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      10-18-2022, 09:38 PM   #67
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I just love the spec sheet and options list available for this vehicle.

I can't think of a single item that it's lacking. Even frivolous fluff like a dedicated in-vehicle 5G connection w/ hotpot and colored heads-up display made the cut.. Good stuff 👍🏻
is that 5g connection worth getting?
If you would need a constant unlimited 5G connection, hotspot uncapped, it's only $20 a month with T-Mobile.

My radar detector needs an active internet connection for Waze/Escort Live crowdsourcing data, plus I use a spare phone to stream music through the USB outlet for best fidelity, so I can see the value in a dedicated 5G connection in the vehicle.

However, if it seems like your phone satisfies your needs and it would just be redundant internet connection, then skip it.

It's a $350 option in the US.

https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/bmw-car-wifi-plan
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      10-19-2022, 12:53 AM   #68
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Everyone needs to realize how less expensive these cars are in the US vs. everywhere else in the world. There are a number of business/financial factors that allow this; we should feel grateful. Pay for the CF roof or not. Most of don't track our cars (no access to a track, no time, expensive, etc.); even for track use, I can't imagine a non-professional driver would notice the difference between a BMW with and without a CF roof. Yes, I've owned BMW Ms with and without the CF roof...I think for most of us its a cosmetic rather than performance enhancement. There is nothing wrong with that of course.
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Everyone needs to realize how less expensive these cars are in the US vs. everywhere else in the world. There are a number of business/financial factors that allow this; we should feel grateful. Pay for the CF roof or not. Most of don't track our cars (no access to a track, no time, expensive, etc.); even for track use, I can't imagine a non-professional driver would notice the difference between a BMW with and without a CF roof. Yes, I've owned BMW Ms with and without the CF roof...I think for most of us its a cosmetic rather than performance enhancement. There is nothing wrong with that of course.
I said this before, it isn't about the weight. It is about having more room for a helmet.

They market these cars as track ready. So, forcing people that do track their M car spend another $2600 to be able to fit comfortably in the car with a helmet on is ridiculous.

Just make slicktop steel roof a no cost option. Then BMW is still making more money out of the situation, by not having to equip a car with a sunroof. This really isn't difficult, they will be producing slicktop M2's for other markets.
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      10-19-2022, 06:06 AM   #70
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Just to get everybody riled up this morning. Screenshots from BMW AG’s website. Germany’s two roof options.

Glasdach, elektrisch mit Schiebe- und Hebefunktion; translated, Glass roof, electric with sliding and lifting function

M Carbondach; translated, M carbon roof
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      10-19-2022, 06:07 AM   #71
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As discussed in Germany the steel roof is standard. A steel roof example shown below.
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      10-19-2022, 07:02 AM   #72
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As discussed in Germany the steel roof is standard. Steel roof G87 shown below
Car looks meaner and sportier with the carbon roof, which I know is beside the point. As mentioned, a steel only roof option should have been standard (for weight savings) in the US, moonroof and Carbon optional. Most who buy this car do so for the performance and aggressive looks and having a fishbowl over your head ruins the aesthetic appearance of car. Yes, it's nice to open up the moonroof on a bright sunny day, but I hardly do it cause of the glare and just roll down my windows. Point is give people options and don't force expensive ones on them just to make more money. That's obviously why the US options are structured so.

Any idea when the car will be on the NA website folks?
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Car looks meaner and sportier with the carbon roof, which I know is beside the point. As mentioned, a steel only roof option should have been standard (for weight savings) in the US, moonroof and Carbon optional. Most who buy this car do so for the performance and aggressive looks and having a fishbowl over your head ruins the aesthetic appearance of car. Yes, it's nice to open up the moonroof on a bright sunny day, but I hardly do it cause of the glare and just roll down my windows. Point is give people options and don't force expensive ones on them just to make more money. That's obviously why the US options are structured so.

Any idea when the car will be on the NA website folks?

The ‘build your own’ will probably not launch until closer to production which begins on week 49.

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I love a moonroof more than the next guy and cant remember the last car I bought without one, except the F87. I dont track my car, I just find it more aesthetically pleasing without one on the M2
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      10-19-2022, 09:06 AM   #75
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I'm trying to warm to the idea of having the moon roof. I had it on my F87, couldn't find a slick top at the time. I used it occasionally since I had it, but would have preferred not to have it. I have one of those panoramic roofs on my Mazda CX50. I like it sometimes.

2600 is a lot to pay just to not have a moon roof.

It's not a "track" thing for me, I just don't need one.
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      10-19-2022, 09:07 AM   #76
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Can we go back to calling it a sunroof please?
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      10-19-2022, 11:19 AM   #77
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Just to get everybody riled up this morning. Screenshots from BMW AG’s website. Germany’s two roof options.

Glasdach, elektrisch mit Schiebe- und Hebefunktion; translated, Glass roof, electric with sliding and lifting function

M Carbondach; translated, M carbon roof

Unreal. There is really no explanation as to why someone can't at least click a no-cost sunroof delete in US(that just puts more money in BMW's pocket..win win).
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      10-19-2022, 11:57 AM   #78
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Unreal. There is really no explanation as to why someone can't at least click a no-cost sunroof delete in US(that just puts more money in BMW's pocket..win win).
The final order forms aren't yet available. The M235I was shipped with a sunroof for free. Many people on the forum did the no cost "sunroof delete". I wouldn't loose all hope yet.
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The final order forms aren't yet available. The M235I was shipped with a sunroof for free. Many people on the forum did the no cost "sunroof delete". I wouldn't loose all hope yet.
Fingers crossed! I'm willing to let them keep their sunroof for free.
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After 3 M cars with CF roofs, I'm ready to let some light in honestly!
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See the screenshot below I was already aware of this and truthfully I did not want to be the one to officially announce the bad news. I sort of still am, but it is via another source.
On the plus side, you might be able to detect some benefit to the handling when swapping between sunroof and CF-roof cars...
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      10-19-2022, 01:24 PM   #82
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I’m torn, as I actually want a moon roof and excited that they are offering this for free. However, I prefer how the car looks with a carbon fiber roof. Perhaps I will get the moonroof and then cover it with gloss black wrap…

They really need to release more pictures of the car with various options.
They just need to put up the configurator already !
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      10-19-2022, 01:32 PM   #83
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Can we go back to calling it a sunroof please?
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BMW BLOG reiterating.
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Figured the CF roof or Sunroof would be free option like on the M3/4. That's lame
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Is not like the sunroom make the car any uglier lol
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I really hope they're hearing our cries and considering a no cost sun roof delete. As noted before, they're already producing slick top cars, how hard is it really to divert some to the USA?
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BMW know most people would option carbon roof anyway, opposite of g80/g82 options sunroof is free
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