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      05-15-2020, 08:13 PM   #2025
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Question Some questions regarding Andream

Hey guys,

I own a BMW F48 and would like to retrofit a suitable MMI. While initially looking for the bimmertech one I've stumbled upon this insane thread (awesome work btw for all those information you guys gathered here!!!) and just found out there are way cheaper alternatives. However, I've a few questions which I hope someone might answer.

I'm from Germany and I'm new here. Just found that forum pretty (well, actually the f48.bimmerpost one since it's my own model ) interesting. Currently I am looking for the Andream MMI which not only is the cheapest one but also pretty good available through Aliexpress. My car is fitted with a HUD as well as a Harman & Kardon system and OEM ear camera.
  1. While on a call, is it using the OEM iDrive or MMI?
  2. Does the MMI properly fit in with the Harman & Kardon audio system? I've read about poor audio quality or stuff like having a low volume during calls whereas the music plays pretty loud.
  3. It's always discussed that you can retrofit a camera as well and use the MMI for it. But how about the OEM rear camera? When using R gear, does the system automatically switch from MMI to iDrive? Does it work properly? I've also read stuff like having black screens while driving backwards.
  4. For the bimmertech MMI it's said wireless Android Auto works with Pixel/Nexus and Samsung Galaxy phones (in my case the interesting one here is the Note 10+). Since hard- and software are (almost) the same, does this also apply for Andream?
  5. I've also read using radio through MMI isn't possible which means I've to go back to iDrive. Can I do that through the buttons on my radio or do I have to navigate out of MMI first?
  6. It's stated that the box will use AUX in for sound. Does this mean I've to pull a cable through my console and connect it into my cars AUX port?
  7. Will I be able to use my HUD properly? I've read that e. g. Maps through AA doesn't show up on the HUD (which is pretty much understandable) but is it possible to change songs in let's say Spotify through the wheel on the steering and also see those information on the HUD? Same goes for incoming calls. Is it still OEM like? Reference video where it's not working properly. However, I don't know how it looked like before so I can not say it was previously OEM like or not. (
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  8. Is it possible to use all of my steering wheel buttons? Voice command for (in my case) Google Assistant seems to work, but how about calls? Can I simply call someone from my recent call list like in iDrive? To be more precise, am I going to use MMI or iDrive for calls? And also, is it possible to use the wheel (plus wheel button) to navigate through the MMI? This question partly refers to the above one, but I just wanted to separate them a bit.
  9. Last but not least: Is it possible to still update the iDrive as usual? I'd assume that, since the MMI works more like a proxy, but just in case.

I'd like to apologize in advance if I'm just reasking some of these questions. Was really hard to find answers for everything.

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      05-15-2020, 08:48 PM   #2026
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cossie1 sent you pm with mega link before letting it out in the wild ......looks like these might be yet another set of updates.
Hey mate could you also send through the download links to me via PM? Cheers.
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      05-16-2020, 08:48 AM   #2027
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Is there anyway for Android Auto to auto-launch for wireless AA with the MMI. I've tried Auto-launch in AA settings but that doesn't do anything on the MMI (just brings up AA on my phone). I also have the latest software from Andream (20.4.2.14) installed (although havent updated to the latest MCU)

I'm running Android 10 on a Samsung S20
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      05-16-2020, 09:38 AM   #2028
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Hi Guys,

Looking to add carplay to my BMW 2015(dec) f31 widescreen (NBT EVO Id4).
I am a bit confused by the different versions of carlinkit, andream and bimmertech.

Who is the "original"? I would say carlinkit as they are also known for the sticks to connect carplay to Android auto cars and are known as the source (a lot of chinese people are copying their sticks).

Which box would you advise to purchase? I am now considering the carlinkit
Furthermore: Is it possible to just use (wired) carplay navigation and still use the original bt connection for calls?
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      05-16-2020, 09:43 AM   #2029
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cossie1

Andream hit me back pretty qucik with MCU

Asked for it today at 00:18GMT and had reply with download link and instructions at 00:19GMT!!
This MCU version is 20.5.9.10 (so 9th May).

The only difference I could see is that the scroll wheel now works the correct way (down for next, and up for back)



MCU sent to Firefly1337 so he can update post 3 again
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      05-16-2020, 09:49 AM   #2030
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Hey mate could you also send through the download links to me via PM? Cheers.
I have sent the MCU to Firefly1337 so he will update post 3 of this thread with the latest MCU (I don't have anywhere to upload it so can't send it you direct).

