[carjoy]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

You hit the nail on the head - once you have kids a two seater isn't gonna work if you want to do things as a family or at least take the kids or one of their friends with you. I never had an issue owning a 2 door, even with baby seats, but a two seater doesn't give you any flexibility. Could've would've bought a GT3 for sure, but too much of an ownership compromise. YMMV of course but in most cases, you end up driving the car alone which can also be therapy…..

Porsche has lost me for now with the dealer games for allocations and ADM, and while I also like the G80 i am going to wait for a real life look and drive of the M2. Will wait until LCI for either, or another CS would be fine too

Porsche allocation snobbery is fucking ridiculous. Apparently it no longer matters if you have the means to buy a car, now you have to be worthy to own one too. I don't like that vibe, it's elitist and unnecessary. Porsche is a manufacturer of freaking cars like everyone else, they need buyers, but when things dry out again in the next decline, they'll sing a different tune. Whether I'm a rapper, an influencer, an architect or just a blue collar worker who sacrificed and saved up a lifetime to catch a dream, no car manufacturer should take me for less than another because I haven't paid to play or my optioned car isn't rich enough to pad the pockets of a greedy salesman; thereby wooing him to sell you said car. That does not sit well with me coming from humble stock and beginnings. Porsche is a car manufacturer, not a damn private club, but dealers and sales people alike act like they are, like they are doing us a favor by taking our hard earned money. Sad thing is potential owners so desperate for allocations just play along. Yes, it's nice to own a car not many do, but my money should be good anywhere wether I've bought ten Porsche or one. One thing is getting in line for your car and when your turn comes, you are granted the allocation based on first come first served basis, another is to be told you can't buy a car…period in the case of the more expensive vehicles..even if it's just sitting on the dealer floor ready to be purchased. Apparently at Porsche, money isn't the only thing that matters!

What fucking arrogance.

Sorry for the rant guys…one of those Mondays

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by carjoy

Porsche allocation snobbery is fucking ridiculous. Apparently it no longer matters if you have the means to buy a car, now you have to be worthy to own one too. I don't like that vibe, it's elitist and unnecessary. Porsche is a manufacturer of freaking cars like everyone else, they need buyers, but when things dry out again in the next decline, they'll sing a different tune. Whether I'm a rapper, an influencer, an architect or just a blue collar worker who sacrificed and saved up a lifetime to catch a dream, no car manufacturer should take me for less than another because I haven't paid to play or my optioned car isn't rich enough to pad the pockets of a greedy salesman; thereby wooing him to sell you said car. That does not sit well with me coming from humble stock and beginnings. Porsche is a car manufacturer, not a damn private club, but dealers and sales people alike act like they are, like they are doing us a favor by taking our hard earned money. Sad thing is potential owners so desperate for allocations just play along. Yes, it's nice to own a car not many do, but my money should be good anywhere wether I've bought ten Porsche or one. One thing is getting in line for your car and when your turn comes, you are granted the allocation based on first come first served basis, another is to be told you can't buy a car…period in the case of the more expensive vehicles..even if it's just sitting on the dealer floor ready to be purchased. Apparently at Porsche, money isn't the only thing that matters!

What fucking arrogance.

Sorry for the rant guys…one of those Mondays

Now do Ferrari. :P

There's a reason Leno won't own Ferrari.

[carjoy]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Now do Ferrari. :P

There's a reason Leno won't own Ferrari.

Good for him. I guess Leno doesn't hang with the Grey Poupon crowd 😂

[Andi-M2]

Originally Posted by *mt*

Hi,

I took a look at the new M2 in the BMW Welt and created a short video with the GoPro.

I like the new M2. I think before someone make a final judgment based on videos or pictures, you should have seen it live.

https://youtu.be/wkp82iszbDM

Independent of the angle, this thing stays ugly as hell.

[atl_1M]

I told myself I'll pass on the car and wait for LCI but the view of the fenders at 1:35 has me second guessing.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

I told myself I'll pass on the car and wait for LCI but the view of the fenders at 1:35 has me second guessing.

Screenshot at 1:35

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by carjoy

Porsche allocation snobbery is fucking ridiculous. Apparently it no longer matters if you have the means to buy a car, now you have to be worthy to own one too. I don't like that vibe, it's elitist and unnecessary. Porsche is a manufacturer of freaking cars like everyone else, they need buyers, but when things dry out again in the next decline, they'll sing a different tune. Whether I'm a rapper, an influencer, an architect or just a blue collar worker who sacrificed and saved up a lifetime to catch a dream, no car manufacturer should take me for less than another because I haven't paid to play or my optioned car isn't rich enough to pad the pockets of a greedy salesman; thereby wooing him to sell you said car. That does not sit well with me coming from humble stock and beginnings. Porsche is a car manufacturer, not a damn private club, but dealers and sales people alike act like they are, like they are doing us a favor by taking our hard earned money. Sad thing is potential owners so desperate for allocations just play along. Yes, it's nice to own a car not many do, but my money should be good anywhere wether I've bought ten Porsche or one. One thing is getting in line for your car and when your turn comes, you are granted the allocation based on first come first served basis, another is to be told you can't buy a car…period in the case of the more expensive vehicles..even if it's just sitting on the dealer floor ready to be purchased. Apparently at Porsche, money isn't the only thing that matters!

What fucking arrogance.

Sorry for the rant guys…one of those Mondays

Apparently they think they are Ferrari now

[carjoy]

Originally Posted by dezzracer

Apparently they think they are Ferrari now

Apparently the company wants the right sort of buyer to the mark; the kind that buys the upper models and often. That private club mentality only breeds discontent for those who can only afford entry level vehicles. Makes me feel like I'm not worthy to be a Porsche owner because I don't have deeper pockets to afford a REAL Porsche.

To me, it's corporate malfeasance to allow dealers to operate in such a manner, that is unless the tree baring the fruit is also poisoned.

The only thing to do as a buyer is to take our money elsewhere. That's why I am a BMW owner and my next car will be an M2. I don't feel I have to be worthy to own a BMW, the companies is there to provide cars for the sport enthusiast, not to discriminate on the basis of how much I spend and how often. I should be able to buy any car I want within my budget without conditions.

Like I said earlier, attrition is a bitch and when the economy isn't so rosy for Porsche, it will alter the way it views potential first time buyers; not as exploitable and desperate but simply as CUSTOMERS.

[atl_1M]

TR from the Welt in motion

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CkoPq...d=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[Jims M3]

Originally Posted by ESB

Despite all the criticism I think the car has a lot going for it. Some criticism is definitely valid but overblown.

If I had made my mind up based on the spy leaked photos I wouldn't have bought it, but these look great. Lower that car with some spacers and some nice Carbon add on's it will look great.

[BrooklynG87]

Wow this looks incredible! Just amazing!! Thanks for sharing!