[AWBimmer]

I'm looking to understand how best to get the most out of my 335D.

Planning to at some stage get a custom remap and DPF delete as well sorting out the Egr delete.

I'm also interested in an aftermarket Intercooler and a Twin Turbo Diesel Downpipe... Wagner seem quite popular...

Intercooler
http://www.wagner-tuning.uk/bmw-e90-...-kit-113-p.asp

Downpipe
http://www.wagner-tuning.uk/bmw-twin...pipe-239-p.asp

Can someone tell me if the DPs are catless? In the link it does say 'less back pressure' but can't tell if they're catless .. Also, whther or not they are restrictive?

Does anyone have any experience with these or know what sort of gains they will have?

Thanks.

[MadToy]

They are catless, so definitely less restrictive.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

AWBimmer i have the WAGNER IC, it is amazing product, great buy for you go for it!! Contact Carsten (carsten.wagner@wagner-tuning.de)the owner tell him Axel from Puerto Rico sent you

[AWBimmer]

Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

AWBimmer i have the WAGNER IC, it is amazing product, great buy for you go for it!! Contact Carsten (carsten.wagner@wagner-tuning.de)the owner tell him Axel from Puerto Rico sent you

Hey man
thanks for the referral. Hopefully being in the UK won't make a difference ?

I've seen some of ur threads and you're obvy very tech savy with funding 335ds. ..

Could u let me in on how to keep my engine safe but to tune it to abkut 400bhp please ??? I don't have a monkeys abkut tuning so go easy but please do kindly ex plain how to achieve thag and what I should / shouldn't do.

Wagner IC don't add much bhp I hear... only like 20 ish ... is that true and does it really make mu ch difference ? Do I need new upgraded turbos ? I know someone on here at 442 bhp and 850 NM who has stock turbos but I want to ensure my gearbox Is still within safe limits if possible.... i don't push my car hard but I want the option to funk with people at lights if they get on my wrong side haha ..

Thank u

[Puerto Rican 335d]

As far as tunes there is Ecotune RENNTECH JR in Canada and they are bench flashes unlike jb make ur choice

[JP-76]

Originally Posted by AWBimmer

Hey man
thanks for the referral. Hopefully being in the UK won't make a difference ?

I've seen some of ur threads and you're obvy very tech savy with funding 335ds. ..

Could u let me in on how to keep my engine safe but to tune it to abkut 400bhp please ??? I don't have a monkeys abkut tuning so go easy but please do kindly ex plain how to achieve thag and what I should / shouldn't do.

Wagner IC don't add much bhp I hear... only like 20 ish ... is that true and does it really make mu ch difference ? Do I need new upgraded turbos ? I know someone on here at 442 bhp and 850 NM who has stock turbos but I want to ensure my gearbox Is still within safe limits if possible.... i don't push my car hard but I want the option to funk with people at lights if they get on my wrong side haha ..

Thank u

I really don't buy that. I know one guy in Finland that has wagner-tuning intercooler, hybrib turbos, catless 3" downpipe, staight pipe from downpipe, external wastegate, methanol injection, bigger HPFP and he's getting 422hp/872Nm from crank.

[Dan-danGT]

I have a Wagner on a 330d and it made a difference to mine. It pulls harder all throughout the rev range at first I was not convinced, then after a couple of days I noticed it was different! I was either going to intercooler or meth.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Down here in Puerto Rico its a must w 80 degrees or hotter thru out the year

[arayz]

Jp i have 400 crank without meth and 450 with med and still using stock

Im not even the only one who has 450 with stock turbos but u need meth to reach that hp

[GottaBeKD]

Originally Posted by Dan-danGT

I have a Wagner on a 330d and it made a difference to mine. It pulls harder all throughout the rev range at first I was not convinced, then after a couple of days I noticed it was different! I was either going to intercooler or meth.

My understanding is that meth is better bang for the $. I'm looking to run meth in the near future... Mainly to keep the CBU at bay but to also begin my modding journey.

I'm concerned how much power the transmission can handle and what the limits are.

[AWBimmer]

After putting up a th read here in the UK I've managed to find a nearly brand new wagner Fmic for a great price which I'm buying so next up I need some Twin Turbo DP.

[iaknown]

Meth is much more effective as any intercooler will only cool to ambient temps....

