[Poochie]

I'm going to tell my kids this car below was the BMW G87 M2..

It's about as accurate as the silhouette of the "G87" in this official promotional video.. 😗

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[T_N_C]

Who are they trying to target as an audience? That ad did nothing for me as a car and BMW enthusiast…

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by Tag

The G87 has a lot going for it. Doesn't have the big grille, gets the S58 from the start, unlike the F87 it'll have adaptive suspension, etc. The only downside I've seen so far is that some parts of the interior will be slightly smaller than the F87 and the Gxx series cars have gained a lot of weight. I wouldn't be surprised to see it weigh anywhere from 250~300 lbs more than the F87. That's the single factor that bothers me the most. Maybe they'll prove us wrong (yeah, right).

The G platform has grown overal…a G42 m240i is basically the same weight as a G80.

So i don't expect the M2 to be lighter than that…last gen M2 was even around 100kg heavier than the m240i

[///M TOWN]

This thread is hilarious

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Dr.Deep

The G platform has grown overal…a G42 m240i is basically the same weight as a G80.

So i don't expect the M2 to be lighter than that…last gen M2 was even around 100kg heavier than the m240i

OG M2 weighed in at 3450 lbs give or take

The G Series lineup are a bunch of porkers

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by OSee

Everyone in this thread: I just spent 30 minutes pausing and taking select screenshots, lightening up the photos, uploading them online, linking them here, creating a post, and trolling social media to see if anyone is also talking about this...well worth my time.

Also Everyone in this thread: BMW wasted their time! This marketing that I can't stop talking about and sharing and searching for isn't working!

Folks on this forum will engage in 100 post threads about keyfobs.
They could show a 5 second clip of a tire driving through a puddle and people will disect the ripple pattern to try and figure out the camber and whether it's a new tread pattern.

This is a crap ad. That's it.

[Spiffx]

Originally Posted by AndrewC1989

Lol, are you trying to say ppl are leaving BMW in droves and running to Porsche? Most BMW owners are not cross shopping with Porsches, only wealthy people can afford a real Porsche. The typical BMW owner can probably only afford a cayman or a macan, neither of which is both practical and sporty. BMWs are good all rounders that are reasonably priced. You're not getting your kids and golf clubs in the back seat of a cayman or 911 and you're not having fun canyon carving in a macan or cayenne. You can do all of that in a bmw M car and it will cost you much less.

There's no back seat on the Cayman.

And yes, some are crossing over from M to P. Not the majority, but it's happening.

[KSAF]

Originally Posted by Spiffx

And yes, some are crossing over from M to P. Not the majority, but it's happening.

I'm one of them. I think the M2 Competition I sold is the last new BMW I will ever buy!

[tigres]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Not only did they pick the wrong car
But ///M cars don't come with fog lights

My e46 M has them.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by tigres

My e46 M has them.

Timeless car

Not as much cooling needed

///M learned a thing or two over the years

[10"]

maybe the M2 is a rebadged Tesla?? 🤣

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by Spiffx

There's no back seat on the Cayman.

I'm aware, that was my point.

[Spiffx]

Originally Posted by AndrewC1989

I'm aware, that was my point. Not very practical.

But a lot more fun…

Why choose? Just get both.

You only live once. You can always produce more money. You can't produce more time.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by FrozenGT

BMW is losing more and more people to Porsche.

There is some truth to this.

Originally Posted by Spiffx

And yes, some are crossing over from M to P. Not the majority, but it's happening.

Yep, after 35 years as a diehard BMW owner/enthusiast I purchased my first 911 eight months ago and I absolutely love it!

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

I'm talking from a Enthusiast's point of view.
You are changing the topic.

Whatever that means. You said $100k for a grill you don't like. That's Porsche territory for a 718 at least anyway. Best of luck to your rarified enthusiast-ism!

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by AndrewC1989

Lol, are you trying to say ppl are leaving BMW in droves and running to Porsche? Most BMW owners are not cross shopping with Porsches, only wealthy people can afford a real Porsche. The typical BMW owner can probably only afford a cayman or a macan, neither of which is both practical and sporty. BMWs are good all rounders that are reasonably priced. You're not getting your kids and golf clubs in the back seat of a cayman or 911 and you're not having fun canyon carving in a macan or cayenne. You can do all of that in a bmw M car and it will cost you much less.

Right on 🙌

It's perplexing and tedious that folks here, ad nauseam, compares a mid-tier BMW to any model of Porsches.

