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Can't forget the XM launched a year ago and G90 M5 in another month or so. I drove the XM...no thanks, at any price. And the M5 will have the same drive train but "only" ~5300 lbs
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Fair point!
I think you forgot about: Design engineering Engineering design
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04-11-2024, 05:33 AM | #118 |
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ICE for sports cars and EV for everything else. Let’s be real most of you just daily your cars. For that special weekend drive or track day you use your “baby”. EV daily just makes sense.
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So we shall see. Color me skeptical. (I say best that I can tell because I had difficulty finding true numbers. Most articles I saw posted "Electric" vehicles and proceeded to include Hybrid, PHEV, etc. The best I could find was this article, which stated that full BEV sales were at 9.5 million https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...on-2024-01-11/ And this one which said global sales were 75.3 million https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-1990/ ) |
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When I took stats, we were taught how to manipulate data to our viewpoint. You can look at pure BEV companies like Tesla. Their sales either went up or down depending on the stats. Compare Q1 2023 to Q2 2024 and their sales are down. That’s a good stat for the naysayers. But, they are ignoring the other quarters. Just looking at 2023, the first quarter was the worst quarter of the year. BMW breaks down EV sales but not by model. They did say that the i4 was their best selling model (also the most affordable). By model, they group the cars together. It’s impossible to figure out. They sold 376,183 BEVs in 2023 which is 15% of all their sales. Their goal for 2024 is 500,000 cars, only time will tell. |
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Back on the subject of the thread, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Rimac technology used first in M cars, due to lower volume, higher performance and likely better weight.
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Here’s another example of an automaker changing their strategy on EVs. There have been many others making similar decisions because the demand for EVs simply isn’t there.
https://www.motor1.com/news/715792/a...on-cars-2030s/ |
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This is BMW’s strategy.
https://www.fleeteurope.com/en/finan...ication&curl=1 |
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Whatever happens, after owning the R1S I will hold my F82 until a all electric M4 drops.
You are comparing caveman tech to computerized precision when comparing ice to EV.Turbos are 60-70 years old! Unfortunately, chassis development lacks because the technology is too modern. I know BMW will figure it all out.
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