But if you can't wait, then do what I did and type the link in from the picture on the previous page.

The software update is already on post 3 as it wasn't new.
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      05-16-2020, 09:54 AM   #2031
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Hi Guys,

Looking to add carplay to my BMW 2015(dec) f31 widescreen (NBT EVO Id4).
I am a bit confused by the different versions of carlinkit, andream and bimmertech.

Who is the "original"? I would say carlinkit as they are also known for the sticks to connect carplay to Android auto cars and are known as the source (a lot of chinese people are copying their sticks).

Which box would you advise to purchase? I am now considering the carlinkit
Furthermore: Is it possible to just use (wired) carplay navigation and still use the original bt connection for calls?
I don't think there is an "original" unit / brand / supplier, it's an unbranded box that different sellers put there name to, and tweak the software to suit.

They all came to the market around the same time, but the Andream was cheaper and easier to get hold of (most of the sellers did not have any Carlinkit items in stock and those that did put the prices up much higher than Andream). They have since dropped the price, although it still seems to be higher than Andream's price.
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      05-16-2020, 10:36 AM   #2032
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I have sent the MCU to Firefly1337 so he will update post 3 of this thread with the latest MCU (I don't have anywhere to upload it so can't send it you direct).

But if you can't wait, then do what I did and type the link in from the picture on the previous page.

The software update is already on post 3 as it wasn't new.
Hi Cossie
I did try that earlier but it asks for a Decryption Key
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      05-16-2020, 10:45 AM   #2033
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Hi Cossie
I did try that earlier but it asks for a Decryption Key
It works for me, are you sure you typed it exactly as it is ?

https://mega.nz/file/b9MDkKYY#Dra8RT...ZTrNTqD7cNIHSU
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It works for me, are you sure you typed it exactly as it is ?

https://mega.nz/file/b9MDkKYY#Dra8RT...ZTrNTqD7cNIHSU
Thanks Cossie
I thought I had and even checked it a couple of times! But your link worked perfectly
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      05-16-2020, 10:49 AM   #2035
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No probs.
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[QUOTE=cossie1;26184634]This MCU version is 20.5.9.10 (so 9th May).

The only difference I could see is that the scroll wheel now works the correct way (down for next, and up for back)

Yes that is also the only difference I can see. But taking a positive from it, at least they reply to someone, even if not me
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      05-16-2020, 11:21 AM   #2037
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Yes that is also the only difference I can see. But taking a positive from it, at least they reply to someone, even if not me
For me it's a good update, as it now works the same way as it does on the i-drive
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      05-16-2020, 11:27 AM   #2038
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For me it's a good update, as it now works the same way as it does on the i-drive
Any lag with this mcu version?
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Any lag with this mcu version?
I didn't have any lag with the previous update and don't have any with this one either.

I can only assume people are referring to moving the scroll wheel or i-drive controller quickly, so multiple clicks and only getting some movement ?

But if you move it 1 click at a time, then it moves instantly.
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I didn't have any lag with the previous update and don't have any with this one either.

I can only assume people are referring to moving the scroll wheel or i-drive controller quickly, so multiple clicks and only getting some movement ?

But if you move it 1 click at a time, then it moves instantly.
With the last one you could move 3-4 clicks at a time instantly and then the cursor would freeze for almost a second before continuing.
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      05-16-2020, 11:37 AM   #2041
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With the last one you could move 3-4 clicks at a time instantly and then the cursor would freeze for almost a second before continuing.
I never noticed it then.

But I tend to only scroll 1 click at a time.
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I didn't have any lag with the previous update and don't have any with this one either.

I can only assume people are referring to moving the scroll wheel or i-drive controller quickly, so multiple clicks and only getting some movement ?

But if you move it 1 click at a time, then it moves instantly.
I have not experienced any lag either with the previous update or this one.
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For me it's a good update, as it now works the same way as it does on the i-drive
Yes agreed
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Added Andream MCU 20.5.9.10 to the 1st page.
Thanks cossie1
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If use Carplays phone menu, then calls by default routed wrong- via Carplay and i can't hear other party. Strongly needed, that calls are routed via original BT, if car is equipped with S6NS (Comfort Telephony W/ Enhanced Smartphone). If i enter or accept call via wheel buttons, then right way. Seems like chineses have'nt any BMW to test it. Tested with latest sw, Andream unit.

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Added Andream MCU 20.5.9.10 to the 1st page.
Thanks cossie1
No probs.
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