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      11-12-2024, 10:31 PM   #1
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BMW Windshield Wiper 1% concentration

BMW's official windshield wiper fluid for E92 in California lists on the back to use 25% for type A-areas and 1% for non-Type-A-areas. Most counties are nonType-A as the areas with colder counties are Type A.

@1% the back of the bottle lists 2 oz per 160 oz of water.

Are you Californians doing this? That's very low percentage as almost makes me think why not just use plain distilled water as that's super low.
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Not sure if this SDS below is for the concentrate, but that stuff is a joke. 65-75% just ethanol! The other must be blue coloring and possibly just water. LMAO!

https://www.m5board.com/attachments/145487/

I use RainX green (I heard the red can mess up the level sensor).

https://www.rainx.com/product/rain-x...-washer-fluid/
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simple, OE, cheap, no smell, will not clog washer pump filter, etc
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      11-13-2024, 07:44 AM   #4
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Not sure if this SDS below is for the concentrate, but that stuff is a joke. 65-75% just ethanol! The other must be blue coloring and possibly just water. LMAO!

https://www.m5board.com/attachments/145487/

I use RainX green (I heard the red can mess up the level sensor).

https://www.rainx.com/product/rain-x...-washer-fluid/
I'm used the rainx in other vehicles and that stuff is awesome! Good to hear that one works for your e92.
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P/N 83192361205

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That's a simple solution though it looks like that's no longer sold from ecs, fcp, & pelican. Some other vendors claim to have it. That one looks to be a 35% dilution if it's the same recipe as the small concentrate bottle I was mentioning.
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I've read that some products can gunk up the reservoir/pump. I just use a generic super market brand since it probably doesn't have anything else that rain-x might.
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I just use the cheap blue shit from NAPA/Autozone/Advanced. Never have had an issue. Why is this complicated?
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Hah, wow! I had no idea even washer fluid was regulated by CARB:

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/prog...ons/windshield

Anyway, since it's a CARB thing and not a BMW thing, I'd just use whatever's available while avoiding stuff like RainX, as the additives can potentially foul the washer fluid sensor or clog the jets.

I run washer fluid in the methanol injection on my other vehicles. You can check the SDS and verify that it only contains water and methanol. The -35C stuff is typically ~40% methanol.
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I have used these tablets from Amazon for probably a decade.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&th=1

No issues with clogs or failed sensor on any of my cars. The problem is though that last time I ordere them they were $5.33 and now they are literally 3x that price. RIDICULOUS!! luckily I still have half a tube of them in the garage.
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Hah, wow! I had no idea even washer fluid was regulated by CARB:

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/prog...ons/windshield

Anyway, since it's a CARB thing and not a BMW thing, I'd just use whatever's available while avoiding stuff like RainX, as the additives can potentially foul the washer fluid sensor or clog the jets.

I run washer fluid in the methanol injection on my other vehicles. You can check the SDS and verify that it only contains water and methanol. The -35C stuff is typically ~40% methanol.
Interesting site. So bizarre. You can buy the 25% or 1% depending on county but you can buy the concentrated stuff anywhere and it should list how to make 1% or 25% but doesn't say anything what you can use where. Sounds like drive to a "Type A" county pick up your 25% fluid and drive back to your non-Type-A county....sort of like driving out of your dry county for beer so you can have beer on Sundays!
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I always just bought the blue shit at cheapest price I could find.

Unfortunately now the price is ridiculous - like 5 bucks or more a gallon??!

I bought those blue dissolvable tabs - like a hundred for 5 bucks - and also have other concentrates - problem with those is that you need to add methanol/ethanol for freezing conditions - that is more expensive - but you can find that too - and I am now making my own for cost saving. Others probably have better things to do I admit. Perhaps a side effect of my BMW Over-Maintenance Disorder (BOMD)
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Interesting site. So bizarre. You can buy the 25% or 1% depending on county but you can buy the concentrated stuff anywhere and it should list how to make 1% or 25% but doesn't say anything what you can use where. Sounds like drive to a "Type A" county pick up your 25% fluid and drive back to your non-Type-A county....sort of like driving out of your dry county for beer so you can have beer on Sundays!
I'm sure there is a Cali law about transporting 25% WWF over county lines
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My friend from the bay area has a mechanic who always stocks up on the strong stuff when he goes to Nevada LOL. Yes, CA mandates what type of washer fluid you can run.
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I'm sure there is a Cali law about transporting 25% WWF over county lines
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California doesn't like methanol/ethanol being sprayed into the air by millions of people in cities. I stock up in NV/UT when driving. It's fine to buy and transport yourself, sellers just can't sell it to people in CA. I personally prefer it. I often drive a few times a year to freezing climates and have to remember to purge my washer tank and lines before leaving. Last time I did, but not good enough and had water freeze and crack a nozzle.

When I dont have the good stuff, I just use the Nextzett Kristall Klar concentrate. A $12 bottle of concentrate lasts me over a year and I use the washers a LOT. I tried the blue tablets and they work well but they leave a blue residue around the nozzles on one of my cars.
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