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      11-05-2023, 12:19 PM   #23
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For those keeping the stock wheels for winter like I am, see below. Posting this for perhaps the 3rd time in different threads:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18590174835...emis&media=SMS

Paid retail for the fronts through TireRack, but saved a ton regardless. Already have them installed and running just fine. I intend to get some new forged wheels for summer.
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I would just say that Soto Zero's wear out super fast. Had them for two winters on my F87C and they where done. about 4k miles per winter. I much rather the Alpines.
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      11-08-2023, 10:18 PM   #25
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New Yorker here. Planning to order this week. Staying with stock rims. So just ordering tires. Getting Vredestein Wintrac Pros. Front is stock size and rear I will put a 275 on. Gave up trying to find Alpin PA's in right sizing.
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      11-09-2023, 01:48 PM   #26
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I’ve been a big fan of the hankook winter I* cept evo 3’s. Had them previously on my g47 and they were amazing. Great performance in snow/ wet conditions. Only downside was the road noise, but that comes pretty much with every winter tire. With that being said, I chose to buy them again for the g87. Set of 4 tires in stock sizes for the m930 rims set me back about €950 which is about €400-500 cheaper than Michelin or pirelli alternatives.
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      11-09-2023, 02:08 PM   #27
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I live in canada, but I want to daily my m2 g87 whenever it comes. I know M2 wont come until next winter but if you guys have anything on mind for winter setup. Please share !

I think stock wheels looks good so I will only look for winter tires.
I live in Denver where we have a lot of season-bleed, meaning we’ll have days in January and February where it’s sunny and 50-60, but also get snow as early as October and as late as April, plus cool summer nights, especially in the mountains. So, for me, I could really only run summer tires for 3-4 months but obviously don’t want to run winters for 8 months.

My plan is to sell the stock summers and replace them with high performance all seasons. That’ll allow me to drive the car 340-350 days a year and then on the really sloppy days, I’ve got an old 4Runner.

It’s obviously a performance sacrifice but between not having to swap tires and our variable weather, it’s an easy trade-off for me to make.

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Just got these today to go with the Pzero Winter tires.
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      01-12-2024, 11:06 AM   #29
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Just got these today to go with the Pzero Winter tires.
Reviews please?
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      01-12-2024, 11:09 AM   #30
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Reviews please?
I will if I have to use them.
However, I hope I never have to!!! Sometimes my ski area has flashing lights requiring chains, and some mountain passes do too.

They should perform like these:

https://youtu.be/sPkM1CL4oGY?si=D8DNOTnmoU4ZTSpn
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      01-20-2024, 05:49 AM   #31
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Anyone have some experience with the Pirelli PZero Winter tires? How do they compare to the competitors?
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      01-20-2024, 07:49 AM   #32
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I'm running APEX Wheels SM-10 setup square at 19x9.5"which should match OEM fronts. Using WintracPro tires
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Anyone have some experience with the Pirelli PZero Winter tires? How do they compare to the competitors?
It’s impossible for us to say how they compare because we’d have to drive the tires and their competitors in the same wheels, in the same car, and in similar conditions.

But in my experience with different tires in different cars and in different conditions is:

I’m in love! The best all-around winter tires and the best experience I’ve ever had. I’m extremely pleased with the BMW Genuine winter set. I highly recommend it. We have a friend in a more wintery province here and he was satisfied too, let’s see if his experience changed with time.

The star spec Pirellis (summer and winter) are phenomenal.
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I'm running APEX Wheels SM-10 setup square at 19x9.5"which should match OEM fronts. Using WintracPro tires
Can you give reviews about tires?
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      01-20-2024, 09:37 AM   #35
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It’s impossible for us to say how they compare because we’d have to drive the tires and their competitors in the same wheels, in the same car, and in similar conditions.

But in my experience with different tires in different cars and in different conditions is:

I’m in love! The best all-around winter tires and the best experience I’ve ever had. I’m extremely pleased with the BMW Genuine winter set. I highly recommend it. We have a friend in a more wintery province here and he was satisfied too, let’s see if his experience changed with time.

The star spec Pirellis (summer and winter) are phenomenal.
I just had our first Midwest winter snow storm and I’m running the genuine BMW set and it performed much better than expected. There was maybe 1-3” of snow and slush on poorly plowed roads and I did not lose confidence in my handling once.
Just don’t drive it like an M2 in the snow and it performs just fine.
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      01-20-2024, 02:35 PM   #36
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The star spec Pirellis (summer and winter) are phenomenal.
They are good, but I've found the P0 Star Winters have limited size options, and sell out whenever I look for them.

