Just saw the finished G87 M2 - My Thoughts & Analysis. + Colors List

trey100 · 10-08-2022, 08:55 PM

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My last rant. BMW took the ugliest rendering of the car and said VOILA!!! It could have been this🤷*♂️

Imo that's ugly. Just a hodgepodge of design elements of a bunch of different cars thrown together. I personally think if they took the g87 design but gave it dual headlights, a vertical grill, and the g80 style diffuser, it'd be perfect.

I agree that would have been ideal. And while I'm not crazy about that pic what I've seen so far is just so disappointing although this pic isn't "terrible"

But this isn't what it looks like. No vent behind front wheel. Line along the bottom of the door doesn't finish like this. Back rocket ship reflectors stick out more. Still fingers crossed that I love this in person.

Tag · 10-08-2022, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by trey100

But this isn't what it looks like. No vent behind front wheel. Line along the bottom of the door doesn't finish like this. Back rocket ship reflectors stick out more. Still fingers crossed that I love this in person.

TrentMeister · 10-08-2022, 10:37 PM

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Let me guess, the rear brakes are too small

They work, could they look better, yes but they work. Guys wanna talk how it drives and all but focus on the rear caliper size and design..

I didn't say anything about how the brakes look. Fact of the matter is, M brakes haven't always been good compared to other makes. With this car being heavier than expected and the brakes being smaller, it may not brake as well as it should.

Until its tested, we don't know. But, its a legitimate concern, as are the other performance metrics, because of the weight.

It's got the m3/4 brake kit…

If I stomp on my M4 it literally feels like my eyes are going to pop out of my skull.

Brakes are fine/ overkill

Dabozo · 10-08-2022, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by M2PDX

Exactly! Hallelujah! THIS is truth.

PERFORMANCE will be spectacular, but 90% of the discussion these past few weeks has been on looks.

Let's talk handling!

Let's talk adaptive M Suspension.

Let's talk steering feel.

Let's talk braking.

Let's talk acceleration.

Let's talk about cats, coilovers, intakes, and tuning!

In all fairness, no one here has driven it...cant comment on all of that...but we have all 'seen' it lol

PLF69 · 10-08-2022, 10:51 PM

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In all fairness, no one here has driven it...cant comment on all of that...but we have all 'seen' it lol

I have to admit it, teach us !! Love 💞

IcewaterPete · 10-08-2022, 10:58 PM

First, a huge thank you to the OP for such a straight forward report. Excellent info.

Next, I’d like to ask all those that have posted “looks don’t matter as much as performance” to do us a favor. Please post a pic of your girlfriend or wife and let us better understand your perspective. 😀

PLF69 · 10-08-2022, 10:58 PM

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I have to admit it, teach us !! Love 💞

Let's get out of 👂

pw4 · 10-09-2022, 12:22 AM

Just to add:
I took a look (with the public) at the Motorclassica M2 today. A few things to add:
- I'm 99% sure the flared guards are the same as other 2er, or put another way, all 2ers get the M2 guards. But the panel under the door on the M2 is different and wider. There are no guard extensions as seen on some European sports pack M240i s.
- blue paint is non-metallic, surprisingly.
- tyres on this example were 275/19 front, 285/20 rear Michelin PS4S.
- rear end looks better in person than in the photos I've seen before.
- grille opening is passive (as expected). Grille and lower grille are both gloss black, along with centre of brake duct intakes. Also rear diffuser area.
- headlights are the black shadow-line lights (as expected) ie not the ones with the gold trim
- carbon fibre roof
- carbon fibre trim on dash and centre console
- I think the rear spoiler is the same as on M240i

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Hey all
just spent about 40 minutes with the BMW reps at the Motorclassica show in Melbourne Australia going over the M2.

Game · 10-09-2022, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pw4

Just to add:
I took a look (with the public) at the Motorclassica M2 today. A few things to add:

Thanks for sharing.

Did the interior have ambient lighting?

pw4 · 10-09-2022, 12:28 AM

Couldn't tell if it had ambient lighting. It did have an illuminated line light along the armrest, red when I saw it.

Ctothej · 10-09-2022, 12:39 AM

Did they let you turn it on at all?

Game · 10-09-2022, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pw4

Couldn't tell if it had ambient lighting. It did have an illuminated line light along the armrest, red when I saw it.

Like this?

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...38;postcount=7

techniggo · 10-09-2022, 12:48 AM

Never ever has the G87 the same flare guards as the G42 😂

pw4 · 10-09-2022, 12:50 AM

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Like this?

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...03&postcount=7

Door, yes; dash, no. When I saw it, anyway - not definitive.