[JP-76]

Originally Posted by arayz

Jp i have 400 crank without meth and 450 with med and still using stock

Im not even the only one who has 450 with stock turbos but u need meth to reach that hp

It would be nice to have all these cars in the same dyno at the same day

[Si-M240i]

I Have the Wagner FMIC and it was a great addition. I had my remap redone after fitting the Wagner and a custom (straight through) exhaust and saw another 20BHP on the previous map..I'm running around 390BHP and 615 NM with stock turbos and the DPF, EGR and Cats are still fitted

[AWBimmer]

Originally Posted by Si-335d

I Have the Wagner FMIC and it was a great addition. I had my remap redone after fitting the Wagner and a custom (straight through) exhaust and saw another 20BHP on the previous map..I'm running around 390BHP and 615 NM with stock turbos and the DPF, EGR and Cats are still fitted

Wow Si, that's incredible!!!! I will be following a similar line to you to start with.
Are you thinking of Meth?

[AWBimmer]

Originally Posted by iaknown

Meth is much more effective as any intercooler will only cool to ambient temps....

I have zero knowledge of meth. Care to explain please or have a link in relation to 335D which I could read up on?

[AWBimmer]

Guys,
Quick Q... is getting a Diesel Downpipe (Catless) worth it for the D's? It clearly gets great reviews for the petrol variants but unsure whether it's worth getting for the D alongside the FMIC?

I've spoken to a local wagner rep in my town here who says the pipe removes DPF and it's catless, but the same product on this link mentions nothing about DPF removal...

Could somebody tell me what questions I should be asking this rep as I plan on visiting him today..

http://www.wagner-tuning.uk/bmw-twin...pipe-239-p.asp
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[Si-M240i]

Originally Posted by AWBimmer

Wow Si, that's incredible!!!! I will be following a similar line to you to start with.
Are you thinking of Meth?

Where in the UK are you ? I'm in Hampshire....

I'm not going the Meth route. Its fast enough now and don't want to push the gearbox anymore as it faultless in operation right now and with the better Quality fuel in the UK we don't get the same Carbon Build Up issues.

If you get the Wagner FMIC, I strongly recommend you get the Forge Charge pipe and get it fitted at the same time. The charge pipe made a noticeable difference to throttle response. I would also suggest a sprint booster if you like an aggressive feel for your car. It really changes the feel (not power) of the car to be far more exciting. LSD is a must too as is ditching the RFT's on the rear. An ITG drop in air filter is a nice addition too.

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by JP-76

It would be nice to have all these cars in the same dyno at the same day

no kidding. Between the already significant variance from dyno to dyno and the ridiculous wand waving to get to "crank" numbers from wheel numbers it would be easy to see 100 HP difference between two operators on the same car.

Originally Posted by AWBimmer

I have zero knowledge of meth. Care to explain please or have a link in relation to 335D which I could read up on?

nothing 335D specific about it. Methanol and water droplets when atomized into the air will cool the air stream. Due to the low evaporation point of methanol it can cause significant cooling. Think about it like if you put rubbing alcohol on your hand, its the same evaporative cooling effect. Water/methanol has the added bonus though of providing extra fuel for your diesel to burn without increasing EGTs.

[AWBimmer]

Originally Posted by Si-335d

Where in the UK are you ? I'm in Hampshire....

I'm not going the Meth route. Its fast enough now and don't want to push the gearbox anymore as it faultless in operation right now and with the better Quality fuel in the UK we don't get the same Carbon Build Up issues.

If you get the Wagner FMIC, I strongly recommend you get the Forge Charge pipe and get it fitted at the same time. The charge pipe made a noticeable difference to throttle response. I would also suggest a sprint booster if you like an aggressive feel for your car. It really changes the feel (not power) of the car to be far more exciting. LSD is a must too as is ditching the RFT's on the rear. An ITG drop in air filter is a nice addition too.

Si,
I'm in Aldershot, Hants aswell. Wagner is within walking distance to me lol.

I need to have a sit down with you and understand more about tuning. How much is the charge pipe?

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Aw my car is running smoothly w new DP our DPFs are doifferent from yours its just a matter of what you really desire, for us in USA we needed a better flow and our DPF/EGR has been causing CBU which BMWoA is not WILLING to get it done by them instead ask us to pay for CBU Cleaning WTF!!

[JulesM]

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