I personally do not like the BMW Winter rims and would rather put winters on rims of my choice, and Pirelli's were hard to get off the rack.

But hey, I kept my e90 specifically for the winter, so I don't have to solve this problem today. When springtime comes around, I'll check the market again and see what's available.
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I just had our first Midwest winter snow storm and I’m running the genuine BMW set and it performed much better than expected. There was maybe 1-3” of snow and slush on poorly plowed roads and I did not lose confidence in my handling once.
Just don’t drive it like an M2 in the snow and it performs just fine.
In general if one drives reasonably in such conditions, you wont have an issue in any car.

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In general if one drives reasonably in such conditions, you wont have an issue in any car.
That’s true. I’m only responding because there’s plenty of people considering the M2 as a daily and are worried about snow. Aside from super heavy snow, with winter wheel setups, I’m no longer concerned.
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I'll be running the same size winters as my summer tire setup, using the stock wheels. Been doing that for the past 5 years, since I never drive in deep snow, and the 1 time a year I might make a trip into snowy country, I just tread more carefully. Initially that will be on the stock wheels, but come Spring 24 I'm looking to get something a bit more aggressive and concave (Edelweiss most likely).
Were you able to find winter tires with the same size of the OEM summer tires (275/35-19 & 285/30-20)? I have looked all over and was not able to find winter tires in these sizes which is why I was thinking going 18s or 19s all around.
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      02-15-2024, 08:21 AM   #40
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Were you able to find winter tires with the same size of the OEM summer tires (275/35-19 & 285/30-20)? I have looked all over and was not able to find winter tires in these sizes which is why I was thinking going 18s or 19s all around.
Found the following at the USA BMW web site:

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/product/1...-JET-BLACK-UNI

You could visit your local BMW dealer and see what the parts department can find available.

For a possibly lower cost yet still satisfactory winter wheel/tire set try Tire Rack and shop for a set of wheels/tires for your car. I did and found several different winter tires available and suitable wheels.
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Found the following at the USA BMW web site:

https://www.shopbmwusa.com/product/1...-JET-BLACK-UNI

You could visit your local BMW dealer and see what the parts department can find available.

For a possibly lower cost yet still satisfactory winter wheel/tire set try Tire Rack and shop for a set of wheels/tires for your car. I did and found several different winter tires available and suitable wheels.
Thanks for the reply.

Yeah, I saw that BMW wheel/tire set before. $6k is a bit steep. I was just hoping to get some winter tires and putting them on the OEM wheels. Just having trouble finding the OEM tire sizes for winter tires. Could 10" fit in the rear with the OEM wheels? I was not able to find the 285 10.5" for a winter set.

Would using 19s all around work for the G87?
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I'm running APEX Wheels SM-10 setup square at 19x9.5"which should match OEM fronts. Using WintracPro tires
Different wheels but same square setup. What psi are you running? Found a calculator online, entering their load rating, it came up with 36 fronts and 35 rears.
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Thanks for the reply.

Yeah, I saw that BMW wheel/tire set before. $6k is a bit steep. I was just hoping to get some winter tires and putting them on the OEM wheels. Just having trouble finding the OEM tire sizes for winter tires. Could 10" fit in the rear with the OEM wheels? I was not able to find the 285 10.5" for a winter set.

Would using 19s all around work for the G87?
The price I see using that link is $4545. Not $6000 but still pretty pricey.

If you don't want to go that route that's up to you. And I can't blame you.

But it does provide you with what winter wheel/tire sizes BMW sanctions and you can use this info to create your own winter wheel/tire setup from scratch and for less money.

I've never bothered with winter wheel/tires but if I had to I think I'd get a 2nd set of wheels and put winter tires on the wheels. I'd leave the original wheels mounted with whatever tires I would use in other seasons.

My info is with high performance tires it is best to once mounted leave them mounted.

I can't say you can use 19" wheels/tires all around. I would refer you to the BMW site to see what wheel/tire sets BMW sanctions for the M2. If you don't find a set in your budget you can then visit Tire Rack to see what wheel/tire sets it has gathered together which would fit your car and your budget.

It is possible that the winter wheel/tire setup does not use the same size tires as are on the car now. With other cars of other brands with staggered wheel setup the factory winter wheel/tire set used the same size wheels/tires at both ends of the car. Obviously the wheels cleared the brake calipers.
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