If anyone, including myself, who has the means to comfortable opt for an equivalent spec Porsche, wouldn't even sneeze at a BMW and that's not taking anything away from BMW as an automotive brand in general, just a sobering fact of life.

It reminds me of the time I could of afforded a mansion on the hills but instead opted for a 12X9 roach motel in Alphabet City - 'cause you know, loyalty or whatever 🙄

Porsche and BMW is not on the same playing field, they are completely different caliber of vehicles, as Porsche is a vehicle you aspire to from a BMW, not one replace it with. So these folks making such outlandish comparisons need to stay in their lane..

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Right on 🙌

It's perplexing and tedious that folks here, ad nauseam, compares a mid-tier BMW to any model of Porsches.

If anyone, including myself, had the means to comfortable opt for an equivalent spec Porsche, they wouldn't even sneeze at a BMW and that's no taking anything from BMW as an automotive brand in general, just a sobering fact of life.

It reminds me of the time I could of afforded a mansion on the hills but instead opted for a 12X9 apartment in Alphabet City - 'cause you know, loyalty or whatever 🙄

Porsche and BMW is not on the same playing field, they are completely different caliber of vehicles, as Porsche is a vehicle you aspire to from a BMW, not one replace it with. So these folks making such outlandish comparisons need to stay in their lane..

Exactly! It's not apples to apples. Porsches are clearly on another level and people here are bitching about how BMWs aren't good enough for them anymore. Like go over to Porsche then, we're not stopping you. As soon as I have 100k in my checking account I'll follow suit. Until then I'll enjoy what I have.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by AndrewC1989

Exactly! It's not apples to apples. Porsches are clearly on another level and people here are bitching about how BMWs aren't good enough for them anymore. Like go over to Porsche then, we're not stopping you. As soon as I have 100k in my checking account I'll follow suit.

Same here 😉

What you get for BMW money is pretty good, especially a few years ago when an M2 was 52k MSRP to start. That was the enthusiast bargain of the century and unheard of in this day and age. Good times.. 🥹

A good looking RWD, manual, with a torque-vectoring e-LSD and pushing close to 400hp, with all the BMW amenities like four year free maintenance, brakes inclusive - sign me up!

Price wise, lining up both models side by side is like comparing apples to Porsches. These tone-deaf folks need to take emotions out of the equation and look at the big picture. Perception is the key 🔑

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Same here 😉

What you get for BMW money is pretty good, especially a few years ago when an M2 was 52k MSRP to start. That was the enthusiast bargain of the century and unheard of in this day and age. Good times.. 🥹

A good looking RWD, manual, with a torque-vectoring e-LSD and pushing close to 400hp, with all the BMW amenities like four year free maintenance, brakes inclusive - sign me up!

Price wise, lining up both models side by side is like comparing apples to Porsches. These tone-deaf folks need to take emotions out of the equation and look at the big picture. Perception is the key 🔑

Bargain M car is a distant memory now more than ever since BMW announced price increases across the board due to inflation. I thought the base G87 would cost around $65k, but after this news I think it’ll be closer to $70k.

[JustinHEMI]

Meh, maybe I'm the only one on the planet, but I have 0 interest in Porche. Incredible machines as they are, BMW M just does something for me.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Tag

Bargain M car is a distant memory now more than ever since BMW announced price increases across the board due to inflation. I thought the base G87 would cost around $65k, but after this news I think it'll be closer to $70k.

Damn, I'm unfortunately out the BMW game if a G87 M2 is going to start at over 65k..🥲

I guess it's not meant to be and instead a 400 Z or manual Supra is in the stars for me..

If this is indeed the case, BMW obviously forget (or no longer cares) why the M2 was so inherently popular and the original core demographic it was suppose to be targeted to.. #Sad


https://www.forbes.com/sites/markewi...laus-frohlich/

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[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Meh, maybe I'm the only one on the planet, but I have 0 interest in Porche. Incredible machines as they are, BMW M just does something for me.

I think Porsches are great but they're not for everyone. I personally know several people who have made "the leap" from M to P (M2/M2C to cayman gts, gt4, 997) and have come back to BMW after a year or two. When I asked some of them why, the responses I got were along the lines of: "Porsches are too serious, BMWs are more light hearted" or "I rarely drove it because nothing fit in it", or "that car was too stiff and I wanted something softer for a daily driver".