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But the Yota is pretty hot, has some solid track friendly hardware and stock for stock, it could very well be the fastest around a track. |
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Even if they have an ADM they will hold their value. Used Civic Type R's are still going for well over sticker and were even before the pandemic. You can conceivably pay $10K over sticker and not lose much after driving for a year.
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$10K on launch $5K on track $3-5K on core. Never know. he might re-adjust when it is really released. but Unfortunately I am getting at MSRP. Getting a launch edition. Last edited by Ginster6; 04-01-2022 at 08:51 PM.. |
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04-01-2022, 09:57 PM | #139 | |
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The GP was a two seater with a dumb 8s automatic. Still fwd, still from the least reliable brand. Still not going to touch a GR Corolla in any performance metric. |
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Again not saying the Corolla is a looker, but def better than the mini options. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. [IMG][/IMG] |
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Yeah, but the mini will swap ends really easy on a track, so there's that...
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Agree, the Mini's other than the 2-door are not my cup of tea, the four doors (one of which they technically count as a crossover) look very dorky and chunky to me, they just have that bulldog look I've never liked. On top of that, they aren't very appealing compared to the Corolla. The two four-doors are almost 3,700lbs each, the engine is the B48 which is a good engine but likely lacks in character to the GR, and the GR will have a more advanced all wheel drive system and power/torque split. I do like the Mini's interior though.
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Bringing up the Mini as competition to this is like saying a Bentley is a good Ferrari competitor. If Ferrari still made manuals.
I test drove the Cooper before buying my GTI and it was an absolute waste of time. Awful motor, chintzy interior and oddly poor use of space. Issigonis would be ashamed. |
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Why is it unfortunate that you're getting it at MSRP, when the dealer is claiming he knows what the ADM will be without knowing at least 3 important factors?
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I'd definitely recommend him any BMW then.
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Interesting not one comment about this being small and "tossable" like so many people seem to desire. The AWD system's 30:70 power split capability sounds fun. Is badge whore-ism impacting popularity here?
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What bugs me the most is reading the interview where they plan to limit production to 1 less than demand. On a Corolla? That's just so anti-Toyota and pisses me off. This isn't a Ferrari, and you're going to artificially cap production so that the perception is that they're in high demand? In the last AWD manual ICE hatch final sendoff? F*** off Toyota. Build as many as the factory can make and people will buy. I'm not going to be hunting down dealers for an allocation or enter into a bunch of bidding wars for the privilege to own a Corolla. If I change cars again, I'll just get an RS3 from my preferred dealership down the street and pay a little more than one of these marked up Corollas with none of the hassle. And I'll end up with a much better car.
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