[wj100]

I like technology and bigger screens, so I'm not opposed to this design at face value. What I do have a problem with is as follows:

• No real delineation between models now on BMW interiors. They were always very similar but now, except for some very minor differences, they are all basically the same.
• The kickstand design is kind of a joke. Totally makes it look like the whole design was an afterthought...which I guess it was to some extent.

[TimmyBHGM5]

Originally Posted by spursmat

Also note the M badge on the air intake.

https://www.bmw.com.cn/content/dam/b...pc_598_329.jpg

All nice touches but perhaps the G87 isn’t going to make its way to the CN market so that’s why it’s marketed as an “M”.

This is included in a package called MPerformance package

[redcars]

Looks tacked on, but the real gripe is i8 and the lack of physical controls. The screen isn't too huge. For the cars with the tablet running down the console, what happens when you smack it with your stainless coffee mug?

[modeboy]

Is that screen face plastic or glass? Hopefully the latter. I can only imagine the scratches that will come if it's plastic.

[dr_frankfurter]

The M color ambient lighting on the dash trim is a nice touch. Doesn't show it on the US configurator though.

[NLJ]

Eventually every car manufacturer will go with screen slapped on a dashboard cause it means they don't have to design a slot for the instrument cluster.
This saves them so much money on dash design and button placements and other physical control materials.
I hope they do eventually try and make it look more domed instead of flat and stuck on!

[*bimmervibe]

The only issue for me is the kick stand. There is just no way to see that as a nice design feature objectively. I'm hoping this is not going to be what we will see on the m2 but It will probably be. It's just as anyone else is thinking, not good design but an afterthought.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by NLJ

Eventually every car manufacturer will go with screen slapped on a dashboard cause it means they don't have to design a slot for the instrument cluster.
This saves them so much money on dash design and button placements and other physical control materials.
I hope they do eventually try and make it look more domed instead of flat and stuck on!

Yep. Cheap cheap cheap. Automotive design is in a slow steady decline.

[MPR]

Meanwhile, prices increase.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by NLJ

Eventually every car manufacturer will go with screen slapped on a dashboard cause it means they don't have to design a slot for the instrument cluster.
This saves them so much money on dash design and button placements and other physical control materials.
I hope they do eventually try and make it look more domed instead of flat and stuck on!

It takes serious confirmation bias to not realize that this single long screen is just cost cutting nonsense. Looks like trash. It's a car, not a sofa.

[Igor_M5]

I kinda get the idea behind the "kickstand", it's part of this organic language they're trying to slowly incorporate, eventually the lower part of thr dash will be more exposed, with more "kickstands", then the seats will appear to be floating on some kickstands with reverse kickstands for headrests, then there will be nothing left of the interior, not even display screens, and well have some book shelves for navigating maps, and reading entertainment.

Oh wait

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by azuki

2022 2 series owners: ID8 looks like shit
2023 2 series owners: ID8 looks nice

Im 2020 M8 owner and beleive anything after ID6 is shit! I miss analog speedometer on F13 M6 / F82 M4/ F80 M3 and ofcourse F10 M5😞

[JustChris]

That's a great looking 2er

[yuvalt]

As owner of 22, I personally hate the kick stand, love the addition of the light option on the passenger side. I would have definitely purchased this car if I didn't have mine.

[FastTyger]

I miss physical, analog guages. My first BMW was a ‘96 318ti. In now way does it measure up to a modern BMW except for the gauges. I’d take those analog guages over any digital gauge package. But the world has moved on. I wish the curved display was better integrated into the dash. I’d be disappointed if the TV in my loft was as poorly mounted as the screen in the 2 series. Sigh.

[10"]

like a child glued a few iPads into a dashboard. unbelievable how BMW allowed this into production! Lol

[BobHen]

Originally Posted by tygertygertygers

I miss physical, analog guages. My first BMW was a ‘96 318ti. In now way does it measure up to a modern BMW except for the gauges. I’d take those analog guages over any digital gauge package. But the world has moved on. I wish the curved display was better integrated into the dash. I’d be disappointed if the TV in my loft was as poorly mounted as the screen in the 2 series. Sigh.

I agree. When I ordered my 2022, M240i I did exactly that – I ordered dial gages instead of the digital dash with the bent bar graph speedometer and tachometer. And yes, the world has moved on, but that doesn’t mean it has moved on to a better place. The original King Kong is still the best and that was done with analog, stop-motion puppets not CGI.

If you are going to give me a digital dash, I want the choice to be able to configure it so the tachometer is a large dial right in the center of the dash.

No one likes the way the screen is mounted instead of being “incorporated”.

Missing buttons is IMO another design/cost-cutting misstep by BMW.

Sorry BMW and other “sport” sedan/coupe/sports car makers, when I get behind the wheel of one of your “sporty” cars, I don’t want to feel like I’m driving an I-pad. Oh well, maybe I’m just getting old.

Bob

[msej449]

Whatever happened to all that curved display screen technology that was being demonstrated everywhere 3-4 years ago? At the time, it was hailed as allowing designers to incorporate the display directly into/onto the facia itself - so it'd be integral. All this stuff looks like it's just miscellaneous, off-the-shelf curved displays glued randomly onto the fascia, and it's gong to look immediately dated if the integral display tech ever arrives.

One concept I saw was using it to wrap around the A-pillar connected to a camera on the outside, making it look to the driver like the pillar wasn't there, which I thought was clever.

Of course, the logical extension is not to have any windows at all, and just replicate the outside view on the walls of the car itself, using curved displays. Which is an idea being touted for the next generation of passenger 'planes as well. thereby eliminating the issues around windows in a pressurised aircraft.

[moominter]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Yep. Cheap cheap cheap. Automotive design is in a slow steady decline.

How are curved higher resolution screens three times the size cheaper ?!

[jpcoop]

Originally Posted by moominter

How are curved higher resolution screens three times the size cheaper ?!

Because they can mass produce the same unit and put it in every car they make, realizing massive economies of scale. As opposed to making bespoke trim and modules for each model.

Also the resolution and size are barely different, the left screen is almost the same and the right one is only something like 2” larger than the id7 live cockpit pro. Much of that new space is taken up by the climate controls, which used to have their own screen and buttons.

They just took the two screens they already had and smooshed them together. It’s not really that different.

[wj100]

BTW, is there anyone on the planet that prefers the new nub versus the traditional gearshift lever? I'm guessing the answer is no and for the life of me I don't understand this trend. As someone who drives primarily in manual mode, I like to have the option of shifting with the paddles or the gearshift lever. Obviously Porsche has gone this way too and I just don't get it.

[moominter]

Originally Posted by jpcoop

Because they can mass produce the same unit and put it in every car they make, realizing massive economies of scale. As opposed to making bespoke trim and modules for each model.

Also the resolution and size are barely different, the left screen is almost the same and the right one is only something like 2” larger than the id7 live cockpit pro. Much of that new space is taken up by the climate controls, which used to have their own screen and buttons.

They just took the two screens they already had and smooshed them together. It’s not really that different.

Wasn’t ID7 throughout the BMW lineup previous to this ? I’m not sure it was G42 specific so I don’t understand what your saying .
The screens are a lot bigger & brighter with higher resolution with new faster processors, the ID7 drivers display for me was dark & the infotainment screen was tiny compared .