DSTR · 10-09-2022, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TrentMeister

It's got the m3/4 brake kit…

If I stomp on my M4 it literally feels like my eyes are going to pop out of my skull.

Brakes are fine/ overkill

Surprised how many lack the knowledge of this car and what it gains from the current M3/M4. It will have good capability for power and brakes. Gearbox as well. Looking forward to this iteration of the M2.

pw4 · 10-09-2022, 12:59 AM

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Never ever has the G87 the same flare guards as the G42 😂

Well, if they're more flared (and it's possible - I didn't have them side by side), it's not by very much extra. Certainly not as different as the previous M2 was from the F22.

Sedan_Clan · 10-09-2022, 01:42 AM

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Aaah… Sorry,

Plenty of designers, architects and fashion designers who were never "caught up" by the present. That is just nonsense.

Bangle left for different reasons and his design is stil under question mark for many as it was never generally embraced.

There are also a lot of car design that are timeless so, no, you are not right.

I am not really a Porsche fan as I do believe that there is too much reiteration of the same formula, however, is Porsche "caught by the time"? I don't think so. They manage to keep it good, but they have a timeless template.

Being mediocre at something it doesn't mean you are modern. You are just MEDIOCRE. Like BMW today.
BMW also inherited in timefew timeless elements, but decided to drop them in the garbage…

A good design always stands the test of time. Always…

You do realize that not every Porsche is liked, right? Some 993, 997 and 991 die hards don't care for the 992. The 996 is probably the most ridiculed model, and some find the 924 to be the most unattractive Porsche ever built.

TrentMeister · 10-09-2022, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pw4

Just to add:
I took a look (with the public) at the Motorclassica M2 today. A few things to add:

Interesting.

The flare "guards" as you put it are most definitely wider since the m3/4 suspension is fitted to the car meaning it'll be in the neighborhood of as wide as one of those.

But to you personally the m240 looks just as wide?

mbanck · 10-09-2022, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

My last rant. BMW took the ugliest rendering of the car and said VOILA!!! It could have been this🤷*♂️

How could've been that? The base 2er doesn't have those headlights, so the M2 won't either; that's how it works.

Besides, that looks like a mini 8er and BMW will make very sure not to cannibalize those sales, however minuscule they might be. I don't understand those "why can't the M2 look like this 150k+ USD car" (or even "why can't it get the front of the 800k USD 3.0 CSL") opinions. It'd be great for the M2 of course, but it will never happen.

pw4 · 10-09-2022, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TrentMeister

Interesting.

The flare "guards" as you put it are most definitely wider since the m3/4 suspension is fitted to the car meaning it'll be in the neighborhood of as wide as one of those.

But to you personally the m240 looks just as wide?

I know it uses the M3/4 suspension, but the M3 is only 50mm wider than the standard G42. Looking at the car and at pictures, I really can't see a difference in the shape and width of the flared guards. You'd think they would have to be 25mm wider per side (unless maybe a different wheel offset to fit the suspension under the guards, or something????). Maybe the M2 flares are wider, but if they are there's not much in it. Not like the previous generation M2 which was visibly much more flared than the F22.

WAY · 10-09-2022, 08:59 AM

A few of my friends saw the M2 this weekend. Unfortunately I couldn't make it but I will see it the next few days anyway as it tours the dealerships. I can confirm from friends who are familiar with M240i that the M2 is much wider with arches that are much more pronounced. Most also commented that the car is muscular and purposeful. I have a feeling that once we all get over the initial shock, this will look great.

atlas · 10-09-2022, 09:10 AM

At least it sounds like the fundamentals are there for a good driving and decent looking car. Reflectors can be deleted in a few minutes so not terribly bothered.

I do worry that the car has grown in size and power such that it may not be such a fun street car, but will reserve judgment till I drive it.

But safe to say I definitely would not be buying the first model. Will wait till it gets refined into a CS or something similiar.

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IcewaterPete Lieutenant Colonel 2153 Rep 1,531 Posts Drives: 2020 F33 M Sport, 2021 M2C 6MT Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	First, a huge thank you to the OP for such a straight forward report. Excellent info. Next, I’d like to ask all those that have posted “looks don’t matter as much as performance” to do us a favor. Please post a pic of your girlfriend or wife and let us better understand your perspective. 😀
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10-09-2022, 12:39 AM	#275
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	A few of my friends saw the M2 this weekend. Unfortunately I couldn't make it but I will see it the next few days anyway as it tours the dealerships. I can confirm from friends who are familiar with M240i that the M2 is much wider with arches that are much more pronounced. Most also commented that the car is muscular and purposeful. I have a feeling that once we all get over the initial shock, this will look great.
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