Carly Issue?

Soonerbilly · 01-04-2018, 10:56 PM

Tried to use a friend of mines Carly programmer to turn in the side view mirrors upon locking door. Gives me a message that the FRM ECU has a critical failure. How in the world did that happen and how do I fix it? Just got the car in November so not really up to speed on al the features/quirks. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Soonerbilly · 01-04-2018, 11:30 PM

So after searching on the net I found several posts about this on this forum....but its like reading a foreign language. Anyone repair these things cheap and quickly in Georgia? Think the JR guys can do this?

Yozh · 01-04-2018, 11:57 PM

If your FRM is fried then BMW has an extended warranty for them and can fix it for free.

Andy198712 · 01-05-2018, 05:09 PM

or its carly.....?

david in germany · 01-05-2018, 05:36 PM

Did you try the coding with the car running?

Soonerbilly · 01-06-2018, 12:21 PM

I don't have any of the failures that ive been reading, just cant code the things i'm wanting to code. Think BMW will still replace it? And no the car wasn't on/running. Lesson learned.

opjose · 01-06-2018, 12:28 PM

Carly will refuse to code an FRM of certain vintages that were prone to bricking due to a problem with their flash memory boot sectors.

It throws an error if your FRM is affected by this problem and refuses to proceed.

The issue is with the FRM itself.

Carly errs on the side of caution.

This problem is documented on their web site.

Hopefully you used an updated version of Carly that includes FRM protection features.

Soonerbilly · 01-06-2018, 07:03 PM

I guess that's what happened.....so is there another way to code the car other than Carly? I'd like to turn on the mirrors folding in.

Torqu3 · 01-06-2018, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

I guess that's what happened.....so is there another way to code the car other than Carly? I'd like to turn on the mirrors folding in.

NCSExpert. www.bimmergeeks.net has the software.

opjose · 01-07-2018, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soonerbilly

I guess that's what happened.....so is there another way to code the car other than Carly? I'd like to turn on the mirrors folding in.

Yes, as already pointed out, there is other software that will code the car in spite of the risk.

Remember though that there is a chance you'll brick your FRM by doing so.

This particular issue seems to increase in probability the more times your vehicle is coded/modified/flashed or the firmware updated.

You should first find out:

What is your current Integration Level?
How many times has your car's Integration been changed?
Has your car been previously coded by anyone, including dealer/Indy, etc?

There are reports of people bricking their affected FRM after ignoring the warnings.

There are also others who have coded their affected FRMs on many occasions without issue.

It is your decision.

EB89 · 02-10-2018, 07:59 AM

My FRM was bricked today with Carly.

2011 335i

Pretty annoying but seems to be an FRM problem, Carly and other flashing / reading things just trigger it

opjose · 02-10-2018, 05:00 PM

Were you using a recent update of Carly with the iOS adapter?

EB89 · 02-11-2018, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opjose

Were you using a recent update of Carly with the iOS adapter?

Yup, Gen2 wifi adaptor, and I updated the adaptor firmware the day before to code a friends M135i, I just wanted to see if there were any new options for my e92 and bam, FRM dead.

Latest iOS app version obviously.

Mark M · 02-12-2018, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EB89

Quote:

Originally Posted by opjose

Were you using a recent update of Carly with the iOS adapter?

Yup, Gen2 wifi adaptor, and I updated the adaptor firmware the day before to code a friends M135i, I just wanted to see if there were any new options for my e92 and bam, FRM dead.

Latest iOS app version obviously.

Yeah. I have Carly too. It's become worthless to me sadly. Back in the days when it was bmwhat it was a valuable tool. Now it's become a flakey unreliable money grab.

robnitro · 02-12-2018, 03:11 PM

From what I've been told, if the frm is fully updated with ista-p , etc... It fixes the bricking issue. Has anyone else heard this?

M5_1of400 · 02-12-2018, 03:25 PM

quite possible.. BMW first step in troubleshooting FRM issues is to reprogram the module but if BMW is offering an extended warranty to replace the entire module is because they know the damn thing came with some sort of hardware defect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robnitro

From what I've been told, if the frm is fully updated with ista-p , etc... It fixes the bricking issue. Has anyone else heard this?

01-04-2018, 10:56 PM	#1
Soonerbilly Banned 53 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	Carly Issue? Tried to use a friend of mines Carly programmer to turn in the side view mirrors upon locking door. Gives me a message that the FRM ECU has a critical failure. How in the world did that happen and how do I fix it? Just got the car in November so not really up to speed on al the features/quirks. Any help is greatly appreciated.
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

01-04-2018, 11:30 PM	#2
Soonerbilly Banned 53 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	So after searching on the net I found several posts about this on this forum....but its like reading a foreign language. Anyone repair these things cheap and quickly in Georgia? Think the JR guys can do this?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-04-2018, 11:57 PM	#3
Yozh Colonel 871 Rep 2,611 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Wet Coast iTrader: (4)	If your FRM is fried then BMW has an extended warranty for them and can fix it for free.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-05-2018, 05:09 PM	#4
Andy198712 Major 157 Rep 1,047 Posts Drives: 2010 E91 325d Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Cornwall iTrader: (0)	or its carly.....?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-05-2018, 05:36 PM	#5
david in germany Lieutenant Colonel 732 Rep 1,819 Posts Drives: 118i, 335i and 328i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Mannheim Germany iTrader: (2)	Did you try the coding with the car running? __________________ 2009 118i Monaco Blue "Maximillion" 2009 335i Saphire Black M Sport "Leopold" Cobb stage 2 aggressive tune, Mishimoto FMIC, Cobb charge pipe, Cobb catted down pipes, Forge diverter valves, BMS inlets and DCI, Cyba scoops and M Individual Audio retrofit and M3 gauge cluster retrofit. 2011 328i Titan Silver M Sport "Franzel" <--Wife's car
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2018, 12:21 PM	#6
Soonerbilly Banned 53 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	I don't have any of the failures that ive been reading, just cant code the things i'm wanting to code. Think BMW will still replace it? And no the car wasn't on/running. Lesson learned.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-06-2018, 12:28 PM	#7
opjose Major 244 Rep 1,373 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: May 2016 Location: Md iTrader: (0)	Carly will refuse to code an FRM of certain vintages that were prone to bricking due to a problem with their flash memory boot sectors. It throws an error if your FRM is affected by this problem and refuses to proceed. The issue is with the FRM itself. Carly errs on the side of caution. This problem is documented on their web site. Hopefully you used an updated version of Carly that includes FRM protection features.
	Appreciate 1 dreamspeed276.00 Quote

01-06-2018, 07:03 PM	#8
Soonerbilly Banned 53 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	I guess that's what happened.....so is there another way to code the car other than Carly? I'd like to turn on the mirrors folding in.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-10-2018, 07:59 AM	#11
EB89 Brigadier General 546 Rep 3,127 Posts Drives: 2011 335i e92 DCT Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Australia, NSW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i e92 [0.00]	My FRM was bricked today with Carly. 2011 335i Pretty annoying but seems to be an FRM problem, Carly and other flashing / reading things just trigger it
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-10-2018, 05:00 PM	#12
opjose Major 244 Rep 1,373 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: May 2016 Location: Md iTrader: (0)	Were you using a recent update of Carly with the iOS adapter?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

02-12-2018, 03:11 PM	#15
robnitro Captain 160 Rep 803 Posts Drives: x5 35d e70 2011 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: NYC area iTrader: (0)	From what I've been told, if the frm is fully updated with ista-p , etc... It fixes the bricking issue. Has anyone else heard this?
	Appreciate 0 Quote