[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Montaver

Have you owned an S55 engine car? I owned one of those as well. Anyway, clearly there is no interesting discussion to be had here or anything to learn. Enjoy your car

There clearly isn’t. I will, as usual!

[fcman]

I don’t even own this car yet and I already love it for how salty it makes the BMW purists

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by fcman

I don’t even own this car yet and I already love it for how salty it makes the BMW purists

Hope you get yours soon so you fully understand it!!!!!!!

[fcman]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Hope you get yours soon so you fully understand it!!!!!!!

In “Quality Check” status right now so the wait is almost over

[nachob]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Fair enough

Though I would point out that the last gen m2 was the same weight as the m4. Ultimately the M2 has always been a slightly smaller m4 with cost cuts using most of the same heavy bits (suspension, engine, transmission, etc) and omitting some weight saving expensive options (carbon roof, forged wheels, etc).

Ultimately I agree with you on wishing for a smaller lighter weight BMW, though that would almost certainly require a much more expensive dedicated platform. Safety, tech and chasing power all add weight and require a bunch of money to keep it off.

Yes, but that was heavy too. BMW had a hit with the 1M and brought back the smaller lighter M cars, then the next M2 got bigger and heavier and it just feels like we are right back to the same place. So for those that like the big, heavy cars, it's all good. Just there is no more small BMW offering now. : ( Anyway congrats to everyone out there that got one.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by nick3753

He buys a “Toyota”.

Yeah..I almost did. They didn't have a manual until recently or I would've gotten one. Good point if you don't need a back seat.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Montaver

Have you owned an S55 engine car? I owned one of those as well. Anyway, clearly there is no interesting discussion to be had here or anything to learn. Enjoy your car

Of ALL of the ///M’s I’ve owned since 2001 (…two E46’s, three E9X’s, two F8X’s), the ONLY one that ever gave me issues was one of my E46’s. I was one of the first to have a blown S54 that BMW replaced and then subsequently provided a 100,000 mile power train warranty. The turbocharged motors were flawless.

[JustinHEMI]

S58 is a masterpiece. Pinnacle.

[rilla]

The reviewer doesn’t even know what the button on the CSL steering wheel does

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by rilla

The reviewer doesn’t even know what the button on the CSL steering wheel does

I feel like if I was an influencer and wanted people to take my reviews seriously, I would do 30 seconds of research instead of stating on the video I didn't know what it did.

But I'm not an influencer so what do I know?

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by nachob

Yes, but that was heavy too. BMW had a hit with the 1M and brought back the smaller lighter M cars...

A hit? Didn't BMW sell less than 1000 1Ms in the US?

I remember 1-series cars overall being too "quirky looking" and it turned off a lot of people at the time. It didn't gather the mainstream appeal BMW wanted, which is why the 1 series was discontinued. Can't blame BMW for giving up on the smaller cars. After all, they bought Mini to sell into that market.

I liked the 135i personally (never got a chance to drive a 1M), but I don't think it sold well.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Squidget

A hit? Didn't BMW sell less than 1000 1Ms in the US?

I remember 1-series cars overall being too "quirky looking" and it turned off a lot of people at the time. It didn't gather the mainstream appeal BMW wanted, which is why the 1 series was discontinued. Can't blame BMW for giving up on the smaller cars. After all, they bought Mini to sell into that market.

I liked the 135i personally, but I don't think it sold well.

This, plus Chris Bangle was as hated then as the new chief designer is today. And look where we are today. Let’s see where we’ll be in 10-20 years.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by Squidget

A hit? Didn't BMW sell less than 1000 1Ms in the US?

I remember 1-series cars overall being too "quirky looking" and it turned off a lot of people at the time. It didn't gather the mainstream appeal BMW wanted, which is why the 1 series was discontinued. Can't blame BMW for giving up on the smaller cars. After all, they bought Mini to sell into that market.

I liked the 135i personally (never got a chance to drive a 1M), but I don't think it sold well.

People's hindsight is always rose colored.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by m2siast

this, plus chris bangle was as hated then as the new chief designer is today. And look where we are today. Let’s see where we’ll be in 10-20 years.

Bangle Butt, good times.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Squidget

A hit? Didn't BMW sell less than 1000 1Ms in the US?

I remember 1-series cars overall being too "quirky looking" and it turned off a lot of people at the time. It didn't gather the mainstream appeal BMW wanted, which is why the 1 series was discontinued. Can't blame BMW for giving up on the smaller cars. After all, they bought Mini to sell into that market.

I liked the 135i personally (never got a chance to drive a 1M), but I don't think it sold well.

Dont forget how all the BMW nerds panned it at launch for having the N54 rather than a "true M engine" and how it was a bargain bin M car because it just had M3 parts slapped on. Every new M car makes BMW fans angry, just like old school 911 fanboys

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

People's hindsight is always rose colored.

Ain’t this the truth?!?!

[BTDOC23]

So who does EPS right?

Porsche Cayman?
How does the Taycan stack up on the steering front?
Model 3 (blasphemy!?)

[nachob]

Originally Posted by Squidget

A hit? Didn't BMW sell less than 1000 1Ms in the US?

I remember 1-series cars overall being too "quirky looking" and it turned off a lot of people at the time. It didn't gather the mainstream appeal BMW wanted, which is why the 1 series was discontinued. Can't blame BMW for giving up on the smaller cars. After all, they bought Mini to sell into that market.

I liked the 135i personally (never got a chance to drive a 1M), but I don't think it sold well.

Who's the winner that appreciated this ignorant remark? Wow. The 1M didn't only sell less than a thousand because people didn't buy them as you imply. They only made it one year for the US and had to make more than planned because because the demand for allocations was so high and so few cars. It is you whose memory is messed and someone actually thinks this too? The 1M revived the small M car market for BMW which led to the M2s until now. So take a look at the mirror and get your information correct before you tell someone that actually was at Woodstock what word stock was about.

[Tallest]

Originally Posted by daddyrockstar23

So who does EPS right?

Porsche Cayman?
How does the Taycan stack up on the steering front?
Model 3 (blasphemy!?)

I dont know about Model 3 or Cayman, but - I have a 997.2, so thats the last of the 911s with hydraulic steering, and I have driven it on track. And I also drove Taycan. In the city, on daily driving, Taycan is scary similar to my 911. I didnt go on track with Taycan because frankly it is a massive heavy sedan and its not something I want, but Taycan steering is super nice I think. Very good car.

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by fcman

I don’t even own this car yet and I already love it for how salty it makes the BMW purists

Everyone is a purist in their own way.
For some of these "purists", the M3 E36 already was not good (too fat next to the E30), then M3 E46 was not a pure M (too civilized compared to the rough E36), the E92 neither (a 1600 kg M3? And where's the straight-six?), then it was the turn of the F80 (a turbocharged M, are you going crazy??), now with the G8x they are almost dying.
Let's see what's next, the best M will always be the previous one for them.
We'll get over it.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by VIERsr

Everyone is a purist in their own way.
For some of these "purists", the M3 E36 already was not good (too fat next to the E30), then M3 E46 was not a pure M (too civilized compared to the rough E36), the E92 neither (a 1600 kg M3? And where's the straight-six?), then it was the turn of the F80 (a turbocharged M, are you going crazy??), now with the G8x they are almost dying.
Let's see what's next, the best M will always be the previous one for them.
We'll get over it.

Yep, I've noticed the same. Got into cars around 04-05 and I remember those exact same E92 and F80 complaints lol.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by VIERsr

Everyone is a purist in their own way.
For some of these "purists", the M3 E36 already was not good (too fat next to the E30), then M3 E46 was not a pure M (too civilized compared to the rough E36), the E92 neither (a 1600 kg M3? And where's the straight-six?), then it was the turn of the F80 (a turbocharged M, are you going crazy??), now with the G8x they are almost dying.
Let's see what's next, the best M will always be the previous one for them.
We'll get over it.

Yep!

Originally Posted by fcman

Yep, I've noticed the same. Got into cars around 04-05 and I remember those exact same E92 and F80 complaints lol.

….and yep!