04-21-2022, 01:03 PM | #1 |
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M240i vs Porsche 718 Cayman vs Mercedes AMG CLA 45 S (Autocar)
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04-21-2022, 11:14 PM | #5 |
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You can’t really argue the results, the M240i does what it should as an M performance car. A fast, fun daily and the Cayman does what it should as a 2 seater mid engine sports car.
I’m still confused as what’s going on with the brakes. Our M240i bites harder than my F80 ever did for mild performance driving. I’ve still not put it through the ringer to really see the fade resistance and consistent bite under really hard and repeated braking from well into triple digit speeds. |
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04-22-2022, 10:13 AM | #6 |
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I think the question is...
Are these fresh brakes or abused and used press cars. I would be curious to see the data on braking distances and performance vs feel |
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04-22-2022, 10:18 AM | #7 |
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This is like the 3rd video I've seen with mention to soft brakes
I'm not sure and I don't have the experience to notice really. I've gone with a 230 with M sport brakes and I've tested it with the standard AG brakes and they seemed fine to me. I wonder if the upgraded discs in the m technology pack will make a difference |
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04-22-2022, 10:30 AM | #8 |
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I kinda like how the brakes feel (easy to modulate and not twitchy when trying to come to a smooth stop), and have not noticed any actual performance issue with them..
The car brakes quickly.. about a minute into this video is a brake test: (32M / 106FT 60-0) |
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04-22-2022, 12:33 PM | #10 |
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Odd comparison. The CLA 45 is a sedan that costs $10K more (competing with the M340i). The Porsche is a 2 seat RWD sports car that costs $15K more with a comparative package (competing with the Supra & new Z).
The M240i is the sweet-spot--decently practical and decently sporty. A AWD coupe with a backseat, some luxury, and modest price tag for the whole package. There's literally nothing to compare it to based on those criteria. RE the brakes. Is it just the standard brakes that everyone is complaining about? I haven't heard issues with the sport one included on the $2K wheel & cooling package yet. |
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04-22-2022, 02:21 PM | #11 |
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The Cayman is a perfectly fine "daily driver" unless one is fat or super tall. Only detractor is the price, which is even higher than the M2.
So if budget is important, M240 is fine. Otherwise it's Cayman and not even close. CLA, let's not even go there.
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04-22-2022, 07:32 PM | #12 |
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CLA is a 2er competitor. The fact it's overpriced doesn't make it a 3er's competition.
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This is a weird comparison, a G87 belongs in it if anything. The Cayman is also very different the other two cars. |
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04-22-2022, 10:52 PM | #14 |
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Here is my opinion of the brakes of this car that I wrote up in the Technical section for brakes:
There is nothing wrong with the brakes on this car. I drove 2022 M240ix at the BMW performance drivers’ school and they performed great. Did repeated panic brake stops from up to 60 mph and they worked as they are supposed to. The brake pedal is a little more boosted than some, but the pedal pressure was firm, but not too hard. I did not require any acclamation time to get used to them. The instructors were very excited to get this car in the fleet and they love the performance overall. I have taken my car up to 100 and made a quick deceleration to 40 and the balance was fine, no big front-end dive, pedal modulation was firm. Just did what they are supposed to do with no drama. I suspect some yahoo reviewer on YouTube decided to put down the brakes on this car with no basis and other reviewers piled on like lemmings. Such a pity, because they work fine. Now with the Carwow test, that dispels the notion that they are not great. They functioned fine and beat the other test cars (MB, Audi). |
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04-23-2022, 02:47 PM | #17 |
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I love the way the 718 looks but the 4 cylinder engine I found so disappointing when I test drove 4 years ago and put me off. Also, the tech felt pretty dated back then so imagine it feels gen or 2 behind the bm.
Merc does nothing for me, flimsy build quality and a highly strung 4 pot that sounds like a hoover (in the uk at least with filters) Small car, big engine, last of its kind, massive appeal for me |
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04-23-2022, 11:42 PM | #19 |
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Has it been confirmed that the cooling/performance package does not change the calipers?
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04-24-2022, 02:02 AM | #20 |
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And what a brilliant street engine it is. It just keeps making me love it more everytime I drive it, which ain’t often since my wife protect it like it’s her precious
It’s not as stout and racy as the the F80’s S55 but my god is it sophisticated and creamy. In this tune together with the ZF8 in sport mode in this smallish coupe, wow. The way it sounds and the way it effortlessly deliver big power reminds my of an exotic GT car. It’s astonishingly good and feel like something triple the price of the M240i. I’m blown away of the value and none of the cars in this test can touch it’s ankles in this regard. Thank you BMW for giving us long term fans this somewhat unexpected gem before the ICE era is over and done with. Last edited by solstice; 04-24-2022 at 04:29 AM.. |
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