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05-28-2022, 01:15 PM | #157 |
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exactly the same. absolutely no interest in Porsche, never had. From dad to myself and the twin, we only like BMW's and if we didn't like then we won't bitch about them, we just move on to something else.
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05-28-2022, 03:10 PM | #158 |
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Wow did this go off topic. Not unexpectedly.
A lot of us got into BMW's a long time ago because they were fun cars. Smaller, lighter, better handling, driver focused, had a feel to them other brands didn't provide. Didn't give a flying F about the logo on it, just that it brought a smile to your face. Costs were high-ish but worth it. Bigger, heavier, more expensive, number technological masterpieces put good numbers on paper and still sell well because of the brand name, but it's not what everyone is looking for. BMW flat out admitted their steering feedback is numb because they wanted it that way. For some, the best driver's BMW for sale right now is the Supra. If you want that stuff, power to ya, consider yourself lucky. But FFS, we should all be complaining about that video. With a Tesla in it. WTF BMW? One of the dumbest things I've ever seen. |
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And then let's start over this conversation. EDIT: After watching this video, I decided to have both. A BMW M4 Competition xDrive Coupe as my daily driver, and a 911 GTS for "fun".
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Well, maybe it's that I have never driven one. I'll avoid it to dispel future regret.
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Just take more time and save more dollars for a reasonable downpayment and you could eventually get into a new M2. Start small by saving a little extra dollars each month. |
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05-28-2022, 06:03 PM | #166 | |
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However, boring and miserable SUVs like my wife drives for our daughter are always plentiful. |
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05-28-2022, 06:03 PM | #167 | ||
Luxury at the redline :)
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If BMW increase the price of the car, while still saving money on import cost, they are being some greedy fvcks. So, I don't have any mercy for them if they want to overcharge for the vehicle and cut corners. Maybe I'll change my mind when I see everything in totality but if the headlines now is 65k+ for an M2, that's currently a hard pass for me. |
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The MY23 M2, even at base, will likely come standard with many of those options. I think we’re lucky if the price starts at 65k, Im expecting it to start closer to 70k and be capable of reaching 80k+ fully optioned. Hope Im wrong. |
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It's called capitalism. Price is set by supply and demand. Haynes and his invisible hand…
As long as there are people who pay what they want charge, cars will sell. Price has nothing to do with cost.
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This is shaping up to be the e36 to the F87's e30.
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All joking aside, MY22 m340 base price is 55k, and MY22 m3 base price is 70k. I know it’s not apples to apples but some of the features that are standard on m3 (and not on m340) are the merino leather (vs free sensatec or upgraded vernasca), Go Love cockpit, convenience and premium packages. If they stick with this formula we’re looking at an MY23 m2 base price of at least 65k. Im picturing something like “starting at 64,100” anyway. These numbers are all before factoring in destination charges. |
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