayi]

If I want to European delivery the next gen M2, when can I expect to be able to do that? Front page says end of production for current M2 is 6/2021.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by irayi

If I want to European delivery the next gen M2, when can I expect to be able to do that? Front page says end of production for current M2 is 6/2021.

I'm gonna go out in a limb and say 4 years from now

[irayi]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

I'm gonna go out in a limb and say 4 years from now

Jesus I was hoping more for 3 years

[V-Eight]

The EOP of the F87 will depend also on how sales will go on in the next months.

Right now, the M2 comp sells equal to the n55 M2, and it's not bad at all, considering that the actual 2er design base...has six years! So...it'll depend.

I guess that probably by the end of the year, in concomitation of the new M3 reveal, we'll see an upcoming 2er coupé test mule caught